Will Ford increase production of Mavericks?

[Taxman100]

I think companies are hesitant to invest a lot of capital in facilities that are not in favor of the administrative state in D.C. We no longer live in a capitalist society, at least the type we were taught about in school.

The cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline with the stroke of a pen will make every company in the energy, transportation, fertilizer, and mining industries extremely worried they will fall victim to something similar.

So in summary - Ford will not spend the capital they need to build products people actually want. They will either invest in electric vehicles, spend it to buy back their stock, or pay dividends.

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[Timothyd]

Ford lost a lot of money paying price protection and special offers so I am sure they are trying to avoid getting into that situation again.

It would make a lot of sense to cut off orders when they have taken orders for six months production so that they can do a mid year price increase for inflation then open up the order book again if they need to.

Some lessons are learned the hard way.

 

[commadorebob]

I think companies are hesitant to invest a lot of capital in facilities that are not in favor of the administrative state in D.C. We no longer live in a capitalist society, at least the type we were taught about in school.

The cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline with the stroke of a pen will make every company in the energy, transportation, fertilizer, and mining industries extremely worried they will fall victim to something similar.

So in summary - Ford will not spend the capital they need to build products people actually want. They will either invest in electric vehicles, spend it to buy back their stock, or pay dividends.

Ford literally just announced a 5.0L V8 Mustang for 2024. Kind of a silly way to move to electric.

Not everyone lives in California. There are a lot of people living in parts of the country where electric vehicles just flat out do not make logistical sense, ignoring the actual increased cost of purchasing one. Electric vehicles are going to remain a tough sell until we can get all-day range in the South with A/C in August and the infrastructure can handle the power demand.

 

[Taxman100]

Ford literally just announced a 5.0L V8 Mustang for 2024. Kind of a silly way to move to electric.

Not everyone lives in California. There are a lot of people living in parts of the country where electric vehicles just flat out do not make logistical sense, ignoring the actual increased cost of purchasing one. Electric vehicles are going to remain a tough sell until we can get all-day range in the South with A/C in August and the infrastructure can handle the power demand.

I don't disagree. I'm just going by what Ford is doing. They are laying off 3,000 employees in the ICE engineering/design area of the company, and allegedly reinvesting that into EVs.

Those products may not be what you or I want, but I think one must realize that what customers want is no longer the driving force in decisions being made regarding our "free market" economy.

 

[commadorebob]

I don't disagree. I'm just going by what Ford is doing. They are laying off 3,000 employees in the ICE engineering/design area of the company, and allegedly reinvesting that into EVs.

Those products may not be what you or I want, but I think one must realize that what customers want is no longer the driving force in decisions being made regarding our "free market" economy.

I don't disagree they are diversifying. They were the second largest EV manufacturer last year behind Tesla and they only have two EV models. So, it makes sense to invest in that area if people are buying it. And there is demand. If the Maverick was pure electric, got 500 miles of summer a/c range, and wasn't cost prohibitive, I would be tempted to buy it. But I also work from home and a tank of gas lasts me two months in my 2006 Saturn. So, there is that.

Ford's CEO has said publicly there are segments where electric cannot replace ICE. GM is going all in on electric. Ford appears to be doing both. RAM/Dodge seem to be following Ford's lead. Even Toyota has no plans to leave the ICE business as they have been expanding their engine plant in North Alabama.

Bad policy usually corrects itself once reality sets in. Even California says you can still drive an ICE car, you just can't buy one. If I'm a Nevada dealership on the border, I start expanding my lot.

 

[hockeypukk54]

Ford has announced the construction of a new Ford mfg facility in Hermosa, Mexico to manufacture Mavericks. Unsure when that production will begin. I'm hoping my order will not be the first outta that facility!!

Where did you hear this about Ford building a new facility in Mexico? I can't find anything about this and nothing shows up on my list of Ford facilities now or in the future. Not saying it isn't true but where did you read about this?

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

EV's for everyone in the future not for me . After getting rid of the Fusion Focus Fiesta. The bronco sport and the Maverick could not support its own factories ? Are they really surprised by the demand? Why does Chevy not have a S-10 A nice Dakota would also sell great. But there is not much out there that's affordable right now?

I agree ..all electric is IMHO a Fad that statistically cannot be supported without a complete change in the processes to manufacture them and the push to clean air and this being an answer to environmental issues is a fallacy at this time...this video explains it to some extent:

 

[icegradner]

If I'm not mistaken, Ford is going to sell out of what they had set aside specifically for retail orders in less than a week. Once those are moving, then dealers can start ordering stock inventories. So, Ford wants to sell every truck they can make and if they could do so and double production at the same time, they would in a heartbeat. But I think Ford is taking the right approach on the retail orders. Get those in, lick your wounds, and then tell dealers what is left over for stock orders.

And fleet orders, which are also separate.

 

[icegradner]

I agree ..all electric is IMHO a Fad that statistically cannot be supported without a complete change in the processes to manufacture them and the push to clean air and this being an answer to environmental issues is a fallacy at this time...this video explains it to some extent:

We all know the issues with lithum, or any kind of mining for that matter. That is why scientests have been working on next generation batteries for a long time. That is the primary reason why the EV transition will take time more than anything else. The Move to EV's won't solve all the issues with the climate, there are a lot of bigger fish to fry to pull that off. The idea is to reduce pollution in the large population centers, because it is killing people. Plain and simple.

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

We all know the issues with lithum, or any kind of mining for that matter. That is why scientests have been working on next generation batteries for a long time. That is the primary reason why the EV transition will take time more than anything else. The Move to EV's won't solve all the issues with the climate, there are a lot of bigger fish to fry to pull that off. The idea is to reduce pollution in the large population centers, because it is killing people. Plain and simple.

1.) 2035 is not that far away 2.) If scientists have been working on next generation for a long time, what makes you think in 12 years they will find an answer and have it producible for mass production? 3.)Lastly, I lived in LA, California for over 50 years and I'm 75 and still alive with the polution that had been there since before I could drive. Drove the freeways for everyday of over 150 miles a day. Sorry I'm not panicking about the end of the world or the fact that electric vehicles are the answer. Did you ever consider the dangers of being in an unshielded vehicle that is powered by electricity. Not the safest situation for good health either. Check this out..and this isn't even about exposure to raw materials or where it goes when it's no longer useable
https://www.saferemr.com/2014/07/shouldnt-hybrid-and-electric-cars-be-re.html

 

[icegradner]

3.)Lastly, I lived in LA, California for over 50 years and I'm 75 and still alive with the polution that had been there since before I could drive. Drove the freeways for everyday of over 150 miles a day.

Just because we are alive, doesn't mean we are healthy. That's like saying a vehicle that hasn't had an oil change for 100k miles isn't a problem for the engine. I suppose you also smoke cigarettes, because those anecdotally don't cause health problems either, and you sit and eat pure lard and bags of sugar for every meal, because that isn't harmful to anyone at all.

I get that older people don't care, you won't be alive to live in the dirty dying world your generation has created all for profit above all else. Not all of us are 75, and we'll have to live with the consequences of choices of ours and the generations that came before us. I'm not panicked either. I'd just rather live in cleaner, fresher air, with plenty of opportunities to come when I reach 75.

 

[Old Hickory Trojan]

Just because we are alive, doesn't mean we are healthy. That's like saying a vehicle that hasn't had an oil change for 100k miles isn't a problem for the engine. I suppose you also smoke cigarettes, because those anecdotally don't cause health problems either, and you sit and eat pure lard and bags of sugar for every meal, because that isn't harmful to anyone at all.

I get that older people don't care, you won't be alive to live in the dirty dying world your generation has created all for profit above all else. Not all of us are 75, and we'll have to live with the consequences of choices of ours and the generations that came before us. I'm not panicked either. I'd just rather live in cleaner, fresher air, with plenty of opportunities to come when I reach 75.

Obviously you didn't read the attachment related to EV's or the attachment on what polutents are being added to the environment to make a battery...or considered where the waste from dumping dead batteries will leave...the thinking that this is a solution that can be implemented by 2035 and make the world a better place is a pipe dream....and the idea that fossil fuels will go away and make the world a better place is pretty dumb...and your take on past generations is warped....you are lucky those past generations provided you with what you have and instead of condeming them you should be praising them. By the way...ever look at the amount of polution the US puts into the universe compared to other leading nations? It might surprise you.....espeicialy since one of the latest reports claimed Global Warming is overstated and the timeline exaggerated......hydrogen powered vehicles would be safer then this EV craze if the Auto industry pursued it more actively...

 

[Joe Mac]

Just because we are alive, doesn't mean we are healthy. That's like saying a vehicle that hasn't had an oil change for 100k miles isn't a problem for the engine. I suppose you also smoke cigarettes, because those anecdotally don't cause health problems either, and you sit and eat pure lard and bags of sugar for every meal, because that isn't harmful to anyone at all.

I get that older people don't care, you won't be alive to live in the dirty dying world your generation has created all for profit above all else. Not all of us are 75, and we'll have to live with the consequences of choices of ours and the generations that came before us. I'm not panicked either. I'd just rather live in cleaner, fresher air, with plenty of opportunities to come when I reach 75.

Do you really think all those batteries are good for the environment?
I know more people who have sold their electric cars than bought them. You put 4 adults in a Tesla on a hot day with the air on and your range drops way off. Then you have to find a charging station that works and then sit on your ass for 2 hours to get it charged. Then if there happens to be a heat wave your asked not to charge your car
Yeah Eco Boost for me

 

[Darnon]

It's a good thing all those who've drunk deeply of the EV FUD are all so eager to share they can blurt the same tired talking points so it's easy to spot who to ignore.

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