Pushing the 2K tow limit

[lambandbert]

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[LSchicago]

You are underthinking it. More than just a radiator upgrade.

 

[Sykotyk]

I helped a friend move about ten miles on entirely flat ground. Between my trailer and all of his stuff in one trip, I know I was over 2000 pounds towing AND over for payload in the truck. Just ran in L, slow acceleration, and very controlled, very slow and judicious braking. No following close, no fast acceleration, etc.

Saw no issues with it. One, they're never set the limits to be the maximum physical limits of the design. Think how the gas tank is 13.8g but really has about 15.6 gallons in it. Better to overdesign and under delivery.

You're not going up notable grades, not flooring it. Slamming on the brakes. Taking turns hard. And not running in absurd, extreme conditions. In the end, I wouldn't worry about it. A couple miles on mostly flat ground driven properly won't be an issue.

My only concern is pulling the boat out of the water. That seems sketchy.

 

[Mox4615]

It is a little more than that as he stated but for that short of a drive I’d personally roll with it if it were me. Only thing that might cause an issue would be the boat will probably need the 7 pin connector and with you having a hybrid Im going to assume it’s not AWD. Pulling it out of the water on that slippery ramp could be dicey. Towing it probably won’t be the issue, it’s getting it out of the water safely.

 

[matmondro]

Personally, I'd roll with it too. Given especially how short of a drive it is. I do second what @Mox4615 said though, getting it out of the water could possibly be dicey if the ramp is slimy.

 

[Maverick123]

... but always below above 2,200 pounds.

Wait I'm confused ... is it below, or is it above?

As long as you drive sensibly you'll be fine. The distance is short, the slope is negligible and when you pull the boat out it'll have less fuel. I'd ask the passengers to wait outside the truck while you pull it up the boat ramp and it shouldn't be a problem.

For those saying you need a 7 pin trailer connector, small boat trailers typically use a 4-pin connector and don't have electric brakes

 

[AlsMaverick]

Not the first, not the last. Tow capacity question for my hybrid …

Like everyone else at MTC, I love my Maverick (hybrid). My truck’s primary function is as a commuter vehicle, so the 50+ MPG I average inching into the office is its bread & butter. Everything else that truck life enables is a bonus.

I’m purchasing a 17’ Whaler. Between the hull, outboard, and trailer - it’s effectively 1,600 pounds. Add fuel (both the truck & boat), passengers (300 pounds), etc., and it will push the total weight just above 2,000 pounds, but always below above 2,200 pounds.

I live less than 10 minutes from the boat launch, and the drive is very modest with slightest of grades (2.15%) for just 1.60 miles. The entire drive, down a safe two lane backroad, is 3 miles to the ramp. And the launch ramp itself is very flat (to the frustration of others).

I can tell I’m overthinking it, but would welcome dialogue from the MTC community. I even spoke to my dealer, who felt the extra push was fine. Apparently, the only difference with the 4K tow package is the radiator. Am I crazy? Am I golden?

You are not pushing it. Your truck is rated to pull 2,000 lbs. Truck passenger and fuel do not count in the tow rating but, do count in GCVWR. You are not pushing that either. You will find that pulling 2000 lbs. or less is a breeze.

 

[lambandbert]

Much appreciated, and lesson learned on GCVWR vs tow capacity.

Recognize FWD could be a problem on the ramp, but it’s thankfully not gravel, and it could have been RWD which would obviously be worse to launch.

 

[Gray Goose]

I’m purchasing a 17’ Whaler. Between the hull, outboard, and trailer - it’s effectively 1,600 pounds. Add fuel (both the truck & boat), passengers (300 pounds), etc., and it will push the total weight just above 2,000 pounds, but always below above 2,200 pounds.

Passengers in the boat while towing?
Put the passengers in the truck and problem solved.
Now if the truck already has 5 passengers and there are more in the boat, then you are most likely exceeding the gross combined weight rating (GCWR). 2K sounds like the least of your worries.

 

[Buggy Man]

Not the first, not the last. Tow capacity question for my hybrid …

Like everyone else at MTC, I love my Maverick (hybrid). My truck’s primary function is as a commuter vehicle, so the 50+ MPG I average inching into the office is its bread & butter. Everything else that truck life enables is a bonus.

I’m purchasing a 17’ Whaler. Between the hull, outboard, and trailer - it’s effectively 1,600 pounds. Add fuel (both the truck & boat), passengers (300 pounds), etc., and it will push the total weight just above 2,000 pounds, but always below above 2,200 pounds.

I live less than 10 minutes from the boat launch, and the drive is very modest with slightest of grades (2.15%) for just 1.60 miles. The entire drive, down a safe two lane backroad, is 3 miles to the ramp. And the launch ramp itself is very flat (to the frustration of others).

I can tell I’m overthinking it, but would welcome dialogue from the MTC community. I even spoke to my dealer, who felt the extra push was fine. Apparently, the only difference with the 4K tow package is the radiator. Am I crazy? Am I golden?

I think the 4k package includes a bigger radiator AND a transmission cooler.

 

[lambandbert]

It is a little more than that as he stated but for that short of a drive I’d personally roll with it if it were me. Only thing that might cause an issue would be the boat will probably need the 7 pin connector and with you having a hybrid Im going to assume it’s not AWD. Pulling it out of the water on that slippery ramp could be dicey. Towing it probably won’t be the issue, it’s getting it out of the water safely.

Learned a little bit more since posting. I'd be towing 1,500 - 1,600 so that problem is eliminated. But I do want to learn more about launching on the boat ramp. Obviously, my hybrid is FWD ... I was hopeful that having the ramp as flat as it is would alleviate some of the burden. It's concrete and clean of algae or other slippery material. Is FWD going to be a dealbreaker? Should I halt the purchase over FWD?

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Wait I'm confused ... is it below, or is it above?

As long as you drive sensibly you'll be fine. The distance is short, the slope is negligible and when you pull the boat out it'll have less fuel. I'd ask the passengers to wait outside the truck while you pull it up the boat ramp and it shouldn't be a problem.

For those saying you need a 7 pin trailer connector, small boat trailers typically use a 4-pin connector and don't have electric brakes

It's always below the 2200 lbs he mentioned above. (Is it always below if you turn your monitor on its side?).

 

[Hot Runr Guy]

Learned a little bit more since posting. I'd be towing 1,500 - 1,600 so that problem is eliminated. But I do want to learn more about launching on the boat ramp. Obviously, my hybrid is FWD ... I was hopeful that having the ramp as flat as it is would alleviate some of the burden. It's concrete and clean of algae or other slippery material. Is FWD going to be a dealbreaker? Should I halt the purchase over FWD?

If the ramp is clean, and not full of moss/algae, you should be fine. I'd hedge my bets and get a V-bridle harness to keep in case you need a little assistance, here's a posting from a long previous thread on the subject.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...hat-to-do-when-stuck.36528/page-8#post-747604

HRG

 

[lambandbert]

If the ramp is clean, and not full of moss/algae, you should be fine. I'd hedge my bets and get a V-bridle harness to keep in case you need a little assistance, here's a posting from a long previous thread on the subject.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...hat-to-do-when-stuck.36528/page-8#post-747604

HRG

Thanks, reviewed the post and would certainly purchase this in case of emergency.

 

[Waterick]

I think the 4k package includes a bigger radiator AND a transmission cooler.

On the EB, not sure it's needed on the hybrid.

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