Manual trans option?

[MaverickDragon]

Would not be interested in any way. Never driven one, other than in a parking lot, don't see any need to drive a vehicle with tech like it's 1927. If I wanted that, I'd get a Ford model A and drive that.

I've had lots of manuals in my past, and although I prefer automatics these days, I'd make an exception if the vehicle above was available.

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[Tbone289]

I am unfamiliar with what other applications the 8F35 is placed in, but, I wonder if that comes down to being underspec'd? The 35 relates to torque class, so drawing from my own experience working at the transmission plant in Sharonville, OH, the Transit, Ranger, and low-end F-150 use the 10R80, Super Duty and diesel applications move up to the 10R140.

The hybrid started as HF45, moving up to HF55, while the 2.5 develops less peak HP. I wonder if they had used an 8F55, if there would be as many issues...

That is likely part of it, and setting a 150K fluid maintenance interval combined with engine bay heat from the turbo is likely another, and the inability to change the internal filter. The Ecoboost Maverick produces more torque than the 8F35 is rated for, and likewise is tuned to keep torque in check at take-off from stops and between shifts.

 

[MaverickDragon]

Having a manual transmission would limit one's ability to text and drive making such feature not marketable.

If that were true, requiring manual transmissions could save thousands of lives per year...

 

[EffNo50]

There's not enough room under the driver's side dash for an additional pedal. It's barely big enough, as is, for those of us with size 12 shoes with just the accelerator and brake pedals. Adding a third pedal would make them all the size of tablespoons.

Remove or narrow the dead pedal, then there is room for the clutch pedal.

Manual transmissions are more fun to drive and used to be more fuel efficient. There would be huge loss of efficiency in the Hybrid since the MT would not keep the engine in the more efficient or most power RPM like the eCVT does. On a turbo you lose some boost when you let up to manually shift with a clutch. In an automatic you just hold the accelerator pedal down and the transmission shifts from one gear to the next.

 

[Tbone289]

There is no reason they couldn't add a manual transmission to the Hybrid, Honda did it in the past with the CR-Z, Civic Hybrid & first generation Insight. I agree that they wouldn't bother to do so, but to say it can't be done is incorrect.

I agree that it's possible, however, I can't personally think of a single good reason to have a manual over an eCVT.

 

[MaverickDragon]

I agree that it's possible, however, I can't personally think of a single good reason to have a manual over an eCVT.

OTOH, there are a LOT of excellent reasons why it would be a bad idea for any hybrid, which is the only powertrain where the eCVT can be used...

 

[TheRef]

Yes, I would love a Maverick with a manual. Just more like driving the vehicle when your changing gears. But Ford will not do it. A new Subaru or Toyota small truck may come to America one day. That's all they sell in Europe. So just keep my 2007 Mustang GT with 5 speed for real driving!!

 

[ricwan]

Just curious.
If Ford offered a manual transmission for the Mav, would you want it and why?

I would want it. however wouldn't buy it. traffic is consistently too congested to make it worth it. also with few exceptions, manuals are 'notchy' and just don't shift well (my FL5 Type R the exception).

 

[grandpopa'sMPGs]

No. No body likes to have to shift on the interstate so there is usually no Highway gear and the vehicle guzzles gas.

 

[babytruk]

There is no reason they couldn't add a manual transmission to the Hybrid, Honda did it in the past with the CR-Z, Civic Hybrid & first generation Insight. I agree that they wouldn't bother to do so, but to say it can't be done is incorrect.

I looked at the manual CR-Z in 2013 and thought it was interesting. But the lack of any power and only 3 MPG better than the large Accord, I got the Accord 4cyl for the same price. CR-Z had a dash that showed how cool a dash full of buttons could be.

 

[ramram00]

Just curious.
If Ford offered a manual transmission for the Mav, would you want it and why?

Since I really want the hybrid (which I bought, which I love), no, can't use a manual. I miss shifting, but at least I can get my jollies riding my motorcycle.

 

[RideSolo]

Not in the least. I've owned many manuals over the years and always liked driving them. BUT I'm over 70 now and though I wouldn't have a problem w/ one at this point in my life I just don't want to mess w/ it.

Oh yeah... if I am feeling "shifty" I always have the old airhead.

 

[Snowbird]

Oh yeah... if I am feeling "shifty" I always have the old airhead.

Nice! I used to have an R65LS in silver.

Got rid of it before I hurt myself going fast and frisky on the App Gap, Rt 17 here in Vermont!

 

[Ranko Kohime]

...likewise is tuned to keep torque in check ... between shifts.

Well, that is actually what should be done. A common addition to motorcycles that are drag-raced, is a device that cuts spark for about 30ms during a shift. You can go faster if the torque converter is locked at high RPM, but shifting while locked is jarring. Detorque the engine, shift as it's falling and the driveline is essentially free-spinning, then full power again once the next gear is locked in. Much faster than dropping the TC and re-locking.

 

[Ranko Kohime]

There is no reason they couldn't add a manual transmission to the Hybrid, Honda did it in the past with the CR-Z, Civic Hybrid & first generation Insight. I agree that they wouldn't bother to do so, but to say it can't be done is incorrect.

Those were a very weird design, that was basically still a standard powertrain with electric assist, which differs significantly from what Ford and Toyota use.

In the design we have, the hybrid *IS* the transmission.

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