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[Whitty1]

How do I “prelube” my EcoBoost before start-up?

Aftermarket pre-oiler. It starts the flow of oil before you crank the engine getting oil to important parts.

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[CajunMick]

How do I “prelube” my EcoBoost before start-up?

In its present configuration, can’t. I’ve seen kits that modify oil system with small DC motorized pump that one turns on before startup. And will auto turn on with a timer when engine stop. It runs few minutes to keep oil circulation going to cool down turbo bearings.

I worked in oil n gas biz, doing engine/compressor controls. These are big 1,500 to 3,000 hp machines. Controls designed to first start prelube cycle till a sensor get say 5 psi pressure, then that gives engine a permissive start signal. Engine starts, its oil pump takes over. Imagine design doing this with one push button start switch.

One engine/compressor was unique. Has a turbo. But engine require turbo manifold pressure first before startup. The turbo has air jet assist to spin up, gain positive manifold pressure. A sensor would detect this positive manifold pressure and only then engine can crank to start. And it has prelube and postlube oil system. Also the ignition would switch on followed by fuel valve opening while engine cranking. All this by pushing one button to get this engine rolling, started. All using pneumatic only controls I designed!

 

[CajunMick]

there is another issue you brought up with turbos. I bet most people don't let them cool down before shutting the engine off which is important after you drive them hard. I bought a preoiler about 30 years ago and it seemed to be more trouble than was worth. It is a good idea but I bet few do it. The OEM should put it on at the factory, especially on hybrid engines but they don't want these vehicles to last much past 100k miles

Agree. If turbos, pre and postlube them!

 

[SP1966]

Anyway, you can justify abusing your vehicle and not changing your oil.

You should stick to riding your high horse, nobody is abusing their vehicle by not changing a hybrid's oil after 5k total miles, in which the engine only ran 2500 max.

 

[Whitty1]

You should stick to riding your high horse, nobody is abusing their vehicle by not changing a hybrid's oil after 5k total miles, in which the engine only ran 2500 max.

I bet you ride your tires down to the cords too. I said 5-6k miles. I wouldn't go over 6k. Your hybrid engine is running a lot more than half the time. Any justification you can hang on to be cheap

 

[Whitty1]

Agree. If turbos, pre and postlube them!

Hybrids can benefit from pre-oiling too. Every time that engine stops, the oil goes back down into the oil pan. They are more trouble than they are worth.

 

[d7602002]

I've never owned a hybrid but even if I did, me personally, I would probably still go 5,000 mi or 6 months. I think 3,000 miles or 3 months is too much, but I think 10,000 miles or any year is too long. So I'm more the middle ground 5,000 mi or 6 months.

 

[Cherokee]

How do I “prelube” my EcoBoost before start-up?

Not needed If you run synthetics, They are so slick and leave a film of lube on all bearing surfaces for long periods of time.

I find It odd that all the engines, turbo and not over all the decades I've had them
did not have any problems. Even before synthetic oil.
If this was not true the stop start system and the Intermittent part time use of the often
below normal operational temp engine in the hybrid would wear out really fast.

No one seems to know how these newer oils function.
I do leave my Maverick at Idle for about one minute when I park it especially If I just got off the highway or Interstate, just to be safe.

NOW everyone is going to tell me I am wrong. Does anybody out there research any of this anymore ?

 

[todd92]

Makuloco is a service hawking troll.

 

[Bob The Builder]

Yes they certainly do. In fact I believe that’s why they went from 0w20 back to 5w30. Ford had everything going with 5w20 then back to 5w30. I believe it was to compensate for the fuel dilution from di.
Again why oil selection is so important. Many oils are much better at protecting with higher fuel dilution than other. Industry standard is around 5 percent most oils can handle. But some will still pass wear tests at up to 15 percent.

Just so I am understanding you correctly, you're saying Ford has changed the oil weight on the 2.0 from 0W20 to 5W30? Somehow I have missed this. Thank you.

 

[The Real Maverick]

Can someone explain why that imagine is bad? The pickup tube looks fine and isn't clogged. Without information on compression, etc we have no idea what the condition of the motor is like from an operation standpoint.

Oh, you want science? Not just conjecture?!!

 

[Snox801]

3000 mile oil changes is not throwing it away when you have a turbo that cooks the oil. 5-6k miles is good all others. Hybrid or not. It is cheap insurance if you want it to last. But i guess you plan on dumping it on some dumb smuck before the engine is toast. 10000 is way too many miles unless they are all highway miles.
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I beg to differ. Have you done an oil analysis? If not you may be surprised. As most here know I drive a lot. I have 50k on my maverick since March. So I get to see what long term does.
I regularly change my oil when it get down to about 10-15 percent. Send it in and I always have gotten the all clear. That’s measured data.
on top of that I have had multiple ecoboost engines last well over 350k.
That real life longevity seems to back up what black stone says. They know oil and make recommendations based on what’s left in the oil. Not you Mr feelings.
so if you use cheap oil they will give you recommendations for changes. I’ve had them many time tell me to run longer than my oil monitor says on amsoil.

 

[Snox801]

How do I “prelube” my EcoBoost before start-up?

Hold the gas all the way down and press brake firmly. It cuts the fuel and ignition. Engine will crank but no fire. You can watch oil pressure spike to normal. I did it every oil change.

 

[CajunMick]

there is another issue you brought up with turbos. I bet most people don't let them cool down before shutting the engine off which is important after you drive them hard. I bought a preoiler about 30 years ago and it seemed to be more trouble than was worth. It is a good idea but I bet few do it. The OEM should put it on at the factory, especially on hybrid engines but they don't want these vehicles to last much past 100k miles

It’s what I do.
Try teach wife about let her Escape run few minutes at startup, and to let cool down after long drive, especially in hot climes.
Had oil temp on my F250 diesel. .Could see temperatures, both engine and tranny start cool down when driving slower after a highway run at speed or towing the RV.

 

[Snox801]

Just so I am understanding you correctly, you're saying Ford has changed the oil weight on the 2.0 from 0W20 to 5W30? Somehow I have missed this. Thank you.

No ford was using 0w20 in about everything even the first batch of di engines. I believe it was the first set of ecoboost 3.5 but memory fades me. But I remember having a ford of one year and the very next year it requiring 5w30 instead of 5w20. Zero changes. At that time it was all stated that it was because of fuel dilution.
So not our 2.0 but it’s for di engines in general

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