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To quote Gunny Whitlock, never forget the seven P's...
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Ford decided they wanted to introduce this new vehicle made from parts outsourced from a million different places at a facility in Mexico. And now they can't keep up with demand and they're already having recalls.. gee go figure.
I wonder how many computer chips that 1966 Mustang required? Also you are not in "month 6" unless you're counting months where production wasn't even started. Production started mid-September. You knew this ahead of time. You're in month 3.
These posts are exhausting.
As someone else said - if Ford is doing a terrible job, tell them so with your dollars and buy something else.
These posts are exhausting.
As someone else said - if Ford is doing a terrible job, tell them so with your dollars and buy something else.
Ford sold over 17 MILLION vehicles in 2019… now there is a pandemic. There was nothing close to this global parts, shipping, labor or otherwise logistical issues when the mustang was first out in the mid 60s (64 1/2 for pony fans right?)
Sorry just can’t compare it like that.
Sorry just can’t compare it like that.
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Huh, if posts like mine are so exhausting, why do you take the time to read them and then respond? It posts such as mine are so terrible, prove it by ignoring the post and not responding....
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True that but we aren't in the same world today.
Ford had likely 30-35% of the automotive market in the 1960s and had the demand associated with it. Today there are at least a dozen more brands and hundreds upon hundreds more choices buyers have diluting the market such that today's manufacturer's even at their most robust don't allocate capacity they way they did back then.
The Mustang launched into a market that was the best of times, solid, growing and nothing in its path in the way of challenges. Ford had the ability and reasons for that product to plan that much capacity.
Today, a new product launch like Maverick is a much more expensive and risky thing. Because Ford or any American manufacturer isn't the powerhouse they were in the 1960s, they dont have the infrastructure to just have an empty factory at the ready to crank out 20k copies of anything at a moment's notice. It just doesn't work that way today.
And again.....we are in a pandemic. People need to get that through their heads. ALL MANUFACTURING is down not because any single one doesn't have their shit together but because the entire global network of supply and transportation is jacked. Period. To miss this single point at some level has to be a willful choice or just blindness.
It's not like every other car brand has a lot full of new cars. EVERYONE is jacked right now.
Great post. But some just like to hear themselves complain, I guess. The Maverick is a "want", not a necessity - but it's hard to tell that with the way some of these folks act about it. America, and particularly Ford buyers, are probably going to have to get over this instant gratification culture. They want this build-to-order thing to be the new norm even post-pandemic.
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Oh yeah, that Loon who also produced this glittering jewel of ignorance: https://www.motorious.com/articles/features-3/2021-disappointing-car-reveal/
Do you have anything from The Onion?
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I think that all the members in this club need to realize that we can t change the production and the delivery of our vehicles.We need to be a lot more patient with each other.When we ordered the vehicle we knew it would be a waiting game. So everyone sit back and watch the show with a beer ,a scotch or a glass of Vodka, and have a happy, healthy, and patient new year.
There's so much to unpack with your rant. But why does Ford care? They have a ton of orders.
This is the future of auto manufacturing. Generate hype>collect orders>generate scarcity by keeping production lean>sell excess to desperate buyers over MSRP.
Also, are you forgetting that the 60s were the height of domestic manufacturing capacity?
No amount of subsidy would make it profitable for someone in South Texas to have to Uber to and from work everyday. People just love to act afraid of public transit (even though there is a long history of train/street car usage in the US before it was all ripped up and replaced with roads for little lords in their 19 foot long station wagons)
This is the future of auto manufacturing. Generate hype>collect orders>generate scarcity by keeping production lean>sell excess to desperate buyers over MSRP.
Also, are you forgetting that the 60s were the height of domestic manufacturing capacity?
That article is some crankery. I like cars as much as the next guy, but public transport is elitist? Lmao, good one. The UK has much denser urban areas than generally anywhere in North America. Public transportation is vital for cutting emissions, congestion, safety, etc.
No amount of subsidy would make it profitable for someone in South Texas to have to Uber to and from work everyday. People just love to act afraid of public transit (even though there is a long history of train/street car usage in the US before it was all ripped up and replaced with roads for little lords in their 19 foot long station wagons)
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Very well stated salient points. However, Ford and other auto companies did screw up by canceling their chip orders. They also dropped the ball by using chips straight out of the 90s produced at antique wafer fabs that are not profitable. My tossing in the production numbers was more to stir the pot than anything.. (I like popcorn...) And it worked, the same old curmudgeons just had to step up and say their thing... And I'm not referring to your response because again your reasoning is well thought out and factual.
But I will also go on to say that I do believe Ford has dropped the ball in spite of the pandemic.
The pandemic has obviously caused problems, any rational person would agree to this. That said, the pandemic is also being used as an excuse for poor business practice and management. All that aside, my complaint is actually the allocation, and it being used to allow someone who orders later to get their vehicle sooner then the people who ordered early on. In my case I know of a situation where the person ordered the exact same vehicle I ordered all the way down to the color and options... In October, and they now have their vehicle. There were only two differences between their order and my order, when we ordered and the dealership. I ordered in July, they ordered in October and the dealership, we ordered from, different dealerships. Why he has his Maverick and I don't have mine comes down to allocation. I ordered in July and I'm still awaiting a build date, he ordered in October and they now have their Maverick.
In the fine print somewhere be it on the Ford website or at the dealer, it should have been stated that dealer allocation may have an effect when you receive your order. You know, full disclosure that allows people to make a informed decision. I don't think I'm being unreasonable expecting that information to be provided so I could have made an informed choice. Do you?
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