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Hopefully there is a picture available for the Eibach adjustable arms
I don’t see anywhere that they are lower arms… I feel if they were they’d be more than $275
I hope they are different than the SPC upper adjustable control arms, because those only work for lifts
I just emailed Eibach to see if they're compatible. Good point though, I just assumed it'd be an adjustable lower control arm. We'll see what they come back with though.
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I just emailed Eibach to see if they're compatible. Good point though, I just assumed it'd be an adjustable lower control arm. We'll see what they come back with though.
@2016BoostedGreyGoose confirmed they are rebranded SPC upper control arms

Those will not work in a lowered application without notching the frame
 
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@2016BoostedGreyGoose confirmed they are rebranded SPC upper control arms

Those will not work in a lowered application without notching the frame
Here is the response I got from Eibach. I was looking for a simple yes or no that their lowering springs are/are not compatible with their camber arm kit, but it seems they're either unable or unwilling to give a direct response to my question. I'm not asking about coilovers, I'm asking about their products. If they don't know because they haven't tested them together, that would be an acceptable response.


Me: Is the PRO-ALIGNMENT Camber Arm Kit part number 5.67435K compatible with the PRO-KIT Performance Springs part number E10-35-057-02-22? This is for a 2022 Ford Maverick AWD. Thank you.

Eibach: Yes, the camber arms are specified for the AWD Ford Maverick.

Me: I understand they are for the AWD Maverick, my question is if they are compatible with your lowering springs. Other Maverick owners are claiming that your camber arm kit is a rebrand of the SPC camber arms and that they are not compatible with lowered applications without notching the frame. Can you confirm if this is true or not? Thank you for your time.

Eibach: The only time I've heard of a required modification to the frame is when using coilovers that created a clearance issue, which I would assume is on drops or lowering amounts exceeding the full compression of the stock vehicle.
 

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Here is the response I got from Eibach. I was looking for a simple yes or no that their lowering springs are/are not compatible with their camber arm kit, but it seems they're either unable or unwilling to give a direct response to my question. I'm not asking about coilovers, I'm asking about their products. If they don't know because they haven't tested them together, that would be an acceptable response.


Me: Is the PRO-ALIGNMENT Camber Arm Kit part number 5.67435K compatible with the PRO-KIT Performance Springs part number E10-35-057-02-22? This is for a 2022 Ford Maverick AWD. Thank you.

Eibach: Yes, the camber arms are specified for the AWD Ford Maverick.

Me: I understand they are for the AWD Maverick, my question is if they are compatible with your lowering springs. Other Maverick owners are claiming that your camber arm kit is a rebrand of the SPC camber arms and that they are not compatible with lowered applications without notching the frame. Can you confirm if this is true or not? Thank you for your time.

Eibach: The only time I've heard of a required modification to the frame is when using coilovers that created a clearance issue, which I would assume is on drops or lowering amounts exceeding the full compression of the stock vehicle.
Well that is not a good answer

Just know from people that have tried that it won’t work
Perhaps with a small drop the camber arm MIGHT be ok…. But if you end up bottoming out for some reason the arm will impact the frame rail before the suspension compresses fully
That seems like a terrible idea
 
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Well that is not a good answer

Just know from people that have tried that it won’t work
Perhaps with a small drop the camber arm MIGHT be ok…. But if you end up bottoming out for some reason the arm will impact the frame rail before the suspension compresses fully
That seems like a terrible idea
Guess I'm just gonna be rotating tires often until someone comes out with a camber kit that works for lowered applications.
 

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@2016BoostedGreyGoose confirmed they are rebranded SPC upper control arms

Those will not work in a lowered application without notching the frame
Hey Guys just to clear this up, this only occurs on coil over kits, not with OE shocks and lowering springs.

Springs DO NOT change your total suspension travel.

SPC would not release a product that wouldn't function in the whole suspension travel of an unmodified suspension system.

Ford Maverick Eibach Lowering Springs Now Available 1669848814106


The replacement after market shocks that come with coil over kits will most likely have a shorter body to allow for more bump travel to get the lowering and work with a non OE spring/adjustable perch package.

Hopefully that clears it up!
 
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Ok now we need someone to prove this

I’m very interested in this solution
 

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Hey Guys just to clear this up, this only occurs on coil over kits, not with OE shocks and lowering springs.

Springs DO NOT change your total suspension travel.

SPC would not release a product that wouldn't function in the whole suspension travel of an unmodified suspension system.

1669848814106.webp


The replacement after market shocks that come with coil over kits will most likely have a shorter body to allow for more bump travel to get the lowering and work with a non OE spring/adjustable perch package.

Hopefully that clears it up!
I guess maybe I should have clarified this a lil better. I never said they didn't work....I was STRICTLY speaking to coilover setups as I previously had H&R springs before going with coilovers
 
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I guess maybe I should have clarified this a lil better. I never said they didn't work....I was STRICTLY speaking to coilover setups as I previously had H&R springs before going with coilovers
We have a long standing relationship with SPC and have never had a fitmet issue in the past. Since the concern was brought here we went ahead and cycled the suspension with the arm and infact found that it does contact the frame with the OE rear shock. This is currently being worked on by SPC and will hopefully have an answer soon.

We did go ahead and try out another camber arm we have that we thought would work and cycled that. It didn't touch the frame so we will look into this as possibly being a solution for the mavericks.

As a side note, I have had the arms on my personal vehicle for a while now. I have towed on and off-road, carry plenty of speed through dips and have zero witness marks of contact. This is with a lift, so the contact is still possible to occur just not likely.
 
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We have a long standing relationship with SPC and have never had a fitmet issue in the past. Since the concern was brought here we went ahead and cycled the suspension with the arm and infact found that it does contact the frame with the OE rear shock. This is currently being worked on by SPC and will hopefully have an answer soon.

We did go ahead and try out another camber arm we have that we thought would work and cycled that. It didn't touch the frame so we will look into this as possibly being a solution for the mavericks.

As a side note, I have had the arms on my personal vehicle for a while now. I have towed on and off-road, carry plenty of speed through dips and have zero witness marks of contact. This is with a lift, so the contact is still possible to occur just not likely.
Thanks for the honesty. I wasn't going to say this... but in keeping true to myself, when I spoke with a few people at Eibach when I called, the 1st person was attentive and listening to what I was saying and asking. When he transferred me to a tech things changed. He was a bit arrogant and downplayed what I was asking. I'm not new to this and took one for the team ordering a set very early on from SPC directly to see it they would work with the coilover system. I was trying to be helpful and offer a suggestion for possibly a new design or addition product for our specific need. Sometimes "experts" just want to be right so much that they don't leave room for possibly being incorrect. Anyway would love to see a redesigned version of this. It absolutely allowed you to dial in that negative camber! ;)
 

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Thanks for the honesty. I wasn't going to say this... but in keeping true to myself, when I spoke with a few people at Eibach when I called, the 1st person was attentive and listening to what I was saying and asking. When he transferred me to a tech things changed. He was a bit arrogant and downplayed what I was asking. I'm not new to this and took one for the team ordering a set very early on from SPC directly to see it they would work with the coilover system. I was trying to be helpful and offer a suggestion for possibly a new design or addition product for our specific need. Sometimes "experts" just want to be right so much that they don't leave room for possibly being incorrect. Anyway would love to see a redesigned version of this. It absolutely allowed you to dial in that negative camber! ;)
You can imagine the kind of calls our Tech line deals with daily, not being arrogant just trying to relay to best information we had.

Without the arms we saw about 1.6-2° of negative camber which isn't a crazy amount, I had about 4-5K miles like that with no abnormal tire wear on my all terrains.
 

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You can imagine the kind of calls our Tech line deals with daily, not being arrogant just trying to relay to best information we had.

Without the arms we saw about 1.6-2° of negative camber which isn't a crazy amount, I had about 4-5K miles like that with no abnormal tire wear on my all terrains.
While I agree, as a small business owner, the kinds of calls recieved daily by a tech line is not an excuse to turn off active listening and turn of arrogance. This is my experience. I get it they are human, but they accepted that job as a tech. They owe each and every call their very best...if it isn't in them, perhaps a career change is in order.

Again, if it was just a bad day, sure I can let it go with that. I don't know what was going on with the young man on the other end of the line so I leave room for being human. 😉
 
 







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