Did work key grabber?

[Waterick]

Hi there

Tonight my Maverick was opened and stolen some stuff
On the video you can see how it was.

Anyone know how he opened my Maverick and how can I prevent this in the future?

P.S. Maverick I bought in the dealer 1 year ago and both keys was in my house.

Video seems to show that the perp only intended to get door open and look for valuables, perhaps knew he could not start and drive off with vehicle. Also, looks as if maybe they just drove by trying their equipment until a nearby vehicles' lights flashed.

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[First Sergeant]

Yup, forgot about the button push. Will look at wife's fob and owner manual to see if it is on her 2014. If that works out on Toyota, why can't Ford figure out the same thing on theirs'? Probably be an added $$$$$ option. The other question I have is, if a nearby nerdy bad dude is trying to capture your lock/unlock signal as you push the button, to obtain the clone, or is it the constant "roving" signal from the fob just "looking" that he needs to get? Thanks for the info! By the way, I am a pretty nerdy guy myself. Ran a part time business out of my home for about 25 years, repairing laptops/PC's and fixing software issues, including viruses, malware etc. etc. Mad me a fair bit of extra cash in the day. Still do it for family and friends, although I remote in and do most of it now. (as long as their machine will start).

Ok, after seeing the video (twice), sounds like the signal is captured anytime the fob is "active", not actually from the loc/unlock commands. I like this function from the video of disabling the fob , but not sure it was available back in 2014. Still checking.

 

[HeyBales]

Ok, that makes sense when I think about it. We have keyless entry on our 4Runner, just never thought it is constantly searching if the fob is moving. What if one left the fob at home, and just used a cut key? Locks would work and I know you wouldn't be able to unlock with the touch on the handle, but probably safer?

The truck is always listening for the fob, keyless or non-keyless.
It gives away no info during that listen, it's radio receiver is on looking for a signal is all.

It's the keyless-entry fob that stops sending out info if it's not moving. Much smaller battery, security issue, it conserves battery. It's not reading from the truck - it's sending the info required to be allowed by the truck to do what it requests.
Which initially is allow hand on door handle to unlock truck. Then when in cab, to allow start and drive.

Non-keyless doesn't send anything out unless you press a button - not a battery drain, or much of a security issue - unless pushing button in wrong area with a bad player there.

Also - you can use a cut key, just be quick about unlock and within 10 sec getting key in ignition and turned to at least On. Actually, it may not matter with below info.

This won't work with keyless-entry and push button start of course. That requires a fob sending it's info out.

For the non-keyless, the fob usage is required to use the full alarm system. So one con going to just non-fob key usage.


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[First Sergeant]

The truck is always listening for the fob, keyless or non-keyless.
It gives away no info during that listen, it's radio receiver is on looking for a signal is all.

It's the keyless-entry fob that stops sending out info if it's not moving. Much smaller battery, security issue, it conserves battery. It's not reading from the truck - it's sending the info required to be allowed by the truck to do what it requests.
Which initially is allow hand on door handle to unlock truck. Then when in cab, to allow start and drive.

Non-keyless doesn't send anything out unless you press a button - not a battery drain, or much of a security issue - unless pushing button in wrong area with a bad player there.

Got it! Thanks. Off topic, but forgot to ask, Chief's fan? If so, I'm betting you are a happy camper. That was a hell of a good game and I was rooting for them, Hope they can do a win in 2 weeks!

 

[HeyBales]

Just did some searching on disabling the Ford fob as that Toyota video did theirs.

Doesn't appear to - all entries are about from the car side disabling the keyless entry reactions.

So the fob is still sending out it's info constantly, the vehicle just won't unlock on a handle touch.
But you can still press the unlock button on fob, or manual key.

Well, as long as fob is sending out valid transponder code info constantly (maybe they sleep with non-movement too at least), then someone can read it, program a device, and remote unlock your vehicle - for at least rummaging.

Seems like with push-button start, and no ignition for a key - that must still be enabled, so maybe they could still drive away.

I wonder how many keyless-entry codes you can listen to going down a grocery store aisle?
Fob is a moving probably.


ETA - game was touchy there - lots of fireworks around - wish I'd gotten out to see if any looked good, or just the exploding kind.

 

[First Sergeant]

Just did some searching on disabling the Ford fob as that Toyota video did theirs.

Doesn't appear to - all entries are about from the car side disabling the keyless entry reactions.

So the fob is still sending out it's info constantly, the vehicle just won't unlock on a handle touch.
But you can still press the unlock button on fob, or manual key.

Well, as long as fob is sending out valid transponder code info constantly (maybe they sleep with non-movement too at least), then someone can read it, program a device, and remote unlock your vehicle - for at least rummaging.

Seems like with push-button start, and no ignition for a key - that must still be enabled, so maybe they could still drive away.

I wonder how many keyless-entry codes you can listen to going down a grocery store aisle?
Fob is a moving probably.


ETA - game was touchy there - lots of fireworks around - wish I'd gotten out to see if any looked good, or just the exploding kind.

Crazy. 1951 GMC truck, my first vehicle and only 13 years old. The ultimate anti-theft device. Had a key, but you had to know where the "secret start "button" was (on the floor next to gas pedal). That old truck had to always be "choked" and pump the "foot feed" like all hell was breaking loose. Had to be pretty coordinated to push the start button with and pump the gas with heel! 3-speed on the tree would deter most from driving it away today. Got to laugh about the threads here on the headlights that are too bright. I like my Maverick lights. About 1,000 times brighter than that old truck with the fancy 6 volt system! Dimmer switch on floor to left of clutch and no radio, just a hole in the dash where it would have been if grandpa had not been so cheap and ordered it to start with! Go Chief's!

 

[Ozarkbeard]

...just get a mechanical key cut to lock and unlock the door...

Some locksmiths will cut you a metal "door key." They're also handy, in case you or your truck locks your fob key in the truck.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Crazy. 1951 GMC truck, my first vehicle and only 13 years old. The ultimate anti-theft device. Had a key, but you had to know where the "secret start "button" was (on the floor next to gas pedal). That old truck had to always be "choked" and pump the "foot feed" like all hell was breaking loose. Had to be pretty coordinated to push the start button with and pump the gas with heel! 3-speed on the tree would deter most from driving it away today. Got to laugh about the threads here on the headlights that are too bright. I like my Maverick lights. About 1,000 times brighter than that old truck with the fancy 6 volt system! Dimmer switch on floor to left of clutch and no radio, just a hole in the dash where it would have been if grandpa had not been so cheap and ordered it to start with! Go Chief's!

I have owned all of the above.
1. Big two door Buick with a starter button on the floor.
2. Chevy work van with "three on the tree" my wife even knew how to drive it.
3. I love the brightness of the lights on my Maverick. Although there are some that say they cause glare and want to go back to the old dim yellow halogen headlights.
4. I've replaced many headlight bright switches on the floor that rusted out due to salt and snow.

Old Memories. Now if I could just remember what I did yesterday.

Some locksmiths will cut you a metal "door key." They're also handy, in case you or your truck locks your fob key in the truck.

Good idea.
Remember when using a manual key to unlock the Maverick. You've got 12 seconds before the alarm sounds.

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