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I picked up on Tim not wanting to discuss allocations the other night as well. Allocation rules change by the day. Personally, I do not give a damn what they say today as it will change a ton of times before and IF my Maverick comes in.

On the bright side, got sick of waiting for the dealer to change my email address to the correct one after two weeks so I contacted Ford myself and got it done with their help of course.
Great Idea! My email wasn't included on my order so I have never received any confirmation emails, and while my sales person says it has been updated in the system, verifying with Ford seems like the way to go.
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I wonder how much the flavor of Maverick is playing into the allocations. As hybrids are less popular in the South, will they get more allocations since Ford already said 65% of the trucks will be EcoBoost?
 

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I wonder how much the flavor of Maverick is playing into the allocations. As hybrids are less popular in the South, will they get more allocations since Ford already said 65% of the trucks will be EcoBoost?
Roll a pair of dice on a velvet covered table. Snake eyes? More allocations. Box cars? Less. Can't go wrong. It is what Ford does. :ROFLMAO: :D :cry:
 

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Tim doesn't wanna talk allocations because they "ain't good" for Long McArthur. All dealers had a rough idea of the allocation/commodity situation before order banks opened and LM chose to ignore it.. That very information was even posted publicly on this forum. This was LM's choice to take more hybrid orders alone than they were awarded total allocation in 2022 and I do not see 2023 going very well for them. I appreciate the information Tim shares, he does a lot for us, but this was not the right move for LM.

For a dealer who stayed in their lane and worked with the little bit of information that Ford gave, that type of dealer will be just fine. That's likely the type of dealer OP is working with. Being one of 26 orders at a dealer who receives 30 allocations will be a very different experience than being the 600th hybrid order at a dealership that will be lucky to recieve 300 hybrids over the next year..
Hello fellow Floridian! I hope you’re doing okay after this rather stressful rash of weather, and all.

I have to humbly disagree with you as this is Ford’s system that they created and Long McArthur is just playing the game. I don’t think Tim should be the face of Long McArthur’s business strategy. Ford prioritizes dealerships that turn over inventory and if Long McArthur wants to take a bunch of orders, fine. I don’t look harshly on Tim or Long McArthur for “playing the game”, to get future allocations.

There is no disputing that dealerships that sell more get more allocations. I only want the OP to temper their optimism with a little pinch of cynicism.
 
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I wonder how much the flavor of Maverick is playing into the allocations. As hybrids are less popular in the South, will they get more allocations since Ford already said 65% of the trucks will be EcoBoost?
Hybrids are more popular in the warmer climates, TX, CA and FL too. They sell way more in these regions.
 

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Roll a pair of dice on a velvet covered table. Snake eyes? More allocations. Box cars? Less. Can't go wrong. It is what Ford does. :ROFLMAO: :D :cry:
I'm just saying a southern dealer with 40 EcoBoost will likely get more allocation than a California dealer with 40 Hybrids given the constraints percentages Ford provided.

Hybrids are more popular in the warmer climates, FL and CA. They sell way more in these regions.
Not from Florida so cannot speak to it. But I can see the hybrids being more popular in the peninsula than the panhandle. At least until the Fx4 option comes to the hybrid.
 

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Regarding Tim not wanting to talk about allocations it was my impression that Ford Corporate may have “suggested” that the information should not be made public.
Just my uneducated assumption
 

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I'm wondering, if I want a Bronco 4-door with a hard top and manual transmission to replace the Maverick Tremor I hope to get sometime in 2023, should I go ahead and order it now so I might get scheduled by 2025 or 2026? :ROFLMAO:

Only half joking...
Well, you’d have to re-order in (twice) by 2025, so you can just wait. After all, the chip shortage will surely be over by then, right? Bueller? Bueller?
 

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I'm just saying a southern dealer with 40 EcoBoost will likely get more allocation than a California dealer with 40 Hybrids given the constraints percentages Ford provided.



Not from Florida so cannot speak to it. But I can see the hybrids being more popular in the peninsula than the panhandle. At least until the Fx4 option comes to the hybrid.

I hear you! Hybrids aren’t everyone’s cup-of-tea but what makes the Maverick appealing is its price paramount and second, it’s utility. If you want a real truck, this isn’t for you. At the risk of offending others, I don’t care what they slap a Tremor badge on; This is an economy, unibody SUV with an open trunk, not a real off-road vehicle. It is what it is, do what it was designed to do best, get good gas mileage and be practical.
 

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Regarding Tim not wanting to talk about allocations it was my impression that Ford Corporate may have “suggested” that the information should not be made public.
Just my uneducated assumption
This was my takeaway too. Dealers were likely told not to publicly share allocations. He has 700+ orders to fill, with about 10% of those being rollovers. He isn’t going to be happy with any allocation. I’d wager they got right at about 60 or so, which will just cover his rollovers. He and other large dealers have long year ahead of them dealing with Ford’s inconsistent messaging.
 
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This was my takeaway too. Dealers were likely told not to publicly share allocations. He has 700+ orders to fill, with about 10% of those being rollovers. He isn’t going to be happy with any allocation. I’d wager they got right at about 60 or so, which will just cover his rollovers. He and other large dealers have long year ahead of them dealing with Ford’s inconsistent messaging.
He stated there were 63 for the first month to cover 22 rollover orders. The numbers must not be as good for subsequent months. Also i think there was something like 80 rollovers in total.
 

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This was my takeaway too. Dealers were likely told not to publicly share allocations. He has 700+ orders to fill, with about 10% of those being rollovers. He isn’t going to be happy with any allocation. I’d wager they got right at about 60 or so, which will just cover his rollovers. He and other large dealers have long year ahead of them dealing with Ford’s inconsistent messaging.
Could very well be even if Ford told him he had 800 allocations to keep that to himself... just in case. No sense getting people's hopes up in the event another parts shortage rears its ugly head.
 

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Could very well be even if Ford told him he had 800 allocations to keep that to himself... just in case. No sense getting people's hopes up in the event another parts shortage rears its ugly head.
Tim didn't divulge a number but he said they were significantly under what they expected and were likely incorrect.

He also seemed to be annoyed that they weren't based off total dealer sales like they were originally told they would be and only off sales of maverick, escape, and bs. I wasn't totally following him there.


 
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I think Ford is moving the goalposts so to speak, not a level playing field, and inconsistent at best.
 

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The dealer I'm working with in East Tennessee told me they have 37 allocations, and my order is #27 in the queue. Still, I'm not holding my breath, since my order is for a hybrid.
that's not actually how it works.

all 2023 orders are in the dealer's order bank. if they have an allocation available, Ford looks at the bank to see what can be built. the order is:
- can it be built on the scheduling date (are there parts on hand or expected to be on hand)
- is it the highest priority that can be built

so, you may well be the 27th order placed with that dealer. if you ordered something easy to build, like an XL ecoboost with no options, then you are very likely to meet the first criteria. conversely if you order a hybrid lariat lux with every option, you build is a lot less likely to be able to be built.

Ford did specifically say that XL hybrids were less likely to be built. to me that means they knew they would have more than enough hybrid orders (of course) and they're going to prefer to build XLT and Lariat.

then it's priority. this is why Ford asked (I don't know if they required - probably not) dealers to put all 22 rollovers at priority 10 and every new order some lower priority (11-19).
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