Inverter: modified or pure sine wave?

[MakinDoForNow]

I can see how that would cut both ways with the memory. Ain't no doubt you're not just a survivor, but a fighter. Thanks for what you did and for your service.

Your welcome, I was with army light infantry unit during TET attached to marine corps. Carried M14 with scope and match ammo for 5-6 months of my 11 months in the outdoors searching with every 4th sometimes 8th day resupply ammo,med supplies, rations, one semi hot meal, maybe mail from home, once a month payroll officer would bring pay out which most would keep 0-$40 in script and send rest back to collect stateside. One busy day had three choppers shot down on extracting. When we were carrying troops to load I remember pilot reaching up and turning wipers on because 12-20 bullet holes were raining fuel and rotor wash was covering his windshield with it. We heard he made it 12 miles before having to set it down. He was in unarmed medivac but had another chopper along side firing rockets and machine guns. I was charmed, never had anything that deserved purple heart. Lid shot off canteen, bullet through shirt collar, helmet creased etc....

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[johnny99]

Your welcome, I was with army light infantry unit during TET attached to marine corps. Carried M14 with scope and match ammo for 5-6 months of my 11 months in the outdoors searching with every 4th sometimes 8th day resupply ammo,med supplies, rations, one semi hot meal, maybe mail from home, once a month payroll officer would bring pay out which most would keep 0-$40 in script and send rest back to collect stateside. One busy day had three choppers shot down on extracting. When we were carrying troops to load I remember pilot reaching up and turning wipers on because 12-20 bullet holes were raining fuel and rotor wash was covering his windshield with it. We heard he made it 12 miles before having to set it down. He was in unarmed medivac but had another chopper along side firing rockets and machine guns. I was charmed, never had anything that deserved purple heart. Lid shot off canteen, bullet through shirt collar, helmet creased etc....

Not sure I would call that charmed, but under the circumstances, I guess you really were. So many lost and changed. I forgot to wish the best to your wife too. And enjoy the Mav !

 

[bgn]

Pretty straightforward solution if you need mobile power that the factory inverter won't provide: portable power station. Something like Jackery, Bluetti, GoalZero, etc. Use the truck inverter to charge the power station and run all of your devices off of that - more power, more portable, and generally with pure sine inverters built in.

Yup, lots of good options out there. I myself have a Delta 2 that I've been very happy with. I've used it for charging my phone, drone, laptop, e-saw batteries, and running Starlink (my buddy's) and a diesel heater. I even ran my air fryer off of it.

 

[Moby]

It works for me in this way. Plug my Bluetti Eb70 into 400w ,It charges it at about 180 watts. Then plug the 12 volt compressor fridge into the EB70 . Every thing stays cold and the EB70 is fully charged when it get to my camp site . I can then go about three days with no outside electrical hook up .

 

[MakinDoForNow]

It works for me in this way. Plug my Bluetti Eb70 into 400w ,It charges it at about 180 watts. Then plug the 12 volt compressor fridge into the EB70 . Every thing stays cold and the EB70 is fully charged when it get to my camp site . I can then go about three days with no outside electrical hook up .

In a prior thread someone with a bluetti reported occasional lack of charging in their hybrid and if I remember correctly it was determined the problem was the voltage range on the hybrid could exceed the input limit of the bluetti so they had to install a buck converter in front of the Bluetti.

 

[Sembazuru]

1.33 amps on the lamp side (120v)
33 amps from the 12 side !!!
(that's a lot of amps)

You sure your math is correct? I would believe about half of that number, or 15A on the 12V side, allowing for an 80% conversion efficiency.

Probably a typo or misunderstanding on @WildGrok's end. It should be 3.33A for the 120V side at full load. Allowing for about 80% conversion efficiency (no idea what the efficiency of the factory unit), the max the inverter should draw is a little under 40A on the 12V side (unless I got my math messed up). The 60A fuse quoted by someone else (too lazy to look up the attribution) is probably for the safety of the wiring. Inverters typically cut out (and there is anecdotal evidence of this on the Mav factory inverter) if you try to pull too much power out of it, so the fuse and 12V wiring should only ever see about 40A. Note that there is 1 inverter and 2 AC plugs. The cabin plug and the bed plug both share the same 400W source.

 

[Ranch]

It works for me in this way. Plug my Bluetti Eb70 into 400w ,It charges it at about 180 watts. Then plug the 12 volt compressor fridge into the EB70 . Every thing stays cold and the EB70 is fully charged when it get to my camp site . I can then go about three days with no outside electrical hook up .

I don't need a 110v inverter to do the same thing. I use the 12v power point to run my 12v compressor fridge while driving. I charge my power stations before I leave and they are fully charged when I arrive at my destination.

 

[WildGrok]

Probably a typo or misunderstanding on @WildGrok's end. It should be 3.33A for the 120V side at full load. Allowing for about 80% conversion efficiency (no idea what the efficiency of the factory unit), the max the inverter should draw is a little under 40A on the 12V side (unless I got my math messed up). The 60A fuse quoted by someone else (too lazy to look up the attribution) is probably for the safety of the wiring. Inverters typically cut out (and there is anecdotal evidence of this on the Mav factory inverter) if you try to pull too much power out of it, so the fuse and 12V wiring should only ever see about 40A. Note that there is 1 inverter and 2 AC plugs. The cabin plug and the bed plug both share the same 400W source.

Stand corrected, typo, 3.33amps at 120v (assuming 100% efficiency for simplicity)

 

[mav_kev]

I don't need a 110v inverter to do the same thing. I use the 12v power point to run my 12v compressor fridge while driving. I charge my power stations before I leave and they are fully charged when I arrive at my destination.

Also a fine strategy - my backseat is normally full if I have the fridge along and I have yet to put a 12v outlet in the bed. Either way, I personally still like having the power station in between for any extended stops en route to the destination.

 

[Moby]

Also a fine strategy - my backseat is normally full if I have the fridge along and I have yet to put a 12v outlet in the bed. Either way, I personally still like having the power station in between for any extended stops en route to the destination.

I agree , not sure the reason ford recommends not running a fridge directly . I can do the Ranch method too . But if I am not going home after three days its a fail. On my last camping trip it was cold and raining in the mornings . I would make coffee and climb in the truck . Running the motor for half an hour heated me up and topped off the EB70.

 

[Decayed]

Which is cheaper to install, I would bet on that.

It's modified. Found out the hard way. But you are right, cost was likely driving that decision.

 

[Decayed]

And most are -

It takes like 6-8 hours to cook something in a crock. Will you be running your truck the entire time?

 

[Nw_adventure]

2.5 easy - No problem.

 

[Solostian]

Regarding the Hybrid Mav's 110v outlet, the verdict has been, for me, well established : it is underwhelming.

I am currently toying with the idea of using a rechargeable power station (like one from Ecoflow) for my needs instead. Can any of you tell if I can use the 110v outlet as a trickle charger for the power station?

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Regarding the Hybrid Mav's 110v outlet, the verdict has been, for me, well established : it is underwhelming.

I am currently toying with the idea of using a rechargeable power station (like one from Ecoflow) for my needs instead. Can any of you tell if I can use the 110v outlet as a trickle charger for the power station?

Much more efficient to find a DC supply. The 110 inverter is only 3.33 amps and since it is modified most likely only get 80% of that after conversion. If you do use the 110 to input to your rechargable power station check it to see if it will accept modified sine wave input. Some power stations will only accept 10 amps but have dual dc input plugs so those can accept 2 inputs of 10 and each. A solar rechargable power station might accept a faster charge rate. Check threads for what some have done.

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