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The hybrid window stickers that are turning blue -- are they from states that have EPA emissions complete? Sorry if that's obvious I was just assuming it was randomness of Ford's... <waves hands> whatever.
Yes the ones that are BLUE have the EPA emissions listed. Those blue stickers have been posted here and you can see what state the buyer who ordered it lives in thus infer which state has the EPA emissions testing completed.
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Remember that Ford stated in the email with the Hybrid EPA MPG ratings that the next thing that was needed was the EPA Federal and States emissions ratings.

So maybe we should be looking at the window stickers for which states have completed their ratings and which states are holding up the OKTB.

From the other thread and this one these are the States that have completed emissions testing:

Alabama
California
Florida
Minnesota
Ohio
Washington
Wisconsin? - didn't state his order was a Hybrid but posted in this forum

So just waiting on those other 43 states ;)
Seems, if I'm not mistaken that California has the strictest emissions testing, so with that being done it should be quick for the others? :unsure: 15, actually 16 states follow California's emissions (I believe Nevada just added themselves to that list.
 

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You make an interesting point.

If it really is a problem with the "Fed botching everything these days," then we would expect to see the OKTB significantly delayed on lots of other vehicles, not just the hybrid Maverick.

So... Has anyone heard of the OKTB being seriously delayed on other types of vehicles?
This guy is expecting order date to delivery of 45 days… also some interesting info from time to time
https://pickuptrucktalk.com/2021/10/ordering-a-2022-toyota-tundra-how-long-will-it-take/
 
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Remember that Ford stated in the email with the Hybrid EPA MPG ratings that the next thing that was needed was the EPA Federal and States emissions ratings.

So maybe we should be looking at the window stickers for which states have completed their ratings and which states are holding up the OKTB.

From the other thread and this one these are the States that have completed emissions testing:

Alabama
California
Florida
Minnesota
Ohio
Washington
Wisconsin? - didn't state his order was a Hybrid but posted in this forum

So just waiting on those other 43 states ;)
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Seems, if I'm not mistaken that California has the strictest emissions testing, so with that being done it should be quick for the others? :unsure: 15, actually 16 states follow California's emissions (I believe Nevada just added themselves to that list.
some states accept federal guidelines, which does not make any sense… 🤔why wouldn’t you want another layer of state compliance ??
 

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Yes the ones that are BLUE have the EPA emissions listed. Those blue stickers have been posted here and you can see what state the buyer who ordered it lives in thus infer which state has the EPA emissions testing completed.
That would explain why one window sticker was 7 and the others were 6 :unsure: . I was trying to figure out why:)
 

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Remember that Ford stated in the email with the Hybrid EPA MPG ratings that the next thing that was needed was the EPA Federal and States emissions ratings.

So maybe we should be looking at the window stickers for which states have completed their ratings and which states are holding up the OKTB.

From the other thread and this one these are the States that have completed emissions testing:

Alabama
California
Florida
Minnesota
Ohio
Washington
Wisconsin? - didn't state his order was a Hybrid but posted in this forum

So just waiting on those other 43 states ;)
Every state does it's own ratings? 17 states don't even do emission testing.
 

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That would explain why one window sticker was 7 and the others were 6 :unsure: . I was trying to figure out why:)
I don't think that is the explanation for the window sticker. From the EPA: "Ultimately, the fuel economy labels that are affixed to these vehicles on dealership lots will always reflect the federal standard."
 

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I don't think that is the explanation for the window sticker. From the EPA: "Ultimately, the fuel economy labels that are affixed to these vehicles on dealership lots will always reflect the federal standard."
Yes the fuel economy but why the difference in emission rating?
 

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That would explain why one window sticker was 7 and the others were 6 :unsure: . I was trying to figure out why:)
All the reported Window Stickers are BLUE. The one with 7 is BLUE along with the others at 6 that are also BLUE.
 
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Tony_The_Wiseguy said:
Is the latest still January for the first Hybrid sales?

Yes
Why still January?

A bunch of Hybrid Window Stickers were released today with all the EPA data on them. EPA MPG and EPA Emissions. One of these is California which is the strictest on emissions.

These are the states that so far have EPA emissions data on the Window Sticker:
Alabama, California, Florida, Minnesota, Ohio, Washington, Wisconsin

Assuming that the other 43 States follow soon with the EPA emissions data why wouldn't the OKTB happen soon?

And if it happens sooner than 12/8 why couldn't Hybrids that are or currently being built be shipped in November for December delivery?
 
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Why still January?

A bunch of Hybrid Window Stickers were released today with all the EPA data on them. EPA MPG and EPA Emissions. One of these is California which is the strictest on emissions.

These are the states that do far have EPA emissions data on the Window Sticker:
Alabama, California, Florida, Minnesota, Ohio, Washington, Wisconsin

Assuming that the other 43 States follow soon with the EPA emissions data why wouldn't the OKTB happen soon?

And if it happens sooner than 12/8 why couldn't Hybrids that are or currently being built be shipped in November for December delivery?
Just going off what Ford has said in all the press releases. They have not given the OK to buy yet.
 

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Just going off what Ford has said in all the press releases. They have not given the OK to buy yet.
I agree that Ford hasn't yet stated OKTB and until they do their January date is still gospel.

But if all the emissions testing does get complete in lets say a week would Ford not at that time do a press release for the OKTB.

I seems that the current Hybrid Windows Stickers with emission test data being reported as valid that Ford is close and remember the Hybrid Window Sticker with the EPA MPG numbers was leaked first then a few days later Ford did a press release reporting those same EPA MPG numbers.

I am hoping that this is going to happen again: Leak then Ford Press Release.
 

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Agree, still been waiting since late June on hybrid. Again not Fall as advertised for me so hopefully scheduled for January build
 

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I agree that Ford hasn't yet stated OKTB and until they do their January date is still gospel.

But if all the emissions testing does get complete in lets say a week would Ford not at that time do a press release for the OKTB.

I seems that the current Hybrid Windows Stickers with emission test data being reported as valid that Ford is close and remember the Hybrid Window Sticker with the EPA MPG numbers was leaked first then a few days later Ford did a press release reporting those same EPA MPG numbers.

I am hoping that this is going to happen again: Leak then Ford Press Release.

I think the odds are good that the hybrids will get the OKTB soon and ship well before December. Just a guess, but they have been under promising and over delivering once they work around their production issues.
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