Chapman/Horsham -- 2022MY to 2023MY rollover orders

[macaroni_life]

This is the End?

• Given what happened to Dave_in_PA's friend, I would get your Ford private offer ahead of time. chilicoke has a good post for anyone having issues with their offer - https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...-my22-to-my23-private-offer.29833/post-552720
• The first thing I did once I had a salesman (Matt) assigned to my final sale, I sent him my Ford private certificate and farmer's bureau discount #. Later that day he confirmed everything was applied to my purchase agreement.
• The biggest PITA I had was my local credit union, They wanted a purchase agreement signed plus my insurance binder and MA RTA (registry and title) form. Getting that together while getting a flight, a ride to the airport, etc. all in the same day was painful. I got mortgages with less effort but they had me locked in at 3.99% for 60 which was too good to pass up.
• Not sure if anyone has posted this before but Horsham is a 45min drive from the airport. I know other members posted that Chapman will send you a lyft to the dealership but I was going to my hotel first and picking up the Mav the next morning. I just asked Matt about recommendations to getting to my hotel from the airport and he said just call me when you land and I will get you a Lyft ride. That was a $75 ride so I was more than happy to accept it.
• The next day I went in and it took about 45mins in and out, with 10 of those mins was me outside checking out the Mav.
• Overall, it was a really good experience and I would order through them again.

Did you fight to get the "Mid-year Price Increase Retail Protection" that chilicoke mentioned? Wondering if that's a battle worth putting effort into for the $500 difference.

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[ssumass]

Did you fight to get the "Mid-year Price Increase Retail Protection" that chilicoke mentioned? Wondering if that's a battle worth putting effort into for the $500 difference.

No, at this point it didn't seem worth the fight and as @EM33 pointed out to me Chapman did note it in their 2022 rollover email.
*Our pricing program under invoice will not be combined with any manufacturer price protection programs…the POC/DORA may not be the final invoice price & only an estimate based on the current pricing guide from Ford/Stellantis…Ford/Stellantis occasionally has price increases during the course of production…once the vehicle lands on the ground, we will provide you a copy of the invoice from Ford/Stellantis & will honor our % under invoice in this email thread.*

 

[EM33]

I wasn't a rollover, so not sure if all you that were are eligible for that or not. Glad you got your truck home safe and sound!

 

[theway-yay-ting]

Just for fun, I'll keep asking them on progress on the unscheduled orders. Here's the latest after last week's round...

Date	Allocation Month	Hybrid Sched (Total)	EB Sched (Total)	Hybrid Unsched	EB Unsched	Total Unsched
9/30/22	N/A	0 (0)	0 (0)	219	79	298
11/1/22	Oct	13 (13)	3 (3)	206	76	282
11/14/22	Oct (cleanup)	13 (26)	9 (12)	193	67	260
11/22/22	Nov?	18 (44)	3 (15)	175	64	239
12/3/22	Nov	6 (50)	14 (29)	169	50	219
12/10/22	Nov/Dec	0 (50)	4 (33)	169	46	215
1/12/23	Jan	1 (51)	9 (42)	168	37	205
1/20/23	Feb Jan	0 (~51)	0 (~42)	163	42	205
1/26/23	Jan	5 (~56)	5 (~47)	158	37	195
2/2/23	Jan	0 (~56)	0 (~47)	158	37	195
2/9/23	Feb	11 (~67)	0 (~47)	147	37	184
3/16/23	Mar	5 (~72)	0 (~47)	135	44	179
4/13/23	Apr	8 (~80)	17 (~64)	127	27	154

Of particular note, they are down to zero unscheduled rollovers (per my previous check-in with them, they had 7 unscheduled hybrid rollovers), so it's great to see that all those who waited from last year now have production dates. Here's hoping everyone gets theirs soon!

 

[HybridOnOrder]

My problem is that I had two orders with two different dealers, one local and one with Chapman. The certificate number for my local order got screwed up and has the wrong mailing zip so it doesn't populate in Smart Vincent.

When I went to pick up my order, I gave the salesman the correct one and told him to use the other zip, but being the lazy salesman he was, he just used the one that was in SmartVincent anyways which was the Chapman one.

I don't know if Chapman can fix the certificate number for the order that isn't theirs or if they would even both. I tried reaching out to Ashlie telling her I had a VIN and to check, but she said it is too early (aka too busy and won't bother until the truck comes in). I may end up having to walk away from the order because without the private offer it is no longer a deal.

Exactly the same with me. I had two orders. One cancelled from one dealership...which I am now a happy owner of.
One roll-over (no cancelled vin) with Chapman. I got my certificate # from the first order with a local dealer, no problem.

Was told from Chapman that they don't have it and also told it was TOO EARLY to look for it.
I went on Ford chat to see if I could get it using the formula.
One thing I noticed from my other dealer is their order number did not include a letter. And chapman's does. I tried to get it found by using that formula,
Sales code + 22 + Order code + 1 (or 2)

Does anyone who has already purchased from Chapman know their certificate number?
Does it have a letter in it, from your order number?

Thanks!!!

 

[macaroni_life]

Exactly the same with me. I had two orders. One cancelled from one dealership...which I am now a happy owner of.
One roll-over (no cancelled vin) with Chapman. I got my certificate # from the first order with a local dealer, no problem.

Was told from Chapman that they don't have it and also told it was TOO EARLY to look for it.
I went on Ford chat to see if I could get it using the formula.
One thing I noticed from my other dealer is their order number did not include a letter. And chapman's does. I tried to get it found by using that formula,
Sales code + 22 + Order code + 1 (or 2)

Does anyone who has already purchased from Chapman know their certificate number?
Does it have a letter in it, from your order number?

Thanks!!!

I literally just got off the phone with Ford Marketing that @ssumass recommended checking with. My $2,750 certificate is in the system and the certificate number matches that formula to a T.

I also asked about the "Mid-year Price Increase Retail Protection" for the $500 February increase and the lady didn't seem to know about it. She said the private offer was for the price protection, but when I said there was a separate price increase in February, she said it was up to the dealer to honor that.

 

[HybridOnOrder]

I literally just got off the phone with Ford Marketing that @ssumass recommended checking with. My $2,750 certificate is in the system and the certificate number matches that formula to a T.

I also asked about the "Mid-year Price Increase Retail Protection" for the $500 February increase and the lady didn't seem to know about it. She said the private offer was for the price protection, but when I said there was a separate price increase in February, she said it was up to the dealer to honor that.

Hey,

Did your certificate number include a letter? My order number w Chapman is R127....I just didn't know whether to include the 'r' or have a number instead of a letter.

Thanks!

 

[macaroni_life]

Hey,

Did your certificate number include a letter? My order number w Chapman is R127....I just didn't know whether to include the 'r' or have a number instead of a letter.

Thanks!

Yup, it included the "R".

 

[ListedGuru]

As he was selling his car to Carmax on Friday, he saw a 2022 used Maverick on their lot for $35,000. As mad and frustrated as he was, he was still getting if for 4% below dealer invoice. In addition, Ford (not Chapman) found him a $750 rebate. So yes, he purcahsed it and is hoping to get the rest of the rebate from Ford. However, he is not holding his breath.

I ordered mine a week before him so I'm nervous this crap will happen to me as well. I do feel pretty confident as my private offer matches exactly the way fordvideoguy explained in this post:

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...-your-private-offer-certificate-number.28078/

I assume all the Chapman hybrids have the following private transition offer number:

1603922XXXX1...replace xxx with your order number as stated below.

"The certificate number has 12 digits. The first 5 is the the dealer code based on the dealership your 22 order was submitted. This would be found on your order sheet.

The next 2 numbers are 22. The year of your order.

The next 4 numbers are the order number on your 22MY order. Also found on your order sheet.

The last number is 1 or 2. Since an order number can be used twice, one for a W8E body code (FWD) and one for a W8F body code (AWD). They would have to try 1 first and if it does pull then try 2."

Any idea what this $750 rebate is that your buddy got from Ford?

 

[skadizzle]

Exactly the same with me. I had two orders. One cancelled from one dealership...which I am now a happy owner of.
One roll-over (no cancelled vin) with Chapman. I got my certificate # from the first order with a local dealer, no problem.

Was told from Chapman that they don't have it and also told it was TOO EARLY to look for it.
I went on Ford chat to see if I could get it using the formula.
One thing I noticed from my other dealer is their order number did not include a letter. And chapman's does. I tried to get it found by using that formula,
Sales code + 22 + Order code + 1 (or 2)

Does anyone who has already purchased from Chapman know their certificate number?
Does it have a letter in it, from your order number?

Thanks!!!

My problem is that the Chapman certificate number was in the system, but the local one that I picked up already wasn't. I was able to get the certificate number and is under a different zip so it doesn't show in Smart Vincent. I'm hoping Chapman will be able to add that certificate into the order becaue the one for their order is already used by my dumbass local dealer who took the easy way and used it instead of fixing theirs.

 

[ssumass]

Exactly the same with me. I had two orders. One cancelled from one dealership...which I am now a happy owner of.
One roll-over (no cancelled vin) with Chapman. I got my certificate # from the first order with a local dealer, no problem.

Was told from Chapman that they don't have it and also told it was TOO EARLY to look for it.
I went on Ford chat to see if I could get it using the formula.
One thing I noticed from my other dealer is their order number did not include a letter. And chapman's does. I tried to get it found by using that formula,
Sales code + 22 + Order code + 1 (or 2)

Does anyone who has already purchased from Chapman know their certificate number?
Does it have a letter in it, from your order number?

Thanks!!!

I had a "R" in my cert too.

 

[Dave_in_PA]

OK, unless something crazy happens, this will be the final update on my buddy.

He got a call today from Ford and/or Chapman (I can't remember) that they found(?) his $2,750 private offer and will be mailing it to him.

All's well that ends well.

..................................

@HybridOnOrder, my private offer has an "R" in it too.

 

[Dave_in_PA]

Any idea what this $750 rebate is that your buddy got from Ford?

He had no idea.

 

[theway-yay-ting]

OK, unless something crazy happens, this will be the final update on my buddy.

He got a call today from Ford and/or Chapman (I can't remember) that they found(?) his $2,750 private offer and will be mailing it to him.

All's well that ends well.

..................................

@HybridOnOrder, my private offer has an "R" in it too.

Great news for him!!!

 

[HybridOnOrder]

OK, unless something crazy happens, this will be the final update on my buddy.

He got a call today from Ford and/or Chapman (I can't remember) that they found(?) his $2,750 private offer and will be mailing it to him.

All's well that ends well.

..................................

@HybridOnOrder, my private offer has an "R" in it too.

awesome!!! hopefully they also let him keep the $750 offer they found. Then your friend would be ahead of the game.

I think I saw on a live-stream that those $750 offers are incitements for customers who previously bought ford's or who are in their marketing stream to help them decide to buy.

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