Round Two: 2025 Santa Cruz Refresh vs.. 2025 Maverick Refresh 🥊

[The Cyber Orange Guy.]

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The new XLT doesn't have ACC, If it does is completely new to me. Matter of fact if it does I'm sold.

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[Automan21]

I like the look of the maverick, just looks manly, sorry Santa Cruz.

 

[Meintc]

The new XLT doesn't have ACC, If it does is completely new to me. Matter of fact if it does I'm sold.

It does not have ACC

 

[Milous]

Please, don't show your misplaced American Exceptionalism by knocking the build quality of products from the South Korean Hyundai Motor Group (Hyundai and Kia).

Take a look around the Santa Cruz forums and you will find endless posts with far more serious problems than the Maverick - especially the transmissions.

You can't determine vehicle reliability simply by the number of recalls, it's how serious the recalls are. If a vehicle recall can be addressed by a simple flash update I don't count it at all. In that regard, my 2022 XLT has had ONE recall (side airbags). All the rest were easily fixed in my driveway by a Ford tech.

 

[JASmith]

Take a look around the Santa Cruz forums and you will find endless posts with far more serious problems than the Maverick - especially the transmissions.

You can't determine vehicle reliability simply by the number of recalls, it's how serious the recalls are. If a vehicle recall can be addressed by a simple flash update I don't count it at all. In that regard, my 2022 XLT has had ONE recall (side airbags). All the rest were easily fixed in my driveway by a Ford tech.

You're right, although I can't find data I thought the 8-speed traditional automatic wasn't having the issues the DCT was.

This is from Consumer Reports, they list the Maverick as "above average" and Santa Cruz as "below average" reliability:

On the plus side, the Santa Cruz has a 10 year powertrain warranty.

 

[garnermike]

Take a look around the Santa Cruz forums and you will find endless posts with far more serious problems than the Maverick - especially the transmissions.

You can't determine vehicle reliability simply by the number of recalls, it's how serious the recalls are. If a vehicle recall can be addressed by a simple flash update I don't count it at all. In that regard, my 2022 XLT has had ONE recall (side airbags). All the rest were easily fixed in my driveway by a Ford tech.

Well, consider yourself lucky or blessed. Only one of my Mav recalls was done in my driveway by a tech.
And I won't rely on the complaints logged on the Santa Crus forums to form my opinion about that vehicle or any Hyundai/Kia vehicles. As I reported in my post, I OWNED three Hyundai/Kia cars, and, from that, will testify that they build damn good cars.
I have owned over 30 newly-built cars in my life, and have never had one with more post-delivery issues than the Mav. In fact, my dealer has given up on trying to resolve the one issue that still haunts it: don't drive it for two consecutive days and the intelligent-access doors and interior dome lighting won't work.

 

[Maverickman74]

can someone please produce a "yo dawg, i heard you like" meme with lights in your grill. Because we got you more lights in your grill!

 

[paneubert]

I did not read any of the 4 pages of comments, so not sure who else mentioned it......about all I like on this refresh is that the infotainment screen is angled towards the driver. The rest of it.....yuck. Looking at the photos from behind with the tailgate down just look.....gross.

 

[Maverick+dog]

The fog lights and the body work around them looks really good but they killed the cool headlights:/ my mav's not shaking in it's boots

 

[Grabber Rick]

Take a look around the Santa Cruz forums and you will find endless posts with far more serious problems than the Maverick - especially the transmissions.

You can't determine vehicle reliability simply by the number of recalls, it's how serious the recalls are. If a vehicle recall can be addressed by a simple flash update I don't count it at all. In that regard, my 2022 XLT has had ONE recall (side airbags). All the rest were easily fixed in my driveway by a Ford tech.

I agree with you. But how many of the Maverick recalls were necessary. I have not got any done on mine yet. Turn signals are fine. I can check to see if there is a blown out bulb. Dash lights are still working. My tailights are still working. My wipers are still working and as of now there is no fix for that recall. My thought is if it's not broke why fix it. The Maverick recalls are very minor and may not even effect every vehicle.

 

[mriffey22]

At the end of the day, the thing is just ass ugly

 

[Solaryellow]

Please, don't show your misplaced American Exceptionalism by knocking the build quality of products from the South Korean Hyundai Motor Group (Hyundai and Kia).

I've owned a 2007 Kia Rondo, a 2018 Hyundai Ioniq, and a 2024 Kia Niro. All were/are well-built, durable, and reliable vehicles that delivered as advertised.

And while I love my Maverick, none of those three vehicles needed 6+ recalls, went into a dead deep sleep, or spend a total of month's stay at the dealer for diagnosing/fixing.

A mere six? The last Hyundai I owned (Sonata traded in 2021) made those six recalls look weak. An engine, turbo oil line, etc..., In total, we've owned three vehicles from Hyundai and when we went to the Japanese side of vehicles, I was amazed at the difference and feel of quality.

Hopefully this Ford performs well and knock on wood, close to a year, it has been great.

 

[Blinky]

Well, consider yourself lucky or blessed. Only one of my Mav recalls was done in my driveway by a tech.
And I won't rely on the complaints logged on the Santa Crus forums to form my opinion about that vehicle or any Hyundai/Kia vehicles. As I reported in my post, I OWNED three Hyundai/Kia cars, and, from that, will testify that they build damn good cars.
I have owned over 30 newly-built cars in my life, and have never had one with more post-delivery issues than the Mav. In fact, my dealer has given up on trying to resolve the one issue that still haunts it: don't drive it for two consecutive days and the intelligent-access doors and interior dome lighting won't work.

And I've owned 3 hyundai and had major problems (flywheel not bolted properly, electric fans not working from factory, bad rear differential twice) with all of them so by my reckoning they're trash.
Anecdotal evidence is not really proof of quality or lack thereof.

 

[Gonzo chris]

What kind of moderate hallucinogens are the design people ingesting that would make them try to out-ugly each other's front end. This looks Ok from the side, not terrible in the back, and downright ugly in the front.

Seems like everyone wants to compete to see who can make the worst front end on a vehicle. And this isn't just the Santa Cruz and the Maverick - it stretches across many SUV lines as well.

More important, where can I get some?

 

[Scupking]

Please, don't show your misplaced American Exceptionalism by knocking the build quality of products from the South Korean Hyundai Motor Group (Hyundai and Kia).

I've owned a 2007 Kia Rondo, a 2018 Hyundai Ioniq, and a 2024 Kia Niro. All were/are well-built, durable, and reliable vehicles that delivered as advertised.

And while I love my Maverick, none of those three vehicles needed 6+ recalls, went into a dead deep sleep, or spend a total of month's stay at the dealer for diagnosing/fixing.

I had a 2008 Kia Sorento that I traded in for my Maverick. The Sorento had a soft touch interior that still looked new and had no rattles.. Kia and Hyundai do a good job with their interiors!

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