Whose Fault?

[Snax]

As a Gen X small business owner, I have hired many Millennials. They are awesome: Hard-working, kind, creative, and eager to make the world a better place. Watching some Boomers try to blame them for the mess that Boomers left them is frustrating.

The truth about employment in America is that Boomers, a huge generation, are retiring and dying in growing numbers, leaving a lot of jobs that need filling. Gen X is small by comparison, so we can’t fill all of the seats. Millennials are a large generation, but they are relatively young and inexperienced, so it’ll take some time for them to transition. Gen Z is small, and there aren’t enough of them to fill the service jobs that are being vacated by Millennials.

In short, America is experiencing a massive demographic shift as Boomers leave the workforce. While many people want to exploit this dynamic for political purposes, the reality is far more straightforward: Boomers are leaving a vacuum at the top of the workforce, and everyone is playing musical chairs to fill it. We’ll get there eventually, but it’s been a bit rough.

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[rclee]

I blame the Pandemic, if it wasn't for that we all would be rolling around in Mavericks, Broncos, Bronco Sports and Mach E's.

There is my vote, and yes I approved this message.

 

[Dudley]

Boomers created this economy, but sure, let's blame all the lazy millennials for all of society's ills

And, what I said did not implicate a "generation", but an age group. I am a boomer, and in the 60's and early 70's when I and many I knew were in their teens and early 20's, many I knew would work long enough to draw unemployment until that unemployment was ready to run out and then repeat the cycle. All they wanted to do was have enough money to buy drugs and party. They would "crash" at someones house because they had none of their own. It was popular to have a van of some sort, maybe a small bus, and live in it and if needed, freeload off of as many people as they could.
So, you see, it isn't a "generation", but to a degree an "attitude" created that enables people.

 

[Eaglerocked]

As a Gen X small business owner, I have hired many Millennials. They are awesome: Hard-working, kind, creative, and eager to make the world a better place. Watching some Boomers try to blame them for the mess that Boomers left them is frustrating.

The truth about employment in America is that Boomers, a huge generation, are retiring and dying in growing numbers, leaving a lot of jobs that need filling. Gen X is small by comparison, so we can’t fill all of the seats. Millennials are a large generation, but they are relatively young and inexperienced, so it’ll take some time for them to transition. Gen Z is small, and there aren’t enough of them to fill the service jobs that are being vacated by Millennials.

In short, America is experiencing a massive demographic shift as Boomers leave the workforce. While many people want to exploit this dynamic for political purposes, the reality is far more straightforward: Boomers are leaving a vacuum at the top of the workforce, and everyone is playing musical chairs to fill it. We’ll get there eventually, but it’s been a bit rough.

Well put

 

[Guv]

Actually, no. bis.gov says "People are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work."
So if a person is unemployed and has not informed the trackers of unemployment that they have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks and are currently available for work they are not considered unemployed even though they are and are not part of that 3.6%. This figure is obviously skewed because there are "we are hiring" signs everywhere and at places there were no such signs even a year ago. Some businesses are still cut back on services because they are understaffed. Although retired I work seasonally at a local apple orchard. They asked me to come to work early this season because no one is applying for their openings where in prior years there was no problem. Those positions the owner tries to fill with high school and college students and works very hard to accommodate their schedule, but ...

Go to a Chiles and see how easy it is to get a table and then how long the service takes.
Very true message above!!! Chiles is just one of many examples.

 

[Guv]

I blame the Pandemic, if it wasn't for that we all would be rolling around in Mavericks, Broncos, Bronco Sports and Mach E's.

There is my vote, and yes I approved this message.

And I blame China for sharing such a friggen mess with the rest of the planet.

 

[YOBY]

do you have any incontrovertible proof from inside Ford of their "mismanagement" or do you want to simply keep repeating stuff that fits your narrative because you are unhappy with car buying not being as simple as you expect it to be based on some limited understanding of the industry?

And who do you think from the cleaning crew to the line workers and plant supervisors report to at the end of the day. The buck always stops at the top or would you rather take the CMA out and blame everything on the cleaning crew.

By the way, I was a production manager for 13 years and have a very good understanding of industry.

You want incontrovertible proof, read the headlines for the last 20 years on Ford reliability and this forum.

 

[Dudley]

In short, America is experiencing a massive demographic shift as Boomers leave the workforce. Boomers are leaving a vacuum at the top of the workforce, and everyone is playing musical chairs to fill it. We’ll get there eventually, but it’s been a bit rough.

This is a reality, but I am quite perplexed at the fact that before the shut down forced on us because of the 'rona I was not seeing what we see now in the way of businesses almost begging for employees. My question is ... what changed?? Or, did the shutdown only speed up the inevitable?

 

[YOBY]

As a Gen X small business owner, I have hired many Millennials. They are awesome: Hard-working, kind, creative, and eager to make the world a better place. Watching some Boomers try to blame them for the mess that Boomers left them is frustrating.

The truth about employment in America is that Boomers, a huge generation, are retiring and dying in growing numbers, leaving a lot of jobs that need filling. Gen X is small by comparison, so we can’t fill all of the seats. Millennials are a large generation, but they are relatively young and inexperienced, so it’ll take some time for them to transition. Gen Z is small, and there aren’t enough of them to fill the service jobs that are being vacated by Millennials.

In short, America is experiencing a massive demographic shift as Boomers leave the workforce. While many people want to exploit this dynamic for political purposes, the reality is far more straightforward: Boomers are leaving a vacuum at the top of the workforce, and everyone is playing musical chairs to fill it. We’ll get there eventually, but it’s been a bit rough.

Your absolutely correct. The slow transfer of corporate knowledge was interrupted by the pandemic that forced Boomers to exit the workforce early before the transfer was completed.

 

[wyouger]

We all know who’s fault it is……

It's Putin's fault........no wait it's the oil companies' fault......no wait it's the gas station's fault.....no wait........................

 

[Guv]

This is a reality, but I am quite perplexed at the fact that before the shut down forced on us because of the 'rona I was not seeing what we see now in the way of businesses almost begging for employees. My question is ... what changed?? Or, did the shutdown only speed up the inevitable?

We have had problems finding good blue collar technical help (mechanics, welders, fabricators, etc.) since well before the pandemic hit.

 

[YOBY]

We have had problems finding good blue collar technical help (mechanics, welders, fabricators, etc.) since well before the pandemic hit.

The hands-on guys are disappearing with the computer age. You know how industry circumvents the problem, send the factories overseas. Industry and the Government should step up and offer for free a two-year Technical Degree to High School Graduates. We certainly don't need any more white-collar workers. If you don't produce products in your own country, you're at the mercy of counties with industrial power.

We give billions away every year to countries that are friend and foe and don't have a billion to educate blue collar workers.

 

[Decayed]

Ford has plenty of workers in Mexico. Parts shortages are causing delays and Fords mismanagement is responsible for all the defects and recalls, Period

In the old days all it would mean is that the dealers would have less stock on the lot. Nobody would have any other expectations. It's the custom order/amazon instant delivery mindset that can't process this information.

 

[Snax]

This is a reality, but I am quite perplexed at the fact that before the shutdown forced on us because of the 'rona I was not seeing what we see now in the way of businesses almost begging for employees. My question is ... what changed?? Or, did the shutdown only speed up the inevitable?

I think that it just sped up the inevitable. For example: not long before the pandemic, airlines were getting anxious about losing so many Boomer pilots to mandatory retirement. So, the FAA increased the age for mandatory retirement by a few years, in hopes of keeping more pilots in the air. Well, you can't delay the inevitable for long--so now that pilots are hitting the age limits again, we have a serious pilot shortage. Adding to the pain, some pilots decided to retire early when the pandemic hit. Many industries have similar stories. Here's a good video from the perspective of a pilot: The TRUTH Behind the Airport Travel CHAOS! - YouTube

So, I think that you're right: the pandemic added a lot of pressure to an already distressed system.

 

[DryHeat]

employment problems due to lazy people not wanting to work because a generation was told they need to expecs to get a paycheck in the mail for doing nothing cuz that is how is should be.

Here's what's really happening (this is employment, not unemployment). Employment went down during the pandemic. Now it's going up. But we're still behind.

Why are we behind? Lots of reasons. @Snax mentioned the retirement of a larger generation (boomers) and the problem of replacing them from a smaller pool of workers. The effort to keep immigrants from coming here to work has hit farmers (and others) pretty hard. Some low-pay industries are seeing their workers leave for better jobs. Employers have gotten used to high unemployment rates that give them negotiating power over employees, and now that the situation is reversed, they are having a hard time adjusting.

Some of this is just the free market at work. If you think it's just fine for employers to demand more work for less money, then you have to accept that it's just fine for employees to demand more money for less work. That's not a moral failure. That's just business.

This "It's all the fault of lazy people" rant is just that... a rant.

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