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The last straw? (Vehicle down for 3+ weeks, with no end in sight.)

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Totally get the ‘fit in the garage’ / ‘desire for hauling capability’ motivation.

Exactly why I downsized to a 1) Ford & 2) Maverick. And I also went with a hybrid lariat.

If I get to your level of problems I would probably dump the hybrid but stick with a Maverick.

Good luck, please update with your progress.
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I surmise and hope it went into shutdown mode when the engine turned off at the red light and therefore had nothing generating power. If you're driving at 75 mph the alternator is generating power....
 
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I surmise and hope it went into shutdown mode when the engine turned off at the red light and therefore had nothing generating power. If you're driving at 75 mph the alternator is generating power....
Unfortunately, there is no alternator on the Hybrid Mavericks. There is one motor / generator the is both powered by, and that recharges the HVB. The HVB, in turn, powers a "voltage converter" that delivers 12V to recharge the small 12V battery. And that's what really bugs me... If the HVB is powered ON and supplying high voltage, and the converter is supplying 12V to charge the battery, why wouldn't the computer remain powered by the 12V coming from the converter? There is no need to "shut down the engine" when that happens!
Anyway, I thank several of you for the suggestion to trade it for a EcoBoost model. I may just decide to do that... Unfortunately, it's unlikely that I will get my favorite color (Cyber Orange), since that color is now discontinued. Sigh.
 

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There are a bunch of reason not to purchase any vehicle. ICE have just as many issue.. Look at the F150 recall list... or even complaints. 1390 for the F150. https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2018/FORD/F-150%2520SUPER%2520CREW/PU%252FCC/4x4#complaints
I would like to compare the Maverick Hybrid to the Maverick ICE. Anyone have those numbers. Recalls per each year and how many unit involved would be really good info. I am truly interested not trying to throw shade on either version.
 

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I would like to compare the Maverick Hybrid to the Maverick ICE. Anyone have those numbers. Recalls per each year and how many unit involved would be really good info. I am truly interested not trying to throw shade on either version.
2023 Mav AWD https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2023/FORD/MAVERICK/PU%252FCC/4WD

2023 Mav FWD https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2023/FORD/MAVERICK/PU%252FCC/FWD

They are clumped together. You would have to go through each complaint. The recalls should state which engine.

People have to report issue to NHTSA.

Here's another website https://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/
 

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Good Lord, that's a lot of problems. I've had my fair share of issues in the past with my Maverick. I'll be glad to advise how to fix things because it worked for me. Send a note to my email: [email protected]
 

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If your 12 volt battery is dead you probably wouldn't be able to start the car because the voltage converter won't be able to supply hundreds of amps at 12V I surmise.

Could power everything though else though via the voltage converter....and they shouldn't do the auto-stop if battery is marginal.
 

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To me, it is totally unacceptable for a truck to be "down for parts" for more than three weeks (this time) because there are no repair parts available in the system.
I agree, especially for a vehicle that has been out for a few model years.

Your entire ordeal is very concerning and I'm sorry that you had to go through it. It makes me not want to purchase a brand new vehicle again, especially ordering a Maverick. I'd be pretty disappointed to order a vehicle exactly how I want, only for it to have issues as severe as this.

I generally buy vehicles that are one-owner lease returns or lease buyouts that the owner eventually sold. I know it's not feasible for everyone, but it's what works for me. And because I have less money tied up in the vehicle, I don't mind if it has occasional problems.

I lucked out with the Nissan Frontier (so far anyway). The vehicle was largely unchanged for the 15-year run of the 2nd gens. Mine needed a new driveshaft (under warranty) and the other consumable parts to install it. I figured it'd be a couple weeks, but the service advisor said all the parts would be there the next day, and sure enough, they were.

It also needed a new IPDM module (relay/fuse box). That took just three days to come in. The IPDMs are specific to the equipment on a particular truck, and mine is a combination that is extremely rare on the west coast, so it wasn't in stock at any local Nissan distribution center.

The service advisor said that they've ordered entire rear axle assemblies for the Frontier and get them in a week or two at most.

My Prius will not do a damn thing without the battery connected either. How can it. It needs the 12 volt battery to start the car.
A relative of mine has a gen 3 Prius that I regularly work on. The vehicle needs to be in Key-On-Engine-Off for certain maintenance tasks, such as bleeding the brakes. But the Prius has a small 12v battery, so Toyota Tech Info says to connect a booster battery to it for such procedures. I opted not to, and in the course of finishing the brake bleed (about 30 minutes of KOEO) the 12v battery charge depleted by 70%.

Followed by a a demonstrably incompetent and expensive service experience at another dealership. Those two experiences soured me on the Toyota brand for life, even though my rational brain told me that I was making an irrational decision (I was throwing out the whole brand because of bad experiences at two MA dealerships).
Same for me and Mazda. Loved the car, hated the local service department. I threatened to take them to small claims if they stood by their decision to deny what turned out to be a warranty repair. When it came time to replace the car, I ended up going with a Honda even though I liked the comparable Mazda more.

I can totally understand how many of the modern cars that use so much data to actually control vehicle systems now - would need to turn off instead of allowing to run with bad data and bad controls.
When I did that brake bleed on the gen 3 Prius I mentioned, the 12v battery depleted by 70%. Shortly after, while I was cleaning up, I noticed that the "door ajar" light and the interior lights were on. All the doors were closed. I opened each one and gave it a good shut, and no luck. I suspected it was one of the door jamb switches. I manually pushed the door jamb switches and noticed the puddle lights immediately turned off, but the door ajar light and the interior lights stayed on.

I was even more perplexed because the puddle lights turning off immediately and consistently meant that the door jamb switches were working, but it was almost like the body control module wasn't responding to the signal from the door jamb switches. The interior lights are controlled by the body control module.

Fortunately the car can still be locked with a door "ajar", but only by using the power door lock switches and not the key fob. Also the alarm won't arm since a door is "ajar". So I figured I'd take it for a test drive to ensure nothing else was awry, then figure out the door ajar thing the next day.

As it turns out, the 12v battery being low on charge caused the BCM to not function properly. After I drove the car and the 12v battery charged back up, the door ajar issue went away.
 
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Vehicle: 2023 Maverick Hybrid Lariat, purchased from Covert Ford in Austin, TX.

I went on a short trip (Cedar Park, TX to Sequin, TX - about 80 miles) in my Maverick, and stopped for lunch before going to my appointment. I finished lunch and was driving the approximately 1.5 miles to the appointment. About halfway there, I stopped for at red light at an intersection of a major road and an interstate highway. Just as I pulled to a stop, the Sync system went blank, followed by the main driver's display, then almost immediately both came back on, but with every single warning light illuminated, and pop-up messages from all of those systems coming up so fast that I lost track of how many messages I got. The gas engine, of course, was shut off (as always at a stop), but the transmission was now in "Park" (I didn't touch the shifter) and the parking brake was ON. I could not change into Neutral, nor release the parking brake. Turning the vehicle off (push-button) and back on did nothing. So I was just stuck in the middle of the intersection, with the noon "rush" flowing around me (lots of angry looks, honks, and raised middle fingers directed at me). I tried everything I could think of (including searching the Maverick Truck Club) for similar scenarios and how to resolve it) with no success.

I have a Ford extended warranty, so I called them to tow me to a dealership. But the local dealership said they had no one in their service department qualified to work on hybrid vehicles, and that I would have to have it towed to either San Antonio or Austin to get it worked on. Since my "home" dealer is in Austin, I decided to have it towed there. However, Ford's towing service will only pay for it to be towed to the nearest dealer, so I had to pay almost $300 to get it towed to Austin.

This post is already going to be long, so to shorten it somewhat, my service advisor told me the only thing wrong was that the 12V battery was absolutely dead - zero volts - and that it would not accept a charge. Something must have broken inside the disabled the entire battery. They replaced it under warranty, but the detailed explanation I got from the service manager and technician scared the hell out of me! If the 12V battery fails like this, the computer shuts down the engine (and electric power as well) and puts the transmission into Park, and applies the parking brake. Until the computer sees a normal 12V signal again, it will NOT allow the vehicle to be shifted out of Park, nor allow the parking brake to release. This seems absolutely crazy to me, given that the high-voltage battery was absolutely fine, and we all know that the HVB is what recharges the 12V battery, whose only purpose is the power the computer when the hybrid system is shut down Why the hell would Ford engineer the system such that a 12V battery (an accessory at best) would force a critical shutdown - as though it were a nuclear reactor performing an emergency shutdown? It's not only ridiculous, it's downright dangerous!

The truly scary part is that if the battery failure had occurred 2 miles prior or 2 miles after it did, I would have been on an Interstate highway, going 75 mph (speed limit in this area) when the computer decided to put the vehicle into Park and apply the parking brake. Whether it would have done so at 75 mph, I have no idea (nor did the tech), but even if it had just shut down the engine and hybrid power system and had me coast to a stop, then shifted to Park and applied the parking brake, I would have been in some seriously fast traffic with an immovable vehicle. What are the odds I might have been killed in the almost inevitable rear-end collision that would follow?

This seems like a MAJOR design flaw. My wife won't even set foot in the Maverick any longer, and doesn't want me to drive it either. We both believe this is a significant hazard - especially given the track record of the 12V battery failures that have been a chronic issue in the Maverick Hybrid, as you can definitely see from these forums... So I' will no longer drive on the freeway in my Maverick, nor take it on long trips, since it has stranded me three times now. I'm starting to investigate the Lemon Law in Texas...

To make matters even worse, I have also experienced three separate occurrences of "multiple sensor" warnings:
  • Pre-Collision Assist not Availble
  • Powertrain Malfunction / Reduced Power
  • Blind Spot Detection with Cross traffic
  • High-Voltage Battery Warning (detailed message says stop as soon as possible and contact authorized dealer)
  • Service Engine Soon Warning
The first time, the dealership (280 miles from home) told me the Engine Control Module needed to have the software reloaded. Doing this seemed to return the vehicle to service. The out-of-town dealership put me at the head of the queue since I was on a trip, and got me going within a couple of hours. I was extremely grateful for their quick response.

The second time I got this rash of messages, I tried, but I could not clear the problem by shutting down and restarting. This time, the dealer reported they cleared the errors, but could find nothing wrong afterward, and the vehicle performed normally for them with no further errors. This was also at an out of town dealership. I mentioned it to my "local" dealer when I went in for an oil change, but there were no errors in the system for them to go on.

The third time it happened, I was here in town, and got the "High Voltage Warning" that basically means "park the vehicle." So I again had it towed to Covert Ford. It took two days for them to get it into the shop to actually work on it. After almost a full day of diagnostics, their tech found a "damaged" connector plug in the wiring harness where the ECM connects (apparently under the hood, in one of the back corners). When he jiggled that connector, the system threw all kinds of warning messages, including the ones above. They attempted to order a new connector, but apparently they aren't in Ford's ordering system - you can only order the complete engine wiring harness. My service advisor (good guy) told me he asked why the didn't just get a new connector from somewhere like Granger, cut the existing wires, and connect the new one... Seems the wires are short enough that if they cut them, the connector will no longer reach the plug where it needs to connect.

Two days later: Bad news, no wiring harnesses available anywhere in Ford's system, and they are back-ordered, but that Ford had agreed to upgrade the order to "Emergency - vehicle not on road" status, which should give us the highest priority when the harness became available... Two days later, I was contacted by someone in Customer Service at FoMoCo, telling me she would be following up with me, keeping me updated on all the effort FoMoCo was putting toward getting my vehicle repaired to my satisfaction, and promising the would be my primary point of contact until my vehicle was repaired and back in my hands. But basically, she told me nothing the service advisor had not already told me... Fast forward several more days, and today I was contacted by a different person at Ford Customer Service, letting me know that she had tried to contact the dealership, but wasn't able to get anyone, so she had no "dealer update" for me, but that my back-ordered part was showing "pending upgrade to emergency status". I asked why it wasn't already ON emergency status, and she said "well, they don't have any in stock, so they can't make it an emergency status until they do." (Seems to kind of defeat the purpose of allowing back-orders, doesn't it?) In any case, she was totally not helpful, except to ask if the dealership had given me a loaner car (they had not. - none available when I took it in).

So after I got off the phone with her, I immediately called the dealership (which she said she could not reach "anyone" in the service department, and would not try again until after the weekend - this at roughly 2PM on Friday). The phone was answered immediately, and I was able to get my service coordinator on the phone in less than 1 minute. (So she was full of you-know-what...) I expressed my frustration at being without my truck for 3+ weeks, and asked if there was any possibility of getting a loaner vehicle. He escalated the case to his management, who escalated it to the sales team, and got approval for a loaner. I just got back home from picking up a 2024 F-150 that will be my loaner until my truck is fixed. My thanks to Covert Ford (Austin, TX) and William Heinrich (service coordinator - who had been great to work with every time I've been in the shop).

When I first took delivery of the Maverick (July, 2023), the entire sound system was non-functional. All the features "worked" other than the fact that there was no sound at all from the Sync system (so no sound through Apple Car Play, either). The dealership diagnosed the issue within a couple of hours (a bad hardware module in the Sync system), and told me it was back-ordered with no estimate on when it would be delivered. They offered me the choice of leaving the vehicle with them until the repair part came in (with a loaner in the meantime), or just go ahead and keep the truck until the part came in, at which time they would contact me an schedule a repair. Since I had only JUST picked up (and paid for) the Maverick, I elected to keep it until the part came in... Glad I did, because the part didn't come in until late December, 2023 - that's 6 1/2 months after it was ordered! Because it came in just as the holidays hit, they gave me a Mach-E loaner for Christmas holidays. When I got back from my son's house after Christmas, my truck was finally ready, and I got to hear the sound system for the first time. So again, I feel like Covert Ford did their best to accommodate me, but the FoMoCo parts inventory system let both of us down pretty badly.

And Ford, you've got some serious 'spraining to do... Either A) Ford has the worst spare parts inventory management of any motor vehicle company I've ever dealt with, or B) there has been a massive run on replacement engine wiring harnesses. To me, it is totally unacceptable for a truck to be "down for parts" for more than three weeks (this time) because there are no repair parts available in the system. In any case, the Maverick Hybrid that I absolutely loved at first has proven to be completely unreliable.

At this point, I cannot recommend to anyone that they purchase a Maverick Hybrid.
Well, I have a maverick come to a sudden stop and put it self in park. This has happened 2 times to my wife ,once to the service advisor and once for me. I have taken it to the Ford to repair, first time I got it to them and all the codes cleared and no record of them in the ECM. The second time It went into limp mode and drives itself up to thirty five miles an hour. I was able to get it up at the dealer with all of the codes flashing. It even happened to the service tech who was working on it the second time. I get it back and the say all is fixed , till last week it happened to me. I was able to get it back to the dealer in limp mode again. They say there's a couple corroded Pins on the e c m and one for the door censor. I have a pending back request on going with Ford. I love the truck, I don't love that I can't take it on any trip and my wife is deathly scared of the truck.
 
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If your 12 volt battery is dead you probably wouldn't be able to start the car because the voltage converter won't be able to supply hundreds of amps at 12V I surmise.

Could power everything though else though via the voltage converter....and they shouldn't do the auto-stop if battery is marginal.
Once again, the Maverick Hybrid does NOT use the 12V battery to turn a "starter" like a conventional ICE vehicle would have. The hybrids have a motor/generator that is powered by the HVB. It supplies enough amperage to drive the car at up to 59 mph, so starting the engine should be WAY less amps than that.
As I understand it, the 12V battery only powers the 12V components (door locks, etc) plus all the various computers and sensors. It's the lack of power to the computer(s) from the 12V battery that results in the shutdown...
 
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Well, I have a maverick come to a sudden stop and put it self in park. This has happened 2 times to my wife ,once to the service advisor and once for me. I have taken it to the Ford to repair, first time I got it to them and all the codes cleared and no record of them in the ECM. The second time It went into limp mode and drives itself up to thirty five miles an hour. I was able to get it up at the dealer with all of the codes flashing. It even happened to the service tech who was working on it the second time. I get it back and the say all is fixed , till last week it happened to me. I was able to get it back to the dealer in limp mode again. They say there's a couple corroded Pins on the e c m and one for the door censor. I have a pending back request on going with Ford. I love the truck, I don't love that I can't take it on any trip and my wife is deathly scared of the truck.
Man, I definitely feel your pain. And I'm right there with you on loving the truck, but not loving the fear of taking it anywhere non-local...
 

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That's bizarre... Why have a 12 volt battery at all then. And by the way, you didn't previously state the 12 volt battery doesn't turn the starter.


Didn't even Tesla have a 12 volt battery for a long time? I think they got rid of it not very long ago.
 

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Vehicle: 2023 Maverick Hybrid Lariat, purchased from Covert Ford in Austin, TX.

I went on a short trip (Cedar Park, TX to Sequin, TX - about 80 miles) in my Maverick, and stopped for lunch before going to my appointment. I finished lunch and was driving the approximately 1.5 miles to the appointment. About halfway there, I stopped for at red light at an intersection of a major road and an interstate highway. Just as I pulled to a stop, the Sync system went blank, followed by the main driver's display, then almost immediately both came back on, but with every single warning light illuminated, and pop-up messages from all of those systems coming up so fast that I lost track of how many messages I got. The gas engine, of course, was shut off (as always at a stop), but the transmission was now in "Park" (I didn't touch the shifter) and the parking brake was ON. I could not change into Neutral, nor release the parking brake. Turning the vehicle off (push-button) and back on did nothing. So I was just stuck in the middle of the intersection, with the noon "rush" flowing around me (lots of angry looks, honks, and raised middle fingers directed at me). I tried everything I could think of (including searching the Maverick Truck Club) for similar scenarios and how to resolve it) with no success.

I have a Ford extended warranty, so I called them to tow me to a dealership. But the local dealership said they had no one in their service department qualified to work on hybrid vehicles, and that I would have to have it towed to either San Antonio or Austin to get it worked on. Since my "home" dealer is in Austin, I decided to have it towed there. However, Ford's towing service will only pay for it to be towed to the nearest dealer, so I had to pay almost $300 to get it towed to Austin.

This post is already going to be long, so to shorten it somewhat, my service advisor told me the only thing wrong was that the 12V battery was absolutely dead - zero volts - and that it would not accept a charge. Something must have broken inside the disabled the entire battery. They replaced it under warranty, but the detailed explanation I got from the service manager and technician scared the hell out of me! If the 12V battery fails like this, the computer shuts down the engine (and electric power as well) and puts the transmission into Park, and applies the parking brake. Until the computer sees a normal 12V signal again, it will NOT allow the vehicle to be shifted out of Park, nor allow the parking brake to release. This seems absolutely crazy to me, given that the high-voltage battery was absolutely fine, and we all know that the HVB is what recharges the 12V battery, whose only purpose is the power the computer when the hybrid system is shut down Why the hell would Ford engineer the system such that a 12V battery (an accessory at best) would force a critical shutdown - as though it were a nuclear reactor performing an emergency shutdown? It's not only ridiculous, it's downright dangerous!

The truly scary part is that if the battery failure had occurred 2 miles prior or 2 miles after it did, I would have been on an Interstate highway, going 75 mph (speed limit in this area) when the computer decided to put the vehicle into Park and apply the parking brake. Whether it would have done so at 75 mph, I have no idea (nor did the tech), but even if it had just shut down the engine and hybrid power system and had me coast to a stop, then shifted to Park and applied the parking brake, I would have been in some seriously fast traffic with an immovable vehicle. What are the odds I might have been killed in the almost inevitable rear-end collision that would follow?

This seems like a MAJOR design flaw. My wife won't even set foot in the Maverick any longer, and doesn't want me to drive it either. We both believe this is a significant hazard - especially given the track record of the 12V battery failures that have been a chronic issue in the Maverick Hybrid, as you can definitely see from these forums... So I' will no longer drive on the freeway in my Maverick, nor take it on long trips, since it has stranded me three times now. I'm starting to investigate the Lemon Law in Texas...

To make matters even worse, I have also experienced three separate occurrences of "multiple sensor" warnings:
  • Pre-Collision Assist not Availble
  • Powertrain Malfunction / Reduced Power
  • Blind Spot Detection with Cross traffic
  • High-Voltage Battery Warning (detailed message says stop as soon as possible and contact authorized dealer)
  • Service Engine Soon Warning
The first time, the dealership (280 miles from home) told me the Engine Control Module needed to have the software reloaded. Doing this seemed to return the vehicle to service. The out-of-town dealership put me at the head of the queue since I was on a trip, and got me going within a couple of hours. I was extremely grateful for their quick response.

The second time I got this rash of messages, I tried, but I could not clear the problem by shutting down and restarting. This time, the dealer reported they cleared the errors, but could find nothing wrong afterward, and the vehicle performed normally for them with no further errors. This was also at an out of town dealership. I mentioned it to my "local" dealer when I went in for an oil change, but there were no errors in the system for them to go on.

The third time it happened, I was here in town, and got the "High Voltage Warning" that basically means "park the vehicle." So I again had it towed to Covert Ford. It took two days for them to get it into the shop to actually work on it. After almost a full day of diagnostics, their tech found a "damaged" connector plug in the wiring harness where the ECM connects (apparently under the hood, in one of the back corners). When he jiggled that connector, the system threw all kinds of warning messages, including the ones above. They attempted to order a new connector, but apparently they aren't in Ford's ordering system - you can only order the complete engine wiring harness. My service advisor (good guy) told me he asked why the didn't just get a new connector from somewhere like Granger, cut the existing wires, and connect the new one... Seems the wires are short enough that if they cut them, the connector will no longer reach the plug where it needs to connect.

Two days later: Bad news, no wiring harnesses available anywhere in Ford's system, and they are back-ordered, but that Ford had agreed to upgrade the order to "Emergency - vehicle not on road" status, which should give us the highest priority when the harness became available... Two days later, I was contacted by someone in Customer Service at FoMoCo, telling me she would be following up with me, keeping me updated on all the effort FoMoCo was putting toward getting my vehicle repaired to my satisfaction, and promising the would be my primary point of contact until my vehicle was repaired and back in my hands. But basically, she told me nothing the service advisor had not already told me... Fast forward several more days, and today I was contacted by a different person at Ford Customer Service, letting me know that she had tried to contact the dealership, but wasn't able to get anyone, so she had no "dealer update" for me, but that my back-ordered part was showing "pending upgrade to emergency status". I asked why it wasn't already ON emergency status, and she said "well, they don't have any in stock, so they can't make it an emergency status until they do." (Seems to kind of defeat the purpose of allowing back-orders, doesn't it?) In any case, she was totally not helpful, except to ask if the dealership had given me a loaner car (they had not. - none available when I took it in).

So after I got off the phone with her, I immediately called the dealership (which she said she could not reach "anyone" in the service department, and would not try again until after the weekend - this at roughly 2PM on Friday). The phone was answered immediately, and I was able to get my service coordinator on the phone in less than 1 minute. (So she was full of you-know-what...) I expressed my frustration at being without my truck for 3+ weeks, and asked if there was any possibility of getting a loaner vehicle. He escalated the case to his management, who escalated it to the sales team, and got approval for a loaner. I just got back home from picking up a 2024 F-150 that will be my loaner until my truck is fixed. My thanks to Covert Ford (Austin, TX) and William Heinrich (service coordinator - who had been great to work with every time I've been in the shop).

When I first took delivery of the Maverick (July, 2023), the entire sound system was non-functional. All the features "worked" other than the fact that there was no sound at all from the Sync system (so no sound through Apple Car Play, either). The dealership diagnosed the issue within a couple of hours (a bad hardware module in the Sync system), and told me it was back-ordered with no estimate on when it would be delivered. They offered me the choice of leaving the vehicle with them until the repair part came in (with a loaner in the meantime), or just go ahead and keep the truck until the part came in, at which time they would contact me an schedule a repair. Since I had only JUST picked up (and paid for) the Maverick, I elected to keep it until the part came in... Glad I did, because the part didn't come in until late December, 2023 - that's 6 1/2 months after it was ordered! Because it came in just as the holidays hit, they gave me a Mach-E loaner for Christmas holidays. When I got back from my son's house after Christmas, my truck was finally ready, and I got to hear the sound system for the first time. So again, I feel like Covert Ford did their best to accommodate me, but the FoMoCo parts inventory system let both of us down pretty badly.

And Ford, you've got some serious 'spraining to do... Either A) Ford has the worst spare parts inventory management of any motor vehicle company I've ever dealt with, or B) there has been a massive run on replacement engine wiring harnesses. To me, it is totally unacceptable for a truck to be "down for parts" for more than three weeks (this time) because there are no repair parts available in the system. In any case, the Maverick Hybrid that I absolutely loved at first has proven to be completely unreliable.

At this point, I cannot recommend to anyone that they purchase a Maverick Hybrid.
Posting this in one thread on here was enough. I understand your frustration, that it's no reason to spam.
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