Manual trans option?

[MetalsGeek]

Don't think so. I put 300K miles on a 1987 Mustang GT with the Borg Warner T5OD, and I've had my lifetime fill of clutch chatter. Creeping along in heavy stop-&-go freeway traffic was a real pain, especially on slight uphill grades. I do miss the fun sometimes, and small things like being able to come to a butter-smooth stop with zero jerk at the end. Today, I find heavy traffic a joy because my hybrid gets well over 50 MPG and the "L" mode provides 1-pedal speed control.

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[BillHanna]

I've always liked manual transmissions, but don't mind the convenience of an automatic. My Corvette is manual. I used to drive tractor-trailers which were manual, and never minded shifting -- I guess it was because it was an acquired skill. Now even those are automatics!
I don't mind my Maverick being automatic, even getting used to the round shifter. . .

 

[MaverickDragon]

I've always liked manual transmissions, but don't mind the convenience of an automatic. My Corvette is manual. I used to drive tractor-trailers which were manual, and never minded shifting -- I guess it was because it was an acquired skill. Now even those are automatics!
I don't mind my Maverick being automatic, even getting used to the round shifter. . .

Nearly all of my vehicles were manuals until the end of the last millennium.
Except for diesel powered water trucks I drove until 20 years ago, all my vehicles have been automatics except for my motorcycles.

Manuals have their benefits, but automatics are so much less work that I wouldn't even consider one. Any allure a manual has is gone with a bout of stop and go traffic.

With the Mav, when I did my first test drive, the rotating shifter seemed downright weird..

After getting muscle memory from using the "rotator", it now seems totally natural.
At this point I actually prefer it to the other vehicles' shifters because there is nothing sticking up in the way and to me it gives the console area a cleaner appearance.

 

[Busa789]

Well, that is actually what should be done. A common addition to motorcycles that are drag-raced, is a device that cuts spark for about 30ms during a shift. You can go faster if the torque converter is locked at high RPM, but shifting while locked is jarring. Detorque the engine, shift as it's falling and the driveline is essentially free-spinning, then full power again once the next gear is locked in. Much faster than dropping the TC and re-locking.

My bike shifts with no kill at all and you will not find a smoother shift on any automatic transmission.

 

[Mervin the Maverick]

Just curious.
If Ford offered a manual transmission for the Mav, would you want it and why?

Don’t be silly. It will never happen.

 

[Timothyd]

Don't think so. I put 300K miles on a 1987 Mustang GT with the Borg Warner T5OD, and I've had my lifetime fill of clutch chatter. Creeping along in heavy stop-&-go freeway traffic was a real pain, especially on slight uphill grades. I do miss the fun sometimes, and small things like being able to come to a butter-smooth stop with zero jerk at the end. Today, I find heavy traffic a joy because my hybrid gets well over 50 MPG and the "L" mode provides 1-pedal speed control.

I'm with you. Most of my vehicles over the last 50 years have been manual but the only time they chattered was when the clutch was going south. Now I still have a couple of bikes and a car with a stick that I won't give up but I have to say that hybrid Maverick is incredibly smooth. I put it in "eco" mode (pita that it isn't default) for the 1-pedal control. I only manage just under 50mpg in suburban driving. Which I'm loving.

 

[Ranko Kohime]

My bike shifts with no kill at all and you will not find a smoother shift on any automatic transmission.

Are you rolling off the throttle though? Because what I described is for use in drag racing, to shave a few hundredths off of one’s time, while keeping the throttle pinned.

 

[BillHanna]

Are you rolling off the throttle though?

Years ago, on my Norton, I'd shift by putting pressure on the shift lever, then hit the kill switch just a touch, and it would shift quickly and smoothly.

 

[Busa789]

Are you rolling off the throttle though? Because what I described is for use in drag racing, to shave a few hundredths off of one’s time, while keeping the throttle pinned.

Nope. Throttle is pinned the whole time and no power reduction or kill needed. It's just a mod to the transmission that allows for it. It's super smooth. In this one, the 4-5 gear change has kill but the others don't.

 

[Busa789]

Years ago, on my Norton, I'd shift by putting pressure on the shift lever, then hit the kill switch just a touch, and it would shift quickly and smoothly.

If equipped, you can do the same thing by just letting the engine hit the rev limiter.

 

[tiktokbrainrot]

A manual in a small light coup like a Miata or a S2000, driving down a windy river road? YES PLEASE!

In a nearly 2 ton daily driver with city traffic? Absolutely not.

 

[Timothyd]

A manual in a small light coup like a Miata or a S2000, driving down a windy river road? YES PLEASE!

In a nearly 2 ton daily driver with city traffic? Absolutely not.

My '91 Miata or my bikes are a gas to drive.

 

[ZeroDay]

I mean I wouldn't have bought it without the Hybrid but my general hierarchy is E-CVT>Manual>DCT>Slushbox auto.

 

[Ranko Kohime]

I mean I wouldn't have bought it without the Hybrid but my general hierarchy is E-CVT>Manual>DCT>Slushbox auto.

That mirrors my position exactly, except that I don’t know what DCT is, or if I did, I’ve forgotten

 

[MaverickDragon]

That mirrors my position exactly, except that I don’t know what DCT is, or if I did, I’ve forgotten

DCT = Dual Clutch Transmission
According to the local bot "authority":
A dual-clutch transmission (DCT) in a car is an automatic gearbox that uses two separate clutches to manage odd and even gears, allowing faster, smoother shifts without interrupting power to the wheels. It combines the efficiency of a manual transmission with the convenience of an automatic.

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