Add 2023 Navigation version to a 2022 Lariat Lux?

[triangulumhalohydra]

The '23's have a nav option and I assume there have been no hardware changes. Has anyone seen any indication that adding nav will be possible on the 22 Lariat Lux's?

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[Maverick2022XL]

The '23's have a nav option and I assume there have been no hardware changes. Has anyone seen any indication that adding nav will be possible on the 22 Lariat Lux's?

You can add it on all models with some modifications. In your case you'll need to swap out your APIM with one that has Sync3 and Navigation. You'll also need to figure out if you need to wire in another antenna or not for Navigation. Look in the electrical and DIY sections for tutorials on how to add an APIM module to these trucks.

 

[Spook]

It's not the 23 version but this one will be much easier to "install" and connect. Order the long power cord and extra memory. It has a windshield suction cup mount. I put one in mine and it works great.
https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/669167/pn/010-02036-07
Also, scroll down to the last paragraph in my post here:
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/no-drill-ham-radio-and-antenna-installation.23636/
This device can be installed in all models and cars that have a lighter power outlet, not just a Maverick Lariat.

 

[Dad]

The '23's have a nav option and I assume there have been no hardware changes. Has anyone seen any indication that adding nav will be possible on the 22 Lariat Lux's?

I think it's always a good idea to have a back-up navigation system to your phone's GPS whether you opt for a separate satellite based unit or somehow incorporate it into the Maverick's electronics. Satellite based much more reliable and better coverage than cell tower especially in remote areas.
I just know I'm going to get some disagreement on this. Last time I mentioned this, some people came unglued telling me one doesn't need cell tower reception for phone GPS. Unless you've downloaded the map area to your phone's memory, of course you do.

 

[Spook]

I think it's always a good idea to have a back-up navigation system to your phone's GPS whether you opt for a separate satellite based unit or somehow incorporate it into the Maverick's electronics. Satellite based much more reliable and better coverage than cell tower especially in remote areas.
I just know I'm going to get some disagreement on this. Last time I mentioned this, some people came unglued telling me one doesn't need cell tower reception for phone GPS. Unless you've downloaded the map area to your phone's memory, of course you do.

The Garmin unit is satellite based and has been around for a long time. As long as you have it near the windsheild and it has access to satellites, you are good to go.

 

[Dad]

The Garmin unit is satellite based and has been around for a long time. As long as you have it near the windsheild and it has access to satellites, you are good to go.

Exactly. That was my thinking and I thought the mostly useless cubby hole next to the screen would be a good place to install a mount for said Garmin.

 

[Maverick2022XL]

I think it's always a good idea to have a back-up navigation system to your phone's GPS whether you opt for a separate satellite based unit or somehow incorporate it into the Maverick's electronics. Satellite based much more reliable and better coverage than cell tower especially in remote areas.
I just know I'm going to get some disagreement on this. Last time I mentioned this, some people came unglued telling me one doesn't need cell tower reception for phone GPS. Unless you've downloaded the map area to your phone's memory, of course you do.

In the case of the Ford Navigation system the region maps are downloaded onto the APIM so they can work offline. What I don't know is if the Sync 3 versions are subscription based or not. Sync4 Connected Navigation systems are subscription based and you have to pay every 3 years to keep it working.

 

[Dad]

In the case of the Ford Navigation system the region maps are downloaded onto the APIM so they can work offline. What I don't know is if the Sync 3 versions are subscription based or not. Sync4 Connected Navigation systems are subscription based and you have to pay every 3 years to keep it working.

Good to know. Thank you!

 

[Maverick2022XL]

The Garmin unit is satellite based and has been around for a long time. As long as you have it near the windsheild and it has access to satellites, you are good to go.

This is what I use too, it is a one time pay for the unit and lifetime maps. You can also load third party maps onto a Garmin though no one offers a full openstreetmap US map formatted for download. The nice thing about that is if you off road you can load a topo map of the area and enable trip log to record the routes you take.

 

[mav_kev]

I would echo the others that have mentioned a standalone Garmin unit, especially if you like to venture off-pavement. I think the time/money/headache of upgrading your OE system would be pretty easily offset by the ease of investing in a standalone unit.

 

[CZaugg]

You can add it on all models with some modifications. In your case you'll need to swap out your APIM with one that has Sync3 and Navigation. You'll also need to figure out if you need to wire in another antenna or not for Navigation. Look in the electrical and DIY sections for tutorials on how to add an APIM module to these trucks.

Seems it would be much easier to just use Google Maps.

 

[Spook]

Seems it would be much easier to just use Google Maps.

Google maps require internet access, Garmin does not. It gets its info direct from the satellites.

 

[jsus]

Google maps require internet access, Garmin does not. It gets its info direct from the satellites.

Garmin GPS navigators use locally stored map data. Updating said map data requires connecting to an internet-connected computer. They do receive location and traffic data via satellite.

https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/drive52/EN-US/GUID-AB01F4C7-F1B1-4169-BC92-A222FF8344EC.html

Some smartphone navigation apps, such as Google Maps and HERE Wego, allow for map data to be downloaded, as part of their Offline Maps functionality. That caches the map itself and any relevant POIs in the cached region.

HERE WeGo even allows you to choose entire states, countries, or continents to cache, allowing an identical offline experience to a Garmin device short of access to traffic data.

They also tend to cache some amount of data when the device is online, in case you lose an internet connection during the drive.

These apps get their location data from the device, which relies on a combination of nearby Wi-Fi networks (at least on Android devices), cell towers, and those exact same GPS satellites your Garmin device uses. They cannot, however, receive traffic data via satellite; that does require a live connection to the internet.

 

[Spook]

Garmin GPS navigators use locally stored map data. Updating said map data requires connecting to an internet-connected computer. They do receive location and traffic data via satellite.

https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/drive52/EN-US/GUID-AB01F4C7-F1B1-4169-BC92-A222FF8344EC.html

Some smartphone navigation apps, such as Google Maps and HERE Wego, allow for map data to be downloaded, as part of their Offline Maps functionality. That caches the map itself and any relevant POIs in the cached region.

HERE WeGo even allows you to choose entire states, countries, or continents to cache, allowing an identical offline experience to a Garmin device short of access to traffic data.

They also tend to cache some amount of data when the device is online, in case you lose an internet connection during the drive.

These apps get their location data from the device, which relies on a combination of nearby Wi-Fi networks (at least on Android devices), cell towers, and those exact same GPS satellites your Garmin device uses. They cannot, however, receive traffic data via satellite; that does require a live connection to the internet.

Correct on the traffic data on the Garmin device. The Garmin I use does not have that option because I don't live in a metro area anymore. I do take it inside and do downloads to update my maps but that's not an immediate requirement. I think it is months between updates. Basically, Garmin is the simplest way for navigation and also the cheapest.

 

[Maverick2022XL]

Another app for Android and IOS is OSMAnd. They use openstreetmaps They also support offline maps. It is free but not with the full features. The pay version is OSMAnd+. There is also an opensource full featured version called OsmAnd~ that is free of any google dependencies and available at the F-Droid repository. It is considered one of the best offline GPS phone apps out there.

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