Escape discontinued, LAP to be retooled for EV truck.

[bbhaag]

Yes, but I'm in and out of said gas station in less than 10 minutes, usually about 7mins. with a full tank of gas and a 400+ mi range.
What will 7 minutes get you on a charge?
I only brought up a restaurant because that's the excuse that the EV Fanboys always use while they're vehicles charging.

No crap an EV doesn't fill up as fast or have as good of range. It was your absurd sentence about filling up at 2AM and restaurants being closed that made me LOL.

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[24hrsun]

Yes, but I'm in and out of said gas station in less than 10 minutes, usually about 7:00 with a full tank of gas and a 400+ mi range.
What will 7 minutes get you on a charge?
I only brought up a restaurant because that's the excuse that the EV Fanboys always use while they're vehicles charging.
The only plugin's I owned were two Chevy volt's. The first one I drove from San Jose to Las Vegas never plugging it in once. As my daily driver I plugged it in every night.
I once went about 4 months without using gas. Except when engine went into maintenance mode and started all by itself during that time.

Some of the fanboys are saying the quiet part out loud now. Charger hopping SUCKS! Range sucks! Time taken to charge sucks! Once we start talking 300-400 miles of range added in that 10 minutes then they have my attention.

I have been a long time EV driver. As long as I have lots of time to smell the roses the charger hops are like a mini adventure. But when you have places to go, things to do, and don't have the time to waste it becomes PAINFUL. I no longer drive an EV and I am waiting for the tech to get to the place that an EV can be used as easily as any gasoline or diesel vehicle and have just as many places to refuel.

 

[Daveinva]

I'm very happy with my Mav hybrid, but I have to say I would have been even happier with a PHEV option, or even just a battery with an actual small charge versus being just a capacitor for the ICE engine. My commute is only 5 miles each way, even a 20-30 mile charge would mean I only need the gas engine for errands and weekends.

Alas, alas!

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Some of the fanboys are saying the quiet part out loud now. Charger hopping SUCKS! Range sucks! Time taken to charge sucks! Once we start talking 300-400 miles of range added in that 10 minutes then they have my attention.

I have been a long time EV driver. As long as I have lots of time to smell the roses the charger hops are like a mini adventure. But when you have places to go, things to do, and don't have the time to waste it becomes PAINFUL. I no longer drive an EV and I am waiting for the tech to get to the place that an EV can be used as easily as any gasoline or diesel vehicle and have just as many places to refuel.

Exactly what I have been saying.

I'm very happy with my Mav hybrid, but I have to say I would have been even happier with a PHEV option, or even just a battery with an actual small charge versus being just a capacitor for the ICE engine. My commute is only 5 miles each way, even a 20-30 mile charge would mean I only need the gas engine for errands and weekends.

Alas, alas!

I loved the drive drive train of my Gen 2 Volt with 42-46 miles battery only. 40-45 mpg on the ice and Gen 2 didn't require premium fuel.
Sadly, It was a pain for me to get in and out of and I wanted a work bed.

 

[dochawk]

and I found out that basically the ST Line was made to use up as many left over parts as possible on the last year of the Fiesta.

So the ST stands for "still there" ?



Would that be followed by PT (for 'please take") and BSWCMAM ("buy so we can make another model") ?

 

[Kenv24]

It could be $20,000. I'd have zero interest in a EV.
Unless The battery can be charged from 25% to 100% in less than 10 minutes ending with a range of 400 to 500 MI. (No supercharger involved) charge cost comparable to gas prices.
If the above marks can be met. $30k-40k would be a decent price.
Now you have my interest.
For me, an EV has to be as convenient, as what I already own. Otherwise what's the point?

Personal observations
You always hear from the EV Fanboys saying, 'When your EV is charging just have breakfast, lunch, dinner. Folks don't travel always during business hours. It can be 2:00 AM and you need a charge. Charging stations, like gas stations maybe open, but there may not be a restaurant to eat so you're sitting there for an hour or so waiting for your damn charge.
I call those BS distraction stories.
I can fill my gas tank 100% in 10 minutes.
I expect the same from an EV

But Glen....wouldn't you be the perfect candidate for an EV Mav? I mean, if you still have the Superduty. That's the boat I'm in..I would definetly think about about a plug in even if it just got 300 on a full charge. I've got the F250 for EVERYTHING else. Pulling the boat, UTV trailer, longer road trips/Vacay's, bigger load of "whatever" in the bed. Moving my kids and friends. The entire rest of my driving would be with that little EV bad boy. To and from work every day.....50 mile round trip...I think it would work. And I NEVER EVER thought I would be interested in a plug in electric anything.

 

[Kenv24]

I see where in your situation an EV would work. In mine it would work 95% of the time. I don;t own a RV or boat or trailer. The Maverick is a daily driver but I don't want to own 2 trucks. The long trips is where it would be less convenient. However on a recent trip to the NC coast I noticed many of the truck stops have installed multiple chargers. 1 we stopped at for a stretch the legs break and to get snacks had quick chargers and slower chargers. I heard a man with a Tesla say "no way" when he looked at the cost for the quick charge. The sign said minimum $40 per charge. Not sure how much charge that included but he moved to the slow charger. If the support infrastructure improves I would consider an EV. But I would need fake engine noise piped in so I know it's running .

Yes!! That would be cool if we had three or four different engine sounds to pick from like the drive modes. Something like ”Silent”… “Country Drive”….”Mustang GT” and “NASCAR.”

 

[Cougar70]

Yes!! That would be cool if we had three or four different engine sounds to pick from like the drive modes. Something like ”Silent”… “Country Drive”….”Mustang GT” and “NASCAR.”

Is this what you want??
Exhaust Sound Generator for Tesla Model S, 3, X, Y 2015-2023

 

[Cougar70]

Brilliant! But I notice it is discontinued. Wonder if they had quality issues or lack of sales at $1300?

Thee are multiple companies selling these products.
THOR EV electronic exhaust system for electric vehicles

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

But Glen....wouldn't you be the perfect candidate for an EV Mav? I mean, if you still have the Superduty. That's the boat I'm in..I would definetly think about about a plug in even if it just got 300 on a full charge. I've got the F250 for EVERYTHING else. Pulling the boat, UTV trailer, longer road trips/Vacay's, bigger load of "whatever" in the bed. Moving my kids and friends. The entire rest of my driving would be with that little EV bad boy. To and from work every day.....50 mile round trip...I think it would work. And I NEVER EVER thought I would be interested in a plug in electric anything.

No it wouldn't.
For 4th of July weekend we went up Lamollie to Canyon in Northern Nevada. Between Utah, Idaho and Nevada where we're driving we may not be within a hundred miles of a charger. I don't want to have to worry about it.
Range anxiety would have totally ruined the trip. When you see a sign out here that says next Services 71 MI but it doesn't contain a charging station you're pretty much screwed.
When I'm at home I don't want to buy gas. When I'm on the road I don't want to be Tethered to a charger. I don't want to have to stay within 100 miles of a charger.
A plug-in Maverick for the win.

A EV "truck" with a 150 mile range. Is a joke out here.
I'll repeat this again. No one that I know of with electric vehicle, runs their battery down to zero. Even 350 Mi range is a freaking pipe dream.
Now you'll have the EV Fanboys come back and say well you don't run your gas truck down to zero. My answer is. No, I don't.
I've got the options that EV owners don't have. Namely extra gas can in the bed and I can do that with a plugin too.
You can not do that with EV.

The 350 is mostly getting our families RV's off the mountain in Utah.
This is a Nevada rest area if you aren't driving on an interstate highway. ( you can pretty much add New Mexico, Arizona, Utah Wyoming, Idaho )

 

[24hrsun]

No it wouldn't.
Range anxiety would have totally ruined the trip. When you see a sign out here that says next Services 71 MI but it doesn't contain a charging station you're pretty much screwed.
For 4th of July weekend we went up Lamollie to Canyon in Northern Nevada. Between Utah, Idaho and Nevada where we're driving we may not be within a hundred miles of a charger. I don't want to have to worry about it.
When I'm at home I don't want to buy gas. When I'm on the road I don't want to be Tethered to a charger.
A plug-in Maverick for the win.


I'll repeat this again. No one that I know of with electric vehicle, runs their battery down to zero. Even 350 Mi range is a freaking pipe dream.
Now you'll have the EV Fanboys come back and say well you don't run your gas truck down to zero. My answer is. No, I don't have to, because I've got the option to carry a 5 or my 10 gallon atv gas can in the bed. I can do that with a plug-in but not an EV.

The 350 is mostly getting our families RV's off the mountain in Utah.

This is spot on. EV drivers who know how to take care of their battery(that is few and far between) know not to drain down to the bottom of the pack and not to 100% charge. The meat of the battery is between 80-20%. That is the real range you have to work with, basically 60% of the battery. The smaller the depth of discharge the better. That is the real workable range. And as you know if it is windy, cold, rainy, you drive at high speeds and that range is truncated. Whatever range they quote for the car it is no where near that in usable range.

EVs are great local commuter and light regional travel. You must have home charging or an EV is a non-starter.

 

[1929]

Now that the Escape has run it's course at the LAP, Ford has announced production of a new EV platform mid-size pickup to be built there. The frame is a one piece aluminum casting.

I wonder if this new truck is similar to the Maverick? Shared parts with the Maverick? It will be available in '27 and use the SK Blue oval batteries comprised of a Lithium Iron Phosphate chemistry.

Price per unit is projected at $30k. I see the windshield is swept back further than the Maverick for aerodynamics. That's all I've seen though.

I don't expect a Maverick EV or PIH will come to fruition. What are your thoughts?

Can I order this EV truck today? What colors? Where is the order guide? What is the warranty on battery? Dimensions?

 

[Probity]

I've found myself going back and forth about replacing my 2022 Maverick (sold earlier this year) with another Maverick or grabbing one of the 2025 (or last model year 2026 but likely being made only until year end) Escape's.

Did you buy one and if so what?

It appears one can get a ST-Line Select Hybrid w/AWD and things like adaptive cruise in the 30-32K area and a fully decked out ST-Line Select Hybrid w/AWD and a panoramic moon roof and tech package #2 in the 35-36K area. Here's an example:
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One of the things that bugs me is that adaptive cruise is only available on Lariat (for Maverick). I had a 2022 Maverick Lariat Lux w/CP 360 and that was one of the features I really liked (and miss).

I'm with you. Sorry to see the Escape go, owned/drove a couple over the years, a solid 'B' performer in my experience. I'm a cheapskate, looking to help my daughter in Socal with a new vehicle, a Mav XL hybrid is a better 'lifestyle' vehicle for her but pricewise a '25 hybrid Escape is hard to ignore (more standard features Escape vs XL Mav, similar mpg's).

I've even looked at '25 low mileage (FCTP) PHEV Escapes for her (gettable in the $28k range from some TX dealers) but as she's an apt. dweller in LA area no practical way for her to take advantage of the plug-in feature.

Low miles '25 Escape hybrids are gettable in the $25k range within 500 miles of me, whereas a '25 XL Mav hybrid is generally north of $27k.

 

[Kenv24]

No it wouldn't.
For 4th of July weekend we went up Lamollie to Canyon in Northern Nevada. Between Utah, Idaho and Nevada where we're driving we may not be within a hundred miles of a charger. I don't want to have to worry about it.
Range anxiety would have totally ruined the trip. When you see a sign out here that says next Services 71 MI but it doesn't contain a charging station you're pretty much screwed.
When I'm at home I don't want to buy gas. When I'm on the road I don't want to be Tethered to a charger. I don't want to have to stay within 100 miles of a charger.
A plug-in Maverick for the win.

A EV "truck" with a 150 mile range. Is a joke out here.
I'll repeat this again. No one that I know of with electric vehicle, runs their battery down to zero. Even 350 Mi range is a freaking pipe dream.
Now you'll have the EV Fanboys come back and say well you don't run your gas truck down to zero. My answer is. No, I don't have to, because I've got the option to carry a 5 or my 10 gallon atv gas can in the bed. I can do that with a plug-in also.
You can not do that with EV.

The 350 is mostly getting our families RV's off the mountain in Utah.
This is a Nevada rest area if you aren't driving on an interstate highway. ( you can pretty much add New Mexico, Arizona, Utah Wyoming, Idaho )

Yep....that explains it pretty good. I hear ya.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Yep....that explains it pretty good. I hear ya.

You live in Texas, you should know exactly what I'm talking about.
I don't know about Texas, I like exploring ghost/mining towns out here in the West.
If ever got myself into it emergency situation and ran out of gas. I know I can always buy gas from a Rancher. Not possible with an EV.
We did over 1,100 miles on the 4th of July. I had a gas can with 2 gallons of gas and 3 gallons of water, that I carried in a milk crate. Along with a small hydraulic jack and my Stanley battery jumper / air pump.

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