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ummm ford was fined over a hundred million for shenanigans with recalls a couple years ago. they are supposed to have a third party monitoring their recall system. trusting ford more than other manufacturers….lol. big business looks at the bottom line first, then second, then third. then maybe other concerns are looked atTake a few minutes and read the recall report filed with the NHTSA, you'll see this IS Ford getting its act together, setting an example other manufacturers should follow.
This problem was found by the chassis team while looking at a single warrenty claim from the previous model year, the description of the defect didn't look right so they went looking and found another customer who had a similar (significant) front end allignment problem 4 years before that. Additional research found one additional vehicle flagged (and fixed) at the factory.
That's 3 total vehicles from over million produced over 6 years. None of them were Mavericks FWIW but they were incliuded in the recall because of the similar components and assembly methods.
Ford is likely going to spend well over $1 million inspecting, repairing if necessary, and providing rental cars to owners, because a potentially serious problem which might impact 0.5%.
The number of recalls a manufacturer issues each year, time between recalls, or the count of vehicles involved is a terrible way to judge quality once you take time to understand how and why those recalls are initiated.
I don't worry about Ford and it's recalls, I worry about other manufacturers and their lack of recalls on the vehicles sharing the road with me.
I especailly worry about the Toyota in my garage that I've been waiting for months for parts to complete a battery recall of similar scope. In Toyota's report to the NHTSA, they admit they are "unable to provide an estimate" of vehicles affected and more concerning their answer on fire risk is basically "it depends".
Is Ford perfect, certainly not, but the fact that they proactively look for problems and don't hesitate to spend the money and image capital to fix them. It amazes me how Fords record keeping and engineering process enable them to produce a list of VINs they want to inspect within days, while Toyota has been shoulder shruging for years a similarly low probably but high impact risk.
Looking at the Toyota and Ford recall reports side by side, Ford is is clearly FAR MORE transparent and demonstrates that they proactively looking to improve quality, while Toyota's report shows no evidence of this kind of culture.
While Ford says "we've got this", the NHTSA had to open an investigation on Toyota's handling of the recall because of the 11 reported fires. Reading that investigation, it's clear the problem is Toyota's design is specific to Toyota batteries and they never dreamed owners might replace it with a different or upgraded one.
From my POV and whats sitting in my garage right now, its Toyota that needs to get its act together
That confirms what I saidThank you for posting the NHTSA report! That must be fresh off the press
Edit - The defect originated at the Hermosillo Stamping Plant across from the Main Assembly Line. Just fyi..,
Had a mobile service Ford tech come out to my Tremor and do the inspection today and he said it passed. Good to drive againMy 25 tremor is on the list
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That would NOT be the correct way to seat a ball joint. You can damage the joint.looks like they see if it is fully seated. if not, then they loosen the pinch-bolt and jack-up on the ball-joint to engage fully engage into the hub and then tighten the pinch-bolt??
Pretty sure 2 different parts of the ball joint being described by you and Bdesign.That would NOT be the correct way to seat a ball joint. You can damage the joint.
A ball joint press is required.
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Great pictures to easily confirm both the hub side is sitting correctly, and the control arm side was completely pressed in.Thanks to @Darnon posting the TSB images, I went and checked myself. My VIN didn’t have the recall, but figured I might as well look and see. Looks good.![]()
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An alignment would be recommended afterwards if it was initially aligned with a component so out of position.looks like they see if it is fully seated. if not, then they loosen the pinch-bolt and jack-up on the ball-joint to engage fully engage into the hub and then tighten the pinch-bolt??