Increasing Tremor Towing Capacity?

[jmatchco]

Actually the TC RDU was developed for the high performance Focus RS while the SC RDU was slated for LO-PO everyday AWD. Do you think that a RDU designed to handle 350HP is some how weaker?

Don't know - ask Ford. Why are the tremor specs lower??

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[fossil]

Don't know - ask Ford. Why are the tremor specs lower??

Softer springs and smaller radiator/fan, no need to dig deeper. If anything the Tremor drive line has superior parts including upgraded axels.
My Raptor was rated at 7K while the regular F150s were 10K at the time, weak drive line or softer springs? It had the 6.2L engine, F250 brakes with stronger rear axles and front CV joints and still was rated lower for towing.

 

[billbillw]

Brake Controllers are very easy to add. If you don't have the knowledge or confidence to do it yourself, any camper or trailer dealer would be able to add one for you.

Would that camper dealer's trailer brake controller integrate with the Maverick's Anti-sway or stability control? I'm curious really. Maybe that doesn't matter. Either way, I'd prefer to have the factory controller, especially if I was going to exceed the rated capacity.

 

[TJ2023]

Would that camper dealer's trailer brake controller integrate with the Maverick's Anti-sway or stability control? I'm curious really. Maybe that doesn't matter. Either way, I'd prefer to have the factory controller, especially if I was going to exceed the rated capacity.

I wouldn't think so. I don't believe it would matter, but I'm defiantly not an expert on them. I used to work at a very large RV dealer and they were installing them all day everyday. Basically they are just installing a 7 pin connector, running and splicing in all the wiring, and installing the brake controller in the cab. I watched them do hundreds of them, but never did any myself. It really doesn't seem all that complicated. Newer models of aftermarket brake controllers might possibly integrate with the stability control, but I don't think that would matter.

 

[fossil]

Just off the phone with my stepson, a Ford service manager.

Maverick 2.0L has 3 radiators, 8.7qt Tremor, 9qt standard, 9.5qt 4K (full fill in vehicle)
so the Tremor holds aprox 12oz less coolant than the 4K, a beer can. Exactly the same as the BS Badlands.

Hunters Edge caught me on poor math skills, 25.6oz less than the 4K

 

[Hunters Edge]

Just off the phone with my stepson, a Ford service manager.

Maverick 2.0L has 3 radiators, 8.7qt Tremor, 9qt standard, 9.5qt 4K (full fill in vehicle)
so the Tremor holds aprox 12oz less coolant than the 4K, a beer can. Exactly the same as the BS Badlands.

Check your math .8 of a quart is equivalent to 25.6 ounces. Also it may equate to a larger surface area for cooling purposes rather than just the amount of fluid.

Not to mention it also doesn't include the upgraded radiator fan.

Not saying these are or not the reason for the limited tow capability but the 4k package has both.

 

[fossil]

Check your math .8 of a quart is equivalent to 25.6 ounces. Also it may equate to a larger surface area for cooling purposes rather than just the amount of fluid.

Not to mention it also doesn't include the upgraded radiator fan.

Not saying these are or not the reason for the limited tow capability but the 4k package has both.

absolutely correct, my math sucked. the fan thing, trans cooling etc has been discussed ad nauseam so I didn't think it needed repeating. As far as I know the capacities are new info

in the interest of accuracy I'll correct the other post to reflect the facts

 

[Nw_adventure]

That 4K radiator fan blasts off like stage 5 Apollo V if needed - Happened once while we were at 8k feet in 80+ temps off roading. When it kicks in some serious air is moved - FYI

 

[The Real Maverick]

Would that camper dealer's trailer brake controller integrate with the Maverick's Anti-sway or stability control? I'm curious really. Maybe that doesn't matter. Either way, I'd prefer to have the factory controller, especially if I was going to exceed the rated capacity.

Many aftermarket brake controllers are MUCH BETTER and come with more features than the stock Ford one.

I added a very nice one to my Hybrid.

How they wire up is universal.

A trailer brake controller (any one) is independent of the Maverick's stability control and anti-sway control, which controls the truck. The brake controller only controls the trailer.

 

[Bwicka]

If you want towing capacity, the Maverick is not vehicle to use. I usually tow using the F150 which is a dinosaur of a vehicle and is rated for somewhere around 7k towing.
I did tow with the Tremor this week. Utility trailer with 70 bags of mulch - about 5 cubic yards -well above the 2k rating,I figured somewhere around 3k lbs between trailer and load.
I only traveled about 5 miles with the load, and I will say that the Maverick is NOT the vehicle to tow with. Even with the trailer empty the Mav gets " squirrely " and in my opinion this is entirely due to the unibody construction, feels like an awfull lot of flex going on, especially in the back half where the trailer and Mav are wrestling with each other.

IMHO, if you want to tow regularly, and especially a camper which has a GIANT side and front profile, then you want a heavier body on frame truck, not a unibody SUV with the back half of the roof missing. In my mind I'm convinced any unibody vehicle would have this limitation which is why most manufacturers won't even publish tow ratings for them.

Just my experience and thoughts, interpret them as you will.

I don’t think unibody is underlying factor for large towing , grand cherokees are rated at 7200 , Mercedes gl550 is 7500#, and many others in similar range . Biggest factors are always mass( weight of towing vehicle ) the stopping power ( brakes and tire contact)of the COMBINED units and wheelbase for sway control .
Unibodies rock , but the lighter weight cuts into engineered safe towing capacity .Tremors have a softer spring rate in rear . Change springs, add airbags or go f150 ( rent if only once or twice)if you have to doubt it much or tow that often .

 

[billbillw]

A trailer brake controller (any one) is independent of the Maverick's stability control and anti-sway control, which controls the truck. The brake controller only controls the trailer.

Are you sure about that? I've read about how the trailer brakes are applied automatically if the vehicle detects sway from high winds. Maybe those are not accurate accounts.

I haven't towed much of anything yet with my Mav, so I am just curious about these factors.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Many thanks for the replies. V helpful.

Fortunately I live in British Columbia with a state owned insurance company and "no fault" insurance.

Although there are a fair few campers under 2,000 lbs, there are for more under 2,500 lbs. But since I only have a 4 pin connector, I can't get a camper with electric brakes, which sort of restricts weight to 2,500 lbs or less.

If you want brakes on trailer with 4 pin setup check out curt for an inline brake controller plugs into a seven pin (you may have to add that or check if 4 pin adapter is used. Can set up controller through cell phone app. Just check with curt and see. The controller plugs in between trailer and truck.

 

[Hunters Edge]

Are you sure about that? I've read about how the trailer brakes are applied automatically if the vehicle detects sway from high winds. Maybe those are not accurate accounts.

I haven't towed much of anything yet with my Mav, so I am just curious about these factors.

https://www.ford.com/support/vehicl...eo-library/more-vehicle-topics/6270639313001/

I've never heard that before but most if not all brake controllers have a manual function that will operate the trailer brakes without using the vehicle's brakes. This is used if the operator one can act quick enough and two thinks first. If trailer sway has or left unchecked putting vehicle brakes on can and has caused flipping, jack knifing, coming unlatched etc. Best is to slow down by using the manual option or function with the brake controller. Sway can be started with side wind but usually the weight is not distributed correctly in a trailer. I have had many trailers over the years but I have had one utility trailer that will easily start swaying. The utility trailer has a lift or drive on function. Thus puts the wheels to far forward to allow the back end of the trailer to drop allowing to drive, mowers, ATV, etc on or off. The bad is the majority of the weigh has to be front loaded and more tongue weight. If hauling wood, dirt, gravel etc usually the back 2 ft is empty or a lot less height than the rest of the load to push the weight load in front and on the axles and not behind the axles.

They do make weight distribution hitches that decreased tongue weight. More importantly they also sell anti-sway bars to minimize sway on a trailer. Hope this information is helpful.

The only automatic is setting up how much braking to the trailer brakes when using the vehicle's brakes, that I'm aware of.

 

[The Real Maverick]

Are you sure about that? I've read about how the trailer brakes are applied automatically if the vehicle detects sway from high winds. Maybe those are not accurate accounts.

I haven't towed much of anything yet with my Mav, so I am just curious about these factors.

The truck brakes can apply automatically, even left and right independently in some cases. But not the trailer that I am aware of.

 

[Joe Strummer]

I have downloaded a 2022 Maverick brochure from Ford which says its maximum towing capacities assume two passengers weighing 150 lbs each. I belive (but it is not stated) that the max capcity also assumes a full tank of gas.

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