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I mentioned on another thread on this form that I am working on a system design for both the EB and the Hybrid models for the maximum size inverter based on utilizing stock equipment in both models. I am working with an engineer rather than just winging it. There will be no guessing - all technical information will be provided on this forum when finished.

I/we need some help from anyone out there who actually has a Hybrid or an EB and has the knowhow to get actual output amperage from the respective charging system. What is known are the formulas to calculate the inverter size but all numbers to enter into the calculation are not available. What we know is that the EB has a 190amp alternator but that's the output rated at 6000 RPMs. The Hybrid DC to DC converter to charge the 12v battery puts out 150 amps but again, at higher RPMs than at idle. The proposed design will be for a maximum wattage inverter while the engine is at idle so as to not damage the system. The EB system is pretty much cut and dry, just need the numbers. The Hybrid system will be a little more complexed to go beyond the 400 amp OEM inverter.

So here's what we need:

1. Output of both Hybrid and EB charging systems while @ idle.
(hoping to get 3-4 readings for each model to establish an average amperage)
2. Size of the OEM 12v battery in the 2.0 EB models (specs. & photo welcome)
(we have the info for the Hybrid battery thanks to members on the forum)

Thanks in advanced!
I suppose one good thing to come out of having to wait for our Mavericks is that guys like you will have already figured out all kinds of modifications and accessories for our trucks and even have purchasable kits for DIY user installation!
 

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I mentioned on another thread on this form that I am working on a system design for both the EB and the Hybrid models for the maximum size inverter based on utilizing stock equipment in both models. I am working with an engineer rather than just winging it. There will be no guessing - all technical information will be provided on this forum when finished.

I/we need some help from anyone out there who actually has a Hybrid or an EB and has the knowhow to get actual output amperage from the respective charging system. What is known are the formulas to calculate the inverter size but all numbers to enter into the calculation are not available. What we know is that the EB has a 190amp alternator but that's the output rated at 6000 RPMs. The Hybrid DC to DC converter to charge the 12v battery puts out 150 amps but again, at higher RPMs than at idle. The proposed design will be for a maximum wattage inverter while the engine is at idle so as to not damage the system. The EB system is pretty much cut and dry, just need the numbers. The Hybrid system will be a little more complexed to go beyond the 400 amp OEM inverter.

So here's what we need:

1. Output of both Hybrid and EB charging systems while @ idle.
(hoping to get 3-4 readings for each model to establish an average amperage)
2. Size of the OEM 12v battery in the 2.0 EB models (specs. & photo welcome)
(we have the info for the Hybrid battery thanks to members on the forum)

Thanks in advanced!
Any updates on this? I’m also wondering how hard it would be to install an inverter in the cab for those of us who didn’t buy a mav that comes with one. Are they prewired for easy DIY?
 

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I'm hoping to go the route of purchasing the outlet for the bed and tapping into the in cab inverter. did you select that option on your build or no in cab inverter?
 

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Without using the alternator the battery on a 2.0L eco boost is 70AH * 12V or 840 Watts. That is the max continuous wattage you can run in the extreme case. If you go by the RC rating of 120 minutes that is about 50 amps so the low end is 600 watts continuous. The fuse for the inverter in the fuse box is rated at 60 amps so the actual max using the factory specs is 720 or realistically a 700 watt invertor is the largest you would run or a combo of 2 300 and 400 watt invertors.

With the alternator running it is 175 amp * 12v or 2150 Watts continuous. You have to make sure the alternator is running when it pulls above 700 watts and wire and fuse it differently than above.

For the hybrid battery without the alternator running.

That has an RC of 65 minutes. No one lists the actual amp hour so the estimate is approximately half RC of 120 mins. so about 30 amps. Low end is 12 x 30 = 360 watts. Figure the battery itself has about 50 AH hour rating then 600 Watts. It will ultimately depend what amperage fuse is installed at location 85 in the fuse box under the hood for a hybrid. I also have no idea how the hybrid battery system works in conjunction with an invertor.

https://www.vamptmotors.com/ford/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/2017_MOTORCRAFT_BATTERY_CATALOG.pdf

Here is how they define the RC ( reserve capacity). You can use that back into the actual amp hour of the battery in question.
 
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Hats off to everyone here that has searched out options for 120 volt inverters that may be able to be supported by the Maverick 12 volt system. Myself, I'm just hoping there is a simple and logical path to install the "Luxury" option supported LH box inverter and 12 V outlet system in my XLT. As far as going beyond the factory 400 watt system, I air on the cautious side. I'm certainly not saying a bigger inverter is out of the question using OEM wiring, but, for me at least, seems like a 1000 watt Jackery, or gas generator, would be my choice if I needed that much power. I know that may not provide the convenience of a built in system, but it seems there is a reason Ford, as well as GM and Dodge, limits the wattage of factory 120 volt inverter systems. I'm in the Automotive wheel balancing/alignment equipment business and I'm in dealerships service departments every day. Nothing more scary when you see a vehicle that is literally gutted beyond recognition, taking up two service bays, the dash and steering column, , interior headliners and side panels,, all seats and consoles, carpet, under hood wiring, etc laid out on the floor,,the loom spread out, chasing a ground or intermittent electrical issue,, it's a very scary site, makes me shudder every time I see it. When it comes to potentially injecting electrical systems issues today, I'm for not poking the bear.
 

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I added a 12v and 110v outlet in my Maverick XL. I used a Ram 1500 400w inverter with Nissan Titan bed outlet. I didn't want to use a aftermarket inverter as they can be loud compared to oem inverters. Unfortunately my truck did not have the factory inverter harness so I ended up making my own. I mounted the inverter behind the rear seat. The 12v outlet is wired to the harness that's already in the bed.

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Ram Truck inverter 400w
Bed outlet harness 253A0-7S200
110v power outlet 253A47S200
12v outlet
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Did you get your parts locally or online?
 
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I added a 12v and 110v outlet in my Maverick XL. I used a Ram 1500 400w inverter with Nissan Titan bed outlet. I didn't want to use a aftermarket inverter as they can be loud compared to oem inverters. Unfortunately my truck did not have the factory inverter harness so I ended up making my own. I mounted the inverter behind the rear seat. The 12v outlet is wired to the harness that's already in the bed.

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Ram Truck inverter 400w
Bed outlet harness 253A0-7S200
110v power outlet 253A47S200
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Maybe this is addressed in a different thread, I'm still quite new here as I bought my Maverick just under a week ago. But how did you access the electrical cubby through the bed liner? I'm assuming you have to cut it? But not sure and don't want to make a mess of it
 

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Maybe this is addressed in a different thread, I'm still quite new here as I bought my Maverick just under a week ago. But how did you access the electrical cubby through the bed liner? I'm assuming you have to cut it? But not sure and don't want to make a mess of it
Yes, you'll have to remove the cover, and cut to fit.
 

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Do we have any confirmation of where the 400W inverter is located on an XL? And if it can be utilized to get the OEM Bed 110 and LED light from the XLT Lux installed?
 

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Do we have any confirmation of where the 400W inverter is located on an XL? And if it can be utilized to get the OEM Bed 110 and LED light from the XLT Lux installed?
I haven't got mine yet but other threads put it under the middle consol. Others have added the 110 outlet in the bed. The inverter isn't needed for the bed light. You can pick up 12v from various sources such as the two DIY power points in the back
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