Long McArthur Ford is gettting ZERO allocations for at least this coming month.

[palmtreefrb]

But LM WAS given a number a year ago which Ford indeed held them to so really "allocations" isnt such a mystery if Ford said - for 2023 we are giving you 200 Mavericks with the mix and constraints we have announced. LM would have to adjust the orders such as less hybrids or more XLTs or Lariats but it seems like they WAY over ordered for MY23.

No, Ford did not announce the new allocation calculations until "AFTER" the my23 order banks closed.

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[Old Hickory Trojan]

Watched Tim's Livestream and this is what I got out of it:

The allocation system is different for only one Ford vehicle and that is the Maverick.

The allocation system for the Maverick was only disclosed after the MY23 order banks closed.

When it was disclosed it stated what allocations would be for each dealership for the entire year.

Last year when those yearly allocation numbers were disclosed for various dealerships many were shocked about the low number for the mega dealerships

The yearly allocation number for the Maverick for each dealership was based on historical number of previous sales:

28% on Escape Sales
28% on Ranger Sales
14% on Bronko Sales
30% on Maverick Sales

LM accounts for 75% of all Maverick sales in the region so all the other dealerships in the region suffered as they only got the remaining 25%.

Dallas is in the LM region.

With zero allocations for LM probably for the rest of the model year means that the other dealerships in the region have a good chance that their orders will be scheduled.

My dealer just informed me yesterday the my order for the first time is being previewed.

My belief is that it only happened because LM was not sucking up all the allocations for the entire region.

In 2021 when mega dealerships were promoting $3000 under invoice pricing they did so because they thought they could game the allocation system by juicing Maverick sales to get more allocations in future model years.

Ford saw this and adjusted the allocations to allow smaller/other dealerships a chance to have their orders built.

I know LM wasn't one of those who tried to game the system they just got caught in the crossfire.

He also mentioned the "funny" business Ford pulled to cancel 2000 orders that had COVP. They fought with Ford over 18 they had cancelled and Ford agreed to re-instate them. He mentioned that there will probably b a bunch of dealers that either don't know or won't push back on why they were cancelled. The cancellations had something todo with changes from the original order that Ford would not accept COVP or not..

 

[commadorebob]

Most likely but note Tim said Ford changed the way they do allocations when it comes to using the sales of other vehicles such as previously they used a high percentage of trucks sales in their formulation and they changed it to now the Ford Escape is a big deal...so the ix for allocations changed and Tim said he expected their allocation numbers to drop accordingly. At least thats how I interpreted it

It makes sense, in a way. With a new vehicle, you have a chicken-egg situation. You can't use sales history of a vehicle that didn't exist to determine how many of that vehicle you should get. Using the Escape, Bronco Sport, and Ranger does make a difference because the markets in which those vehicles are being sold in a abundance will be the markets in which Ford is targeting.

 

[huunvubu]

He also mentioned the "funny" business Ford pulled to cancel 2000 orders that had COVP. They fought with Ford over 18 they had cancelled and Ford agreed to re-instate them. He mentioned that there will probably b a bunch of dealers that either don't know or won't push back on why they were cancelled. The cancellations had something todo with changes from the original order that Ford would not accept COVP or not..

Do you have the time mark in his video where he discusses the canceled COVP orders.

 

[paneubert]

Did they get any 2023 orders fulfilled? Or just rollovers?

I had a 23 order and am picking up tomorrow.

 

[Redneck Garage]

No, Ford did not announce the new allocation calculations until "AFTER" the my23 order banks closed.

What's your point ? If LM was told after placing all the orders that you're only going to get 200 Mavericks for the year and they took orders for 700 at some point folks should have been told before the year is ended - hey we took way too many orders. As I said this whole thing is a dumpster fire. You have Ford accepting Probably double the number of orders then they could produce and then dealerships placing double the reservations than the allocations that they're going to get.

 

[Old Man]

Tim said no Maverick orders have been canceled yet but moved to priority 99. Other models (think he said Bronco) have had that done and sat there for months without being canceled. So the approximate 10% of unscheduled Maverick orders that weren't COVP'd or had another issue are sitting at the end of the line.

And Ford's future plan to add PC to include 3 - 9 for retail orders doesn't do much. Just means a finer division of the dealer's orders but many dealers just leave them at the default PC 19 when they enter an order.

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

Tim said no Maverick orders have been canceled yet but moved to priority 99. Other models (think he said Bronco) have had that done and sat there for months without being canceled. So the approximate 10% of unscheduled Maverick orders that weren't COVP'd or had another issue are sitting at the end of the line.

And Ford's future plan to add PC to include 3 - 9 for retail orders doesn't do much. Just means a finer division of the dealer's orders but many dealers just leave them at the default PC 19 when they enter an order.

Look for the ""Is It True" Segment.....pretty clear 99 is canelled as far as Tim was concerned...which IMHO explains the 2000 orders canceled...

(65) Long McArthur Live: Maverick Under Hood Fire Recall and Ford Nationals Recap - YouTube

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

Do you have the time mark in his video where he discusses the canceled COVP orders.

See this one...under "Is It True"
(65) Long McArthur Live: Maverick Under Hood Fire Recall and Ford Nationals Recap - YouTube

 

[palmtreefrb]

What's your point ? If LM was told after placing all the orders that you're only going to get 200 Mavericks for the year and they took orders for 700 at some point folks should have been told before the year is ended - hey we took way too many orders. As I said this whole thing is a dumpster fire. You have Ford accepting Probably double the number of orders then they could produce and then dealerships placing double the reservations than the allocations that they're going to get.

Sorry assumed you have tuned into his weekly podcast. Tim has kept everyone updated on the allocation fiasco. He has indicated not all my23 orders will be scheduled and would need to be reordered for my24. That was my point.

 

[huunvubu]

See this one...under "Is It True"
(65) Long McArthur Live: Maverick Under Hood Fire Recall and Ford Nationals Recap - YouTube

Thanks for the link

And WOW it sure does looks like a lot of previously valid COVP orders where the customer changed body code will end up canceled.

LM was on top of this and still had 10 canceled and had to get those 10 reinstated. A lot of dealers will probably not do that and will have many unhappy customers.

That said those 10 orders at LM that got reinstated probably won't get built since LM has 0 allocations for the rest of the model year.

 

[Zjr]

I registered just to add my $0.02 on local dealerships.

I called and emailed 6 "local dealerships" in a 50 mile radius of my home and work along with 2 in my hometown in FL and LM... the only one that contacted me back was LM. Yes, I was ready to put 9 down payments for all of them, for those willing to work with me. I have 1 COVPd order at LM as a result of my efforts. No one else wanted to place an order and I contacted each one the day before ordering. I also contacted 3 the day after ordering. 8 "local" dealerships didn't want to go through the "hassle" of ordering a vehicle. This is for a 23.

So not all of them deserve ANY allocations. I am one of the many that will probably not be built.

There is no real good way for any of this. I am upset but not mad. I will still try for a 24 but don't expect to receive that one either.

Those that are B#%%#@ about larger dealerships, willing to ship a vehicle out or deal with out of state buyer, there is always a 2nd side to the story, if not 3rd or 4th etc.

Just for those that won't think I have any merit, here is a background:
I am a purchaser for a VERY large organization, personally purchasing 100-500 items on avg per week and the Mfg is to blame here, no one else, except those not willing to do what they signed up for and refusing to take any orders... yes I was able to get ahold of a few after the order banks closed.



Here, I have 4 cents total...
The only way to help would be to have people create an online account on ford, receiving a number of sorts. Registering your choice of options. This should also limit one per actual person per day. They in turn bring this to a dealership of their choice. Order placed. Ford allocates stock at this point. Once they hit their actual limit people are then placed on a list and contacted on a first come first served basis on what they want.

Great, but what happens when a MFG doesn't come through with allocations of an item? What happens if there is a shortage? Well, that is why they have the best possible process for this piss poor situation.

And before you say anything, LM sent me an email saying they are going to call me, but they don't expect me to receive a vehicle. That is GOOD customer service. No expectations, except proper communication.


@fordvideoguy I need to borrow your soapbox for a min. Thanks.

 

[paneubert]

LM was on top of this and still had 10 canceled and had to get those 10 reinstated. A lot of dealers will probably not do that and will have many unhappy customers.

That said those 10 orders at LM that got reinstated probably won't get built since LM has 0 allocations for the rest of the model year.

Yep. Which is why I stand by my comment a lot earlier in this thread about Ford saying "Here is a nice kick in the crotch Long McArthur. Thanks for all you do for our customers!"

 

[ListedGuru]

I believe it would be Bill Brown in Livonia. Last I checked it was the biggest dealer the last couple years...

I ordered mine from there and so far nothing, but I wasn't a roll over and ordered an XL hybrid so I lost hope back in Oct lol. I did check with Ford chat yesterday and they said my order is still processing, and is unscheduled/clean. So at least it wasn't canceled, which shows the covp was done correctly.

Yes its is BB in Livonia. Like I mentioned luckily my wife got a 23 Escape Hybrid which suits us better and I really don't want my Maverick at this point anyway. I would be shocked if either of the two orders even get built but you never know I guess. What a mess.

 

[OleFordGuy]

Sad, but i would assume there's a whole lot more than just those 10 at LM that won't get scheduled/built. Hopefully, those folks will hang with Tim since i would imagine he will give all those a more urgent priority on the new my24 orders than the brand new my24 orders that weren't in line during my23.

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