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I hear ya! My wife has a heavy right foot too. 🤣
It’s always weird how that works. My wife when I got her her 2.0 ecoboost edge. She drove it the first time and said. “It’s not fast like your truck” well I have over 500whp. I asked do you want it tuned? She said yes. So she got 93 and e30. The e30 was supposed to be for me. But she drove it one time on 93 after the first e30 tank and said nope put it back. She had blended her own e30 for over 200k miles now. She gets terrible fuel mileage.
 

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Didn't read through this thread. BUT if you can tell the difference in NORMAL driving you are magic. Maybe while towing but other wise I would bet BIG dollars no,.
Driving vehicle is the same as playing a violin, drums, checking blood sugar, put smile on wife, etc, etc. Some people pay attention, most do not on most things. Some can "feel" the difference in "playing" their vehicle with a passenger or two than without them maybe while adjusting for windage differences. If driving 75mph with a crosswind they remember the position of their steering wheel with 35 mph crosswind. I don't like to drive with a tach because I am compelled to check go pedal position with rpm at certain speeds, (is there a headwind?).
 

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I like the fact that people seem to be able to argue with respect on this forum. I'm taking a bit different approach here. Other than just my opinion, which is that it matters if it matters to you, but there IS a difference between 87 and 91 octane (Ford even said so). Take a look at the three sources below. They come from radically different sources...but still agree.

The Cliffs Notes are that if your vehicle can take advantage of more timing at a higher octane than it will gain power and economy from that. Whether it's worth it to you, as the driver is up to you.

https://advocacy.consumerreports.or... octane fuels enables,of which enable greater

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a28565486/honda-cr-v-vs-bmw-m5-ford-f-150-dodge-charger/

 

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No additive package can prevent carbon buildup on intake valves in DI engines...
I see a number of posts that are suggestive of this, but haven't seen a direct statement.

The gas engine in the Ford Maverick Hybrid is not Direct Injection. It is sequential multiport fuel injection (SMFI). Atomized fuel flows past the intake valves. Carbon build up isn't normally a problem when the gas/air mixture flows past the intake valves.
 

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I see a number of posts that are suggestive of this, but haven't seen a direct statement.

The gas engine in the Ford Maverick Hybrid is not Direct Injection. It is sequential multiport fuel injection (SMFI). Atomized fuel flows past the intake valves. Carbon build up isn't normally a problem when the gas/air mixture flows past the intake valves.
It is and it isn't. The 2.5L, is Atkinson SMFI . For now, the 2.0L is still GDI

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I have been using regular has in my awd Mav since I got it. I was wondering if I filled an empty tank with premium if I would notice any difference. Or would it take a few tankfulls. Thanks
I believe you'll notice right away and it will only get better as the detergents in high test clean up any carbon from running 87. The slower burn of high test will also lead to less internal stresses.
 

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In our 2023 Hybrid Lariat I run exclusively Ethanol Free "Clear gas". In Utah ethanol free gas is 91 octane. We consistently get 37 to 42 mpg on the freeway (80 mph speed limit in Utah) and 56-65 mpg hybrid local trips. Some local hybrid trips are incredibly fuel efficient!

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Curious why you say 87 is junk? That's all I have used for the past year.truck runs great and averaging 33 mpg. When my wife drives 29 mpg.
Best way to illustrate 87 vs. 92 is running up a long steep hill. Try that and you'll understand why some say 87 is junk. The other way is get a test lab and run 2 identical engines under identical stress for 10K miles, disassemble and measure wear. First way is cheaper.
 

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In our 2023 Hybrid Lariat I run exclusively Ethanol Free "Clear gas". In Utah ethanol free gas is 91 octane. We consistently get 37 to 42 mpg on the freeway (80 mph speed limit in Utah) and 56-65 mpg hybrid local trips. Some local hybrid trips are incredibly fuel efficient!

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Well I hope you use crap oil or at least are in a salty area because you'll be driving that Maverick when the rest of us are beaming to our destination.
 
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Well I hope you use crap oil or at least are in a salty area because you'll be driving that Maverick when the rest of us are beaming to our destination.
Nope. Mojave Desert in southwestern Utah. They don't salt the roads.
 

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I have been using regular has in my awd Mav since I got it. I was wondering if I filled an empty tank with premium if I would notice any difference. Or would it take a few tankfulls. Thanks
On my 22EB, I ran top tier 87 most of the time and the 2.0 had plenty of spunk. No knocking, no issues under daily driving suburban and freeway.

I ran 91 a few times [that is the max in SoCal at most stations] and there was hardly any difference except in my wallet - 91 costs 40 cents more per gallon.

You can do your own test. You might settle for 87 one fill and then 91 or whatever, the next.

Unrelated to this post - in my 2024 hybrid, the engine sounds smoother and the exhaust noise has less "growl" when I use 91. But my mpg isn't any different so it doesn't justify the cost difference.
 

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Over the years any time I use 87 my vehicles don't like it. Sure they will run but I notice a little lower mpg and the engine will ping when the weather warms up. Just by switching to 89 fixes the issue. Personally I will never run 87.
If you see a decrease in fuel economy when switching between octanes then something else is going on. There is no more energy in higher octane fuel than lower octane. If better fuel economy were on tap with premium then the manufacturer would require it use to meet federal fuel economy standards.
 

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Just as a test I filled up with 93. At 87 my mileage was up to 40 MPH, with the same driving on 97 I went as high as 52 MPH.
Instant indications from the computer are meaningless. The only way to truly test is over several tankfuls to average out all the variables.
 

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Best way to illustrate 87 vs. 92 is running up a long steep hill. Try that and you'll understand why some say 87 is junk. The other way is get a test lab and run 2 identical engines under identical stress for 10K miles, disassemble and measure wear. First way is cheaper.
Well I have owned a 52 year old classic muscle car for 32 years,and also have two 15 year old dodges. Have run 87 in them.no problems. You'd think there would be a problem in over 32 years!
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