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i think most of us agree that the goal is/ should be to reduce Fossil Fuel dependency/emissions by as much as possible as soon as possible right? and i think it must be done sooner, not later . but that shouldnt mean destroying civilization as we know it.
i believe that Hybrids such as our Mav's should & could play a MUCH greater role in this ongoing transition.

with all due respect to my Ecoboost and 'pure' ICE' devotee's i submit to you that our Mav hybrid system makes far more sense for most people. my Mav hybrid has excellent off the line and highway merging performance and is very well appointed for a vehicle in this price range to boot.
i have gone from filling up the tank once a week to once a month, of course your mileage and experience will vary from mine but that is not nothing.
there are not many folks out there that don't like the idea of perhaps doubling their MPG or more while also getting so much value for the $$.

while and until we build out the necessary infrastructure for a mostly electric fleet such as better batteries & more plentiful, and more efficient charging options and better used electric batt recycling options and so forth to support the coming transition to a mostly electric passenger and over the road trucking vehicle fleet it sure seems to me that BHEV's should be the next step to get us there.

one more thing. the US. Census bureau reports that 40% of Americans do NOT have regular access to recharging options for a plug in electric vehicle or plug in hybrid vehicle at home or at work, thats a problem for a lot more people than you may think.
where are these folks supposed to recharge these darn things?
even if you got a electric car or truck with a 300 mile per charge range you WILL eventually have t0 recharge the batt at some point. where are you supposed to recharge the darn thing if you're one of those many folks that don't have access to reasonable recharge options? ....answer....get yourself a Maverick Hybrid and help save the planet while also owning one of the best small pickups for sale anywhere :)

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i think most of us agree that the goal is/ should be to reduce Fossil Fuel dependency/emissions by as much as possible as soon as possible right? and i think it must be done sooner, not later . but that shouldnt mean destroying civilization as we know it.
i believe that Hybrids such as our Mav's should & could play a MUCH greater role in this ongoing transition.

with all due respect to my Ecoboost and 'pure' ICE' devotee's i submit to you that our Mav hybrid system makes far more sense for most people. my Mav hybrid has excellent off the line and highway merging performance and is very well appointed for a vehicle in this price range to boot.
i have gone from filling up the tank once a week to once a month, of course your mileage and experience will vary from mine but that is not nothing.
there are not many folks out there that don't like the idea of perhaps doubling their MPG or more while also getting so much value for the $$.

while and until we build out the necessary infrastructure for a mostly electric fleet such as better batteries & more plentiful, and more efficient charging options and better used electric batt recycling options and so forth to support the coming transition to a mostly electric passenger and over the road trucking vehicle fleet it sure seems to me that BHEV's should be the next step to get us there.

one more thing. the US. Census bureau reports that 40% of Americans do NOT have regular access to recharging options for a plug in electric vehicle or plug in hybrid vehicle at home or at work, thats a problem for a lot more people than you may think.
where are these folks supposed to recharge these darn things?
even if you got a electric car or truck with a 300 mile per charge range you WILL eventually have t0 recharge the batt at some point. where are you supposed to recharge the darn thing if you're one of those many folks that don't have access to reasonable recharge options? ....answer....get yourself a Maverick Hybrid and help save the planet while also owning one of the best small pickups for sale anywhere :)

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And they also look and ride fantastically!
 

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They currently don't make an AWD hybrid, and because of the extreme cold where I live I am concerned about the batteries freezing up. If a FWD hybrid fits your bill, by all means snatch one up and save some gas money.
Has the battery freezing ever happened? The only battery issue that I have heard about is related to the Lightening. During the winter when it is flirting with zero, heavy traffic, the heater, stereo seat heaters were on they ran out of juice about 50% sooner than expected.
 

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I had a 2005 Escape Hybrid. It lasted until 2021 when my son totalled it. It had 278,000 miles and the original battery. It never lost a drop of oil. That SUV hauled more junk than I can tell you. If it wasn't for the accident, it would still be going strong. Thank God my son was alright.
I ordered a Mav Hybrid because I loved the Escape and wanted the mileage. Front wheel drive was just fine with the Escape, and I grew up in Syracuse, NY, so I know what driving in the snow is like. I can only hope my Mav will give me the same great performance. Hybrids are definitely the way to go. We simply don't have the infrastructure and the amount of money it costs to purchase an EV is ridiculous for the masses....
 

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i think most of us agree that the goal is/ should be to reduce Fossil Fuel dependency/emissions by as much as possible as soon as possible right? and i think it must be done sooner, not later . but that shouldnt mean destroying civilization as we know it.
i believe that Hybrids such as our Mav's should & could play a MUCH greater role in this ongoing transition.

with all due respect to my Ecoboost and 'pure' ICE' devotee's i submit to you that our Mav hybrid system makes far more sense for most people. my Mav hybrid has excellent off the line and highway merging performance and is very well appointed for a vehicle in this price range to boot.
i have gone from filling up the tank once a week to once a month, of course your mileage and experience will vary from mine but that is not nothing.
there are not many folks out there that don't like the idea of perhaps doubling their MPG or more while also getting so much value for the $$.

while and until we build out the necessary infrastructure for a mostly electric fleet such as better batteries & more plentiful, and more efficient charging options and better used electric batt recycling options and so forth to support the coming transition to a mostly electric passenger and over the road trucking vehicle fleet it sure seems to me that BHEV's should be the next step to get us there.

one more thing. the US. Census bureau reports that 40% of Americans do NOT have regular access to recharging options for a plug in electric vehicle or plug in hybrid vehicle at home or at work, thats a problem for a lot more people than you may think.
where are these folks supposed to recharge these darn things?
even if you got a electric car or truck with a 300 mile per charge range you WILL eventually have t0 recharge the batt at some point. where are you supposed to recharge the darn thing if you're one of those many folks that don't have access to reasonable recharge options? ....answer....get yourself a Maverick Hybrid and help save the planet while also owning one of the best small pickups for sale anywhere :)

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Love mine. Have had it a few months. Love the thought that went into some things like the back speakers not in the doors but near the upper sides. I did order with luxury package so i got the bells and whistles with a simple look. The only thing i miss which may have been an oversight is the auto up/close for the driver window. It does the auto down. I'm on NY so I'll see how it makes it through the winter.
 
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I had a 2005 Escape Hybrid. It lasted until 2021 when my son totalled it. It had 278,000 miles and the original battery. It never lost a drop of oil. That SUV hauled more junk than I can tell you. If it wasn't for the accident, it would still be going strong. Thank God my son was alright.
I ordered a Mav Hybrid because I loved the Escape and wanted the mileage. Front wheel drive was just fine with the Escape, and I grew up in Syracuse, NY, so I know what driving in the snow is like. I can only hope my Mav will give me the same great performance. Hybrids are definitely the way to go. We simply don't have the infrastructure and the amount of money it costs to purchase an EV is ridiculous for the masses....
Very glad your son is ok :) more cars are made every day.
my point exactly! Hybrids are the way to dramatically reduce fuel usage and tailpipe emissions NOW.
if you had a magic wand and suddenly made EVERY pass vehicle a full plug in electric with charging stations instantly as plentiful as gas stations are today i still dont see it working yet.
not to mention the supply chain issues with procuring enough raw materials to manufacturer & recycle all those MANY of millions batteries needed. there would still be tens of MILLIONS of folks who still wouldnt have access to 'at home' recharging. how are the supposed to keep it charged up?
battery electric hybrids would seem to fill that gap very well. 278,000 miles is both astounding; encouraging, and i think a strong proof of the Hybrid system reliability as implemented in our little trucks . i hope i get 1/2 that with my hybrid Mav
 
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I had a 2005 Escape Hybrid. It lasted until 2021 when my son totalled it. It had 278,000 miles and the original battery. It never lost a drop of oil. That SUV hauled more junk than I can tell you. If it wasn't for the accident, it would still be going strong. Thank God my son was alright.
I ordered a Mav Hybrid because I loved the Escape and wanted the mileage. Front wheel drive was just fine with the Escape, and I grew up in Syracuse, NY, so I know what driving in the snow is like. I can only hope my Mav will give me the same great performance. Hybrids are definitely the way to go. We simply don't have the infrastructure and the amount of money it costs to purchase an EV is ridiculous for the masses....
Hi and wow!

You are the first (on this site) to best my 2005 FEH with 235,xxx miles. Got rear-ended in 2019. Was going strong on original everything except tires, brakes (200k) and a $90 water pump.

Else would still be driving it.
 

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With sustainable energy fossil fuel replacements, we need to see measurable reductions in fossil fuel use.
Adding X number of EVs and X number of GW of solar, we should see X amount of fossil fuel use reduction.
 

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Your thoughts echo the Toyota study stating hybrids would be more beneficial(at least short term) for reducing carbon emissions. Can't find the original article but this sums it up https://www.pcmag.com/news/toyota-says-selling-full-electric-vehicles-is-less-eco-friendly

To be honest I only bought a hybrid for selfish reasons, saving money on gas. I'm not worried about "carbon footprints"
I feel that when we finally have all vehicles, semi's, planes, garden equipment, tools, heating, water heaters, stoves, etc, all become electric we are then going to have major problems only have one source for those things. We will also have rolling blackouts on a regular basis like CA & FL. And electricity has to be made to supply all the growth we are going through. Isn't that why we utilized natural resources like natural gas & oil? Plus the electric companies will have the monopoly and can charge whatever price they want!!
 
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Our wallets will be having blackouts too!
 

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We will also have rolling blackouts on a regular basis like CA & FL.
Where in Florida are you? I've lived in central Florida for over 60 years, and remember only once when we had a rolling blackout. That was around Christmas, over 30 years ago, and had an extremely cold winter night. Water pipes were literally freezing. We're not used to cold like that. But that was once in 61 years.
 

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They currently don't make an AWD hybrid, and because of the extreme cold where I live I am concerned about the batteries freezing up. If a FWD hybrid fits your bill, by all means snatch one up and save some gas money.
In Hybrids, the Lithium drive battery heats up when you start the vehicle . The ICE does that. Also, it would have to be Extremely cold to effect output by that battery. Cold batteries slow down on recharging..again, they are designed to heat up with the engine.
Full EV's have heat pumps that condition the batteries in cold weather..
 

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In Hybrids, the Lithium drive battery heats up when you start the vehicle . The ICE does that. Also, it would have to be Extremely cold to effect output by that battery. Cold batteries slow down on recharging..again, they are designed to heat up with the engine.
Full EV's have heat pumps that condition the batteries in cold weather..
Our 2014 C-Max got much worse fuel economy in the cold winter months, in South Texas. Extreme heat, late July-mid September also increased fuel consumption, AC probably being the major cause. Cold weather fuel economy was the worse of the two in this regard, at least over 100,00 miles.
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