Would you buy an EV maverick for 25-30k?

[V-blue Mav]

I know I would, probably to go alongside our hybrid. This is Ford's affordable electric vehicle platform, internally called CE1, created by a very talented team of ex apple and Tesla engineers. It's apparently going to be used for an electric maverick and bronco sport, likely other vehicles as well.

I know 25-30k seems too good to be true, but Ford seems very committed to delivering at this price point.

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[Gonzo chris]

So you think if United States switches to electric it will solve the so called global warming? Meanwhile other countries continue to pollute the world. Other countries have less stringent laws on pollution. That pollution still effects entire world not just over their country. Plus why don't we start with all the unneeded jets flying all over the place. That contributes a major portion to the problem. The people who push these regulations are the biggest offenders.

Actually the Chinese are continuing to pollute but they are also pushing hard into solar more than anyone else on earth because they want to control that market. Not because they necessarily care about the earth, but they reality is to this day. Americans pollute far more per capita than any other country on the planet. All kinds of rich people pollute more than others with bigger houses and jets, not just the ones pushing regulations. Also ones who are against it. That's a function of wealth more than anything else. Just like the reason why Americans pollute more because per capita they generally have more money to spend.

 

[Gonzo chris]

Better find another sales pitch. If I ever buy an EV, and I just might, It will have nothing to do with anything in your post. I don’t make major purchases on emotion.

How is it emotion to say that clearly he believes that the climate is being destroyed and people need the earth to live on? I would say your position is more emotionally based.

 

[Hunters Edge]

Not preparing for the EV future is what would cause a necessary bailout again

Is that an opinion, or do you have crystal ball? A lot of technology is coming and not just electrification. Gas being produced that doesn't produce carbon dioxide. Engines that actually remove carbon dioxide. Hydrogen technology etc. Also producing batteries and to find a home for toxic sites is also a major concern. That hasn't been discussed. The rare metals it takes to build as that rare metals are exhausted what then and what kind of price to make those batteries. No I don't think electric is the way of the future, at least at this time anyway.

 

[Gonzo chris]

Never! Gas power forever!

How are the Matlock reruns today!

 

[Gonzo chris]

Is that an opinion, or do you have crystal ball? A lot of technology is coming and not just electrification. Gas being produced that doesn't produce carbon dioxide. Engines that actually remove carbon dioxide. Hydrogen technology etc. Also producing batteries and to find a home for toxic sites is also a major concern. That hasn't been discussed. The rare metals it takes to build as that rare metals are exhausted what then and what kind of price to make those batteries. No I don't think electric is the way of the future, at least at this time anyway.

The GLOBAL market is going there so not my opinion. Battery tech is changing to not need rare metals. Like LFP batteries. You worry about materials running out but somehow believe oil will last forever? I don't discount issues with EVs but I believe the answer is to try to solve them not throw up our hands

 

[Gonzo chris]

Except those that don't want to have anything to do with EV's have to pay for the incentives. People forget the government doesn't make money they just take it from people. Also buyers of a mfg's other vehicles are subsidizing your EV's. Ford loses $35k per EV sold which is covered by F-150 ice sales. So not exactly you do you. Those that want nothing to do with you still have to pay for you in the form of higher taxes and inflated prices on non-EV vehicles.

Nobody forces you to buy a Ford then. I pay taxes for all kinds of things I don't support

 

[son of a ..sven]

Ordered mine this morning at 7 AM when I saw the news! I'm order number 2409 with an estimated ship time around May. Super exciting!

Nice...Things will be easier traveling for you with the opening of the Tesla Supercharging network. I think the higher voltage will come soon after.

 

[Gonzo chris]

That electricity comes from coal, oil, natural gas, wind, solar or nuclear. Each create pollution. I'll bet you wouldn't want to live next door to any of them.
Doesn't really matter. One day, nature will shake us off. like a dog shaking of pesky fleas, and start over again Would not be the first time, will not be the last.
The sun has around 5 billion years left. Humans are a mere fraction of a fraction of a fraction. Party on.

Yup all pollute so do nothing. Don't work in making them less polluting. .....

 

[Gonzo chris]

Only 1 neighbor, out of 12 small SFH's on my court has an EV. The guys is sharp, works for Microsoft geek type. Even installed a charger which he bought on the sly from a commercial firm in a warehouse. I signed off on it and HOA approved. True story.

BTW- What would happen (to the grid) if all 13 little houses had chargers?

The guy has a Nissan Leaf of course. He never goes anywhere on the weekend and no sports. We're complete opposites. Meanwhile, us Maverick owners are truckin' 5-600 miles on the weekend to rural destinations with boats, bikes, etc. No time for charging.

So there you go. Fleet vehicles and nerds. That's your Maverick EV market.

Driving 600 miles every weekend sounds fun..../s

 

[Snox801]

Not preparing for the EV future is what would cause a necessary bailout again

Or maybe not force it on the consumer. Every major problem that has faced us we figure out.
Ev may more than likely not be the future.

Where is the power gonna come from? What about the batteries? I wish people would stop going to that. It’s only the future if it’s forced and then may not even work.

Please explain how not planning would cause a bailout. Selling consumers what they want has never lead to a need for a bailout. The last time they needed a bailout was the same thing. They stopped innovating and were selling stuff people didn’t want.
Fact is we don’t know what the future is. I’m old enough to remember when e85 was the future. Until it wasn’t. If the consumers want ev’s and they fill the roll. They will have no reason to bail them out. But where it stands now they are all losing money on bad business decisions. Not lead by consumers at all.

 

[Snox801]

Plus China is the worlds largest car market now. Some of these guys want to consign the big three to only making gasoline trucks in the United States and that's it.

This is all true but would that be the fact if it wasn’t forced by regulations? Not to mention we can’t say that market will grow. Lots of people may be buying for the novelty or the new thing but the fact is many of these are ending up back on the resale market.

 

[Hunters Edge]

The GLOBAL market is going there so not my opinion. Battery tech is changing to not need rare metals. Like LFP batteries. You worry about materials running out but somehow believe oil will last forever? I don't discount issues with EVs but I believe the answer is to try to solve them not throw up our hands

Your right about oil. I don't know if your realized it but oil is not rare or considered rare. Also the gas they are making that doesn't make carbon dioxide is synthetic and doesn't use oil, that I am aware of. If I read it correctly it is made from plants. Porsche is the one working on that. Toyota is working on an engine that removes carbon dioxide. There is some hiccups synthetic gas is to costly at this time and Toyota engine is an infancy and not ready for mass production. The point I'm making is electric is no way Americans are buying into it. As technology increase it may become but before that happens there are several avenues that maybe better. Especially if they can use the same infrastructure or gas stations that already exists.

I can tell your all gung-ho about EV even though many besides myself have made great points why not to buy or why we will not buy EV, at least at this point in time.

 

[bbhaag]

Nice...Things will be easier traveling for you with the opening of the Tesla Supercharging network. I think the higher voltage will come soon after.

Thanks! It should make travel easier but honestly I don't drive the Mustang that much. Not because I have range anxiety, fear of cold weather driving, or anything like that I just don't like putting the miles on it.

Unfortunately the Mustang only has a max of 150 kw and the best I've seen is around 125 last summer when we took a trip from Peoria IL to Cleveland OH and back to visit family so I will never be able to take full advantage of the higher voltage that newer EVs can.

Anyway, sorry to everyone for derailing the thread. It looks like @Gonzo chris is on a streak right of stirring shit up so I don't want to get in the way.

 

[OneAlienBoi]

To the admins, fuck it, just shut this thread down. I wanted to have a decent conversation, but it's just devolved into political BS.

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