Soft paint? Rock chips after 400 miles

[xSWMIx]

Expecting that on a 20k truck seems kind of silly.

Even though it doesn't cost as much as other models, it's still 20 thousand dollars. So yeah, I'll be pissed if the paint doesn't last 5 years. I bought a Focus in 2003 for like 12k and the paint lasted just fine for almost 10 years.

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[LIL’ Buddy]

Even though it doesn't cost as much as other models, it's still 20 thousand dollars. So yeah, I'll be pissed if the paint doesn't last 5 years. I bought a Focus in 2003 for like 12k and the paint lasted just fine for almost 10 years.

Well said Sir!! I agree, I don’t understand the mindset of “oh it’s only 20k$ or a budget truck” the F!?!? That’s why things suck so much now in America!! People accept poor work, poor attitude, poor skill, poor behaviors, etc… let’s hold ourselves and everything to a better standard and care.

 

[LIL’ Buddy]

Fellow Mav owners- I have to take my Mav in soon anyway for a few things.. this included (checking to see cost to fix paint chips… without any insurance or warranty covering it) and I will see what I can find out at dealer… one of the employees there owns a Maverick they have the carbonized metallic I think it’s called. I will report back. Either way I’m getting the chips fixed, then having the front of the Maverick covered in the PPF film.

* Sadly with the roads I have to travel daily with work… by summer I will have no paint left on my cactus Grey LiL’ Buddy… poor thing…. It did have two small chips out of the front bumper I noticed the next day after purchase, it only drove home from dealer, had to have been there already… just haven’t had a chance to take it back… I work a lot!

 

[WasChops]

I still like the Maverick issues over the transmission failures of the Santa Cruz.

This transmission - albeit only 300 miles so far - is outstanding! And their warranty is simply amazing. The more I drive this Santa C - the more I like it. HOWEVER, I have not yet been in a Mav - can't wait!!

 

[Rob Cactus Gray]

This transmission - albeit only 300 miles so far - is outstanding! And their warranty is simply amazing. The more I drive this Santa C - the more I like it. HOWEVER, I have not yet been in a Mav - can't wait!!

The ecoboost is fun to drive. I haven’t driven a Santa Cruz to compare. I can’t wait to drive my Hybrid Maverick. Anything will be an upgrade from my 11 Prius.

 

[Blessedintx]

FWIW, while not as bad as my Escape and its peeling (YET!), the paint on my Mav is still pretty terrible. By 3,000 miles, my Mav has AT LEAST twice as many chips in its paint as my 20 year old, 55,000 mile Vette.*

This lil pickup is gonna look like a demolition derby car before the warranty is even up.

*I know part of that is the more eco friendly paints that are used nowadays but I have friends driving the same roads with new vehicles from other makes that aren't in NEARLY as bad of shape. The only person I know that can give me a run for my money in paint chipping? My buddy with a 2020 F250. So, I'll stand by my original question from 10/9/21; "why can't Ford figure out how to paint vehicles?"

Y'all scaring me! I don't even have a build date, but am rethinking this truck. Paint chips, disappearing decals...what else. I wanted an economical, relatively inexpensive truck. Not CHEAP. I still expect quality. To me, $32000 plus tax etc is a chunk of change. The more delays the more time I have for doubts.

 

[999]

Paint chips, tailgates not level, cracked windshields... this is HORRIBLE.

 

[Fx4hOok]

1500 miles in and can confirm 2 rock paint chips on bumper, my 15 camry with 90k has less chips

 

[Rob Cactus Gray]

Y'all scaring me! I don't even have a build date, but am rethinking this truck. Paint chips, disappearing decals...what else. I wanted an economical, relatively inexpensive truck. Not CHEAP. I still expect quality. To me, $32000 plus tax etc is a chunk of change. The more delays the more time I have for doubts.

Any vehicle will get chips eventually. My bosses 2019 50k Highlander has rock several rock chips in the bumper with only 15k miles. She also had to have trunk motor replaced (auto up and down).

my 2011 Prius burns 1 qt of oil every 600 miles. And the paint on the front bumper is all gone. It’s been coming off for years.

The 2014 F150 I had 2 small chips in the nearly 40k miles I drove it. I patched them both with a touch up pen.

My 2008 Altima is probably in great shape still. Should have kept it. Of course it did go through a couple transmissions.

The problems on the Maverick so far are not a big deal. You will find reasons to be scared of any vehicle on a forum. The current issue for the Santa Cruz is randomally losing drive power, that is scary! If you are scared of the Maverick go look at other options. Join their forums and let me know if you get scared again.

I want my truck to look awesome for years and I’m NOT on the side of economy = loss of paint, cheap garbage. However, At the end of the day this is a truck. I am going to USE it for truck stuff. It will get loaded with kayaks, scuba 🤿 equipment, dirt, gardening stuff, and tools to name a few. It will see cross country trips and every terrain possible. In 15 years if it has all its paint I will almost be disappointed that I didn’t do more with it. Either way the truck won’t have much value in 15 years. Decals disappearing? Don’t buy any stickers. I’m far more concerned about powertrain and suspension issues.

 

[WasChops]

The ecoboost is fun to drive. I haven’t driven a Santa Cruz to compare. I can’t wait to drive my Hybrid Maverick. Anything will be an upgrade from my 11 Prius.

I'll admit the Santa Cruz is a stellar vehicle to drive. I have owned both 2016 Audi Q5 and a 2005 BMW X3 in the past and the SC handles better than the Audi, and nearly as nice as the BMW. Also the Turbo LAG is undetectable in this SC!! Alas, up until buying the SC - I have waited so long for the Maverick, I want to purchase it and compare it side x side.

 

[jc888888888]

Is that covered under warranty?

no way

 

[Down]

What do you want for a $20k "truck"? How do you think they arrived at that price? They skimped in plenty of areas.

Due to the low price tag, I'd totally expect a lack of features, a cheap interior, not too many option choices, and a metric TON of other tradeoffs. The Mav has all those covered, as expected. Zero complaints from me in those tradeoff areas tho, other than the fugly Lariat interior color scheme.

But I'd ALSO expect it to have a paint job at least close in quality to other current $20k cars, and based upon my experience, that's not at all the case. Compared to people I know with newer Corollas, Elantras and Sentras, the Mav's paint still seems excessively shitty, and those are all priced similarly to the Mav.
But your point also assumes that the price of the vehicle is the only factor at play, which I know is a VERY common defense around these parts for any issue someone wants to bring up about the Mav. That's why I made a point of including the comparison to my buddies F250 that has an even worse problem than my Mav, and neither of these vehicles come close to comparing to the 2017 Escape and its peeling paint that I traded in for my Mav.
Of course, the base 2017 Escape was only mid $20k base and the 2020 F250 was only $35k base, so maybe those were still not a high enough price to expect even a half assed paint application.

So I guess I should prolly flip that question right back to you:
1. How much should I expect to have to pay for a vehicle before I can expect a paint job that holds up for more than a couple thousand miles? Obviously $20k base isn't enough and it sounds like a $35k base price may also not be enough. What's the line? $50k? $100k?
2. Where do you draw the line on piss poor quality? Like, you seem to be 100% OK with shitty paint jobs, so what else is OK at this price point? If we find that the transmissions are blowing out at 40,000 miles, will that also be ok because "what else do you expect for $20k?"? That's a pretty deep rabbit hole to start down....

I certainly don't want to twist the panties of the fanbois that melt down when any criticism is levied at the Mav, so to be clear; I don't regret the purchase and I'll probably buy another one of these a few years down the road, but will be driving for a PPF application STRAIGHT from the dealer. I also DO think the primary cause of these paint problems are EPA regs that have made ALL car paint jobs extra shitty for quite some time now. I just think, based upon my own experience, that Ford seems to do an especially bad job at this and has for quite awhile. But hey, maybe my experience has been a weird, statistical anomaly.

 

[OleFordGuy]

Due to the low price tag, I'd totally expect a lack of features, a cheap interior, not too many option choices, and a metric TON of other tradeoffs. The Mav has all those covered, as expected. Zero complaints from me in those tradeoff areas tho, other than the fugly Lariat interior color scheme.

But I'd ALSO expect it to have a paint job at least close in quality to other current $20k cars, and based upon my experience, that's not at all the case. Compared to people I know with newer Corollas, Elantras and Sentras, the Mav's paint still seems excessively shitty, and those are all priced similarly to the Mav.
But your point also assumes that the price of the vehicle is the only factor at play, which I know is a VERY common defense around these parts for any issue someone wants to bring up about the Mav. That's why I made a point of including the comparison to my buddies F250 that has an even worse problem than my Mav, and neither of these vehicles come close to comparing to the 2017 Escape and it's peeling paint that I traded in for my Mav.
Of course, the base 2017 Escape was only mid $20k base and the 2020 F250 was only $35k base, so maybe those were still not a high enough price to expect even a half assed paint application.

So I guess I should prolly flip that question right back to you:
1. How much should I expect to have to pay for a vehicle before I can expect a paint job that holds up for more than a couple thousand miles? Obviously $20k base isn't enough and it sounds like a $35k base price may also not be enough. What's the line? $50k? $100k?
2. Where do you draw the line on piss poor quality? Like, you seem to be 100% OK with shitty paint jobs, so what else is OK at this price point? If we find that the transmissions are blowing out at 40,000 miles, will that also be ok because "what else do you expect for $20k?"? That's a pretty deep rabbit hole to start down....

I certainly don't want to twist the panties of the fanbois that melt down when any criticism is levied at the Mav, so to be clear; I don't regret the purchase and I'll probably buy another one of these a few years down the road, but will be driving for a PPF application STRAIGHT from the dealer. I also DO think the primary cause of these paint problems are EPA regs that have made ALL car paint jobs extra shitty for quite some time now. I just think, based upon my own experience, that Ford seems to do an especially bad job at this and has for quite awhile. But hey, maybe my experience has been a weird, statistical anomaly.

Very Well Said!! 100% Agree

 

[Down]

Y'all scaring me! I don't even have a build date, but am rethinking this truck. Paint chips, disappearing decals...what else. I wanted an economical, relatively inexpensive truck. Not CHEAP. I still expect quality. To me, $32000 plus tax etc is a chunk of change. The more delays the more time I have for doubts.

I honestly haven't been around the forums much since I took delivery, so I'm not up to date on the most recent news on known issues but I still think the Mav is a good value and I don't regret the purchase. The paint is a frustrating issue because, at least in my world, it's been such a common complaint across all ford models but it also seems to be very color specific. My old escape had known paint problems, but only with blue and white. from what I saw, cactus grey is a common color for bad paint on the Mavs. So, unless Cyber Orange has a bunch of known issues, you could still be in good shape.

The rest of my issues with my Mav have all been pretty minor, keyless entry stopped working on one door, Sync has lots of audio dropouts regardless of connection type, etc.
It has a great powertrain and wicked MPG. You could, on the whole, do a LOT worse for ~$32k, IMO.

 

[LIL’ Buddy]

Fellow Mav owners- I have to take my Mav in soon anyway for a few things.. this included (checking to see cost to fix paint chips… without any insurance or warranty covering it) and I will see what I can find out at dealer… one of the employees there owns a Maverick they have the carbonized metallic I think it’s called. I will report back. Either way I’m getting the chips fixed, then having the front of the Maverick covered in the PPF film.

Due to the low price tag, I'd totally expect a lack of features, a cheap interior, not too many option choices, and a metric TON of other tradeoffs. The Mav has all those covered, as expected. Zero complaints from me in those tradeoff areas tho, other than the fugly Lariat interior color scheme.

But I'd ALSO expect it to have a paint job at least close in quality to other current $20k cars, and based upon my experience, that's not at all the case. Compared to people I know with newer Corollas, Elantras and Sentras, the Mav's paint still seems excessively shitty, and those are all priced similarly to the Mav.
But your point also assumes that the price of the vehicle is the only factor at play, which I know is a VERY common defense around these parts for any issue someone wants to bring up about the Mav. That's why I made a point of including the comparison to my buddies F250 that has an even worse problem than my Mav, and neither of these vehicles come close to comparing to the 2017 Escape and its peeling paint that I traded in for my Mav.
Of course, the base 2017 Escape was only mid $20k base and the 2020 F250 was only $35k base, so maybe those were still not a high enough price to expect even a half assed paint application.

So I guess I should prolly flip that question right back to you:
1. How much should I expect to have to pay for a vehicle before I can expect a paint job that holds up for more than a couple thousand miles? Obviously $20k base isn't enough and it sounds like a $35k base price may also not be enough. What's the line? $50k? $100k?
2. Where do you draw the line on piss poor quality? Like, you seem to be 100% OK with shitty paint jobs, so what else is OK at this price point? If we find that the transmissions are blowing out at 40,000 miles, will that also be ok because "what else do you expect for $20k?"? That's a pretty deep rabbit hole to start down....

I certainly don't want to twist the panties of the fanbois that melt down when any criticism is levied at the Mav, so to be clear; I don't regret the purchase and I'll probably buy another one of these a few years down the road, but will be driving for a PPF application STRAIGHT from the dealer. I also DO think the primary cause of these paint problems are EPA regs that have made ALL car paint jobs extra shitty for quite some time now. I just think, based upon my own experience, that Ford seems to do an especially bad job at this and has for quite awhile. But hey, maybe my experience has been a weird, statistical anomaly.

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