First hybrid oil change at 2,500 ..shavings

[Distracto]

The pig tail one is an obvious shaving. For the rest did you run a magnet through the oil? The pig tail looks something from a drilled hole that wasn’t properly wiped away.

No magnet.. I did look at the bolt from the engine pan, but it doesn't seem to have a magnet on it..

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[Distracto]

So you dumped the shavings out of the filter, where they belong and got excited because the filter was doing it's job?

Yes indeed I did. Not on purpose, I just had a handful of oil, an open container and didn't think to separate the 2 til we talked about it. Kinda just meant to throw up a post about changing the oil and what I'd find. I can see how it's misleading though, we can't tell if those shavings were all from the filter or not. Also not too excited. But it's good to keep a baseline

 

[Jman79]

Depends on what you're into

Must resist temptation to make jokes about the gas hole!

Damnit.... I have no self control

 

[Distracto]

Good call as far as changing the oil. Question is why weren't the shavings caught in the oil filter? Like you, I change my own oil and find Walmart to be the cheapest for the Motorcraft FL910s and Mobil 1. For a little better access I drive my front wheels onto two 2x6's on each side giving 3" more clearance. Love the cyber yellow.

Sorry they might have been. Didn't think about it ahead of time, dumped the oil filter oil in with the rest, but the pics came at the end when I was emptying everything back into the container

 

[Distracto]

Must resist temptation to make jokes about the gas hole!

Damnit.... I have no self control

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..you mean something like how it only works if you have threads on your bolt?

 

[Distracto]

And I waited till 9500 miles for my first oil change

The pics were after everything was combined (the oil from the filter and the oil drained from the engine) I didn't mean to imply the shavings had escaped the filter and were circulating through the engine.. without examining the oil exclusive of the oil from the filter I guess I still don't know enough from the oil to see if it was worth changing early but eh, by that point the oil is already out..

 

[Sventinker]

The pics were after everything was combined (the oil from the filter and the oil drained from the engine) I didn't mean to imply the shavings had escaped the filter and were circulating through the engine.. without examining the oil exclusive of the oil from the filter I guess I still don't know enough from the oil to see if it was worth changing early but eh, by that point the oil is already out..

The service writer tried to say I should do them at 6-7k But I am following the app and I didn't see anything about break in period. I feel like if it breaks it breaks. Buying this was already a leap of faith for me anyway.

 

[Johnkn]

The pics were after everything was combined (the oil from the filter and the oil drained from the engine) I didn't mean to imply the shavings had escaped the filter and were circulating through the engine.. without examining the oil exclusive of the oil from the filter I guess I still don't know enough from the oil to see if it was worth changing early but eh, by that point the oil is already out..

Those are not 'shavings", it appears to be normal break-in sediment that can initially accumulate in the bottom of the oil pan.

It's unlikely that you dumped anything foreign back in the catch container from the oil filter. Oil flows into the oil filter through the perimeter holes, is trapped in the filter media pleats, and flows back into the engine via the large center hole. When pouring oil out of the filter almost all will come through the (clean) filter large center hole and any sediment would be retained in the pleats on the outer surface.. Cutting the filter with the proper tool would expose its contents.

https://www.amazon.com/MOCW-Filter-...cphy=9007683&hvtargid=pla-1746929655100&psc=1

good luck....


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[Mavboy2023]

2023 hybrid; first oil change done at 2,500mi. Opted to do early primarily because still in psychological honeymoon phase of owning a new vehicle .. mobil1 hybrid 0w20, fl910s oil filter from Walmart, grand total $49.79

Edit: the contents of the old oil filter was poured into the rest of the drained oil, prior to pics of the shavings. Observing the shavings was for me to see for myself how much was even there, and see how that compared to anyone else reading. I didn't think before hand that it'd be misleading in that it could suggest the filter did not capture them.. next time I'll pour them separately and see if there's any difference


so:

- the oil appeared clean, translucent, yellow to light brownish (nowhere close to dark brown) all to be expected.

- there were the shavings! I've never seen oil from the first oil change of a vehicle before.. I did expend an hour of my life today changing oil just to scratch this itch. But talking about it isn't enough for this Internet is it? Let's look at the money shots (fyi it's not the best.. how do you get a camera to pic up sparkles in a pan of oil?)

But that little bit was it! Did emptying that out really make a difference? Is that little bit just part of normal engine use? Was there more suspended in the oil that I didn't see (since I waited til the end of the pour to observe!)

Well, I don't care I'm glad I got it out, coz she's brand new and she's mine.. let's see what happens next time


*addendum: in case anyone ever sees this and wanted to know, I was able to do the whole job without jacking the vehicle up.. just slid underneath, easy access. It was a little tight removing the undershield but still way faster than pulling out the floor jack and stands

Following the advice of a YT petroleum engineer I did the same on my Hybrid about a month ago with similar mileage as yours. I believe in doing it over and above the Manual.

 

[Distracto]

Those are not 'shavings", it appears to be normal break-in sediment that can initially accumulate in the bottom of the oil pan.

It's unlikely that you dumped anything foreign back in the catch container from the oil filter. Oil flows into the oil filter through the perimeter holes, is trapped in the filter media pleats, and flows back into the engine via the large center hole. When pouring oil out of the filter almost all will come through the (clean) filter large center hole and any sediment would be retained in the pleats on the outer surface.. Cutting the filter with the proper tool would expose its contents.

https://www.amazon.com/MOCW-Filter-...cphy=9007683&hvtargid=pla-1746929655100&psc=1

good luck....


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Well thank you.. I do not know the oil flow direction through a filter but after reading this, in the name of science, I went and bought one of the filter openers.. pics below.

For anyone who cares, the findings are; not much sediment but it's there and indeed only on the "outside" facing pleats, which would not have made their way back into the center of the filter, which was the oil that was dumped back into the oil from the pan. Implying there is sediment floating around in my first oil change, yes? But is it a big deal? Eh, it's out..

 

[Distracto]

So you dumped the shavings out of the filter, where they belong and got excited because the filter was doing it's job?

Depends, did I?

 

[Distracto]

Buying this was already a leap of faith for me anyway.

Yup, I felt the same taking delivery of a hybrid this summer. But I needed a vehicle and the value was there.. let's see what happens

Also, the service writer told you 6-7k on a hybrid?

 

[Distracto]

The shavings came from somewhere, right? Filter housing or not, break in oil looks this way. You guys are making a huge deal about it when OP did nothing wrong. It really doesn't matter if the shavings were in the filter or the pan, they are small enough to be considered break in shavings.

You can change often, or you can change less.... it's totally up to you. I'll never understand why people care so much how someone else spends their time/money or the need to advise them to push for longer intervals because it's what they do. Plenty of people don't care that you want to stretch the viscosity to it's limits.

Follow the manual, or change earlier. It doesn't mean you will outlive anything either way. It's like people going on diets and dying at 40 while smokers/drinkers are living to be 90. It's a total toss up. Changing often is cheap insurance to some and it's ridiculous to argue the benefits. The only argument is "I don't want to mess with it and it costs more to do so". So do you then. BTW, the manual and the numbers you state are for perfect driving scenarios - i.e. flat surfaces, 90% highway, very little idle time etc etc. Extreme intervals are actually more "normal" for most drivers. But again, you do you. OP has the info they need... you can stop berating them.

 

[Distracto]

For a little better access I drive my front wheels onto two 2x6's on each side giving 3" more clearance. Love the cyber yellow.

Ah, in a pinch I like the 2x6 idea. I love the cyber yellow also, no regerts on the color

 

[Distracto]

So, you are berating me for "berating" the OP, when I did nothing of the sort? Is expressing an alternative "berating?"

Didn't take it that way, no worries

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