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I just picked up my truck from the shop after they repaired damage from someone hitting my driver's door. The truck has only 2,000 miles on it. My insurer guarantees repairs by this shop, so I need to determine whether or not those repairs are acceptable. The steering wheel was not properly re-centered; the shop has already agreed to fix that. At my request, they also provided me with the pre and post repair camber/caster/toe numbers, and I have some reservations about the results. First, these are the specs and acceptable ranges that I found on-line for this truck:
Front camber: -0.6 - 0.0 (-0.3)
Front caster: +2.0 - +3.0 (+2.5)
Front toe: +0.04 - +0.16 )+0.10)
Rear camber: -1.0 - -0.5 (-0.75)
Rear toe: +0.10 - +0.25 (+0.19)

These are the before repair measurements:
L Front camber: -1.1
R Front camber: -0.2
L Front caster: +4.0
R Front caster: +4.6
L Front toe: +0.03
R Front toe: +0.05
L Rear camber: -0.9
R Rear camber: -0.5
L Rear toe: +0.08
R Rear toe: +0.01

And these are the post repair numbers:
L Front camber: -1.1
R Front camber: -0.2
L Front caster: +4.0
R Front caster: +4.6
L Front toe: +0.03
R Front toe: +0.05
L Rear camber: -0.9
R Rear camber: -0.5
L Rear toe: +0.08
R Rear toe: +0.01

The only apparent change resulting from the repair was in right front toe-in, and that amount (0.01) could be measurement slop (i.e., they may not have made any alignment changes). My main concern is with the front camber and rear toe-in, both the absolute values and the difference between left and right. Many, many moons ago I made my living for several years doing alignments using a Hunter rack (so long ago that it used mirrors that clipped onto the rims) so, while my knowledge may be obsolete, I am not completely uninformed on the subject. OTOH, I don't know the impact of alignment deviations from spec on the Maverick wrt handling and tire wear, and I also don't know what those specs were when I drove it off the dealer's lot. I am planning on towing a trailer with gross weight of about 2k for a few hundred miles at 60 - 65 MPH next month, (I have the 4k tow pakage) so if this needs fixing, it would behoove me to get it done now. The obvious first question is whether the specs I found on-line are correct? If they are correct, and this was your truck, would you accept the results, or demand better ones?

EDITED TO ADD: I also don't know what is adjustable by design on these trucks. I do know that some early front wheel drive cars (just becoming popular as my alignment "career" ended) had pretty severe limitations on alignment adjustment.
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I just picked up my truck from the shop after they repaired damage from someone hitting my driver's door. The truck has only 2,000 miles on it. My insurer guarantees repairs by this shop, so I need to determine whether or not those repairs are acceptable. The steering wheel was not properly re-centered; the shop has already agreed to fix that. At my request, they also provided me with the pre and post repair camber/caster/toe numbers, and I have some reservations about the results. First, these are the specs and acceptable ranges that I found on-line for this truck:
Front camber: -0.6 - 0.0 (-0.3)
Front caster: +2.0 - +3.0 (+2.5)
Front toe: +0.04 - +0.16 )+0.10)
Rear camber: -1.0 - -0.5 (-0.75)
Rear toe: +0.10 - +0.25 (+0.19)

These are the before repair measurements:
L Front camber: -1.1
R Front camber: -0.2
L Front caster: +4.0
R Front caster: +4.6
L Front toe: +0.03
R Front toe: +0.05
L Rear camber: -0.9
R Rear camber: -0.5
L Rear toe: +0.08
R Rear toe: +0.01

And these are the post repair numbers:
L Front camber: -1.1
R Front camber: -0.2
L Front caster: +4.0
R Front caster: +4.6
L Front toe: +0.03
R Front toe: +0.05
L Rear camber: -0.9
R Rear camber: -0.5
L Rear toe: +0.08
R Rear toe: +0.01

The only apparent change resulting from the repair was in right front toe-in, and that amount (0.01) could be measurement slop (i.e., they may not have made any alignment changes). My main concern is with the front camber and rear toe-in, both the absolute values and the difference between left and right. Many, many moons ago I made my living for several years doing alignments using a Hunter rack (so long ago that it used mirrors that clipped onto the rims) so, while my knowledge may be obsolete, I am not completely uninformed on the subject. OTOH, I don't know the impact of alignment deviations from spec on the Maverick wrt handling and tire wear, and I also don't know what those specs were when I drove it off the dealer's lot. I am planning on towing a trailer with gross weight of about 2k for a few hundred miles at 60 - 65 MPH next month, (I have the 4k tow pakage) so if this needs fixing, it would behoove me to get it done now. The obvious first question is whether the specs I found on-line are correct? If they are correct, and this was your truck, would you accept the results, or demand better ones?

EDITED TO ADD: I also don't know what is adjustable by design on these trucks. I do know that some early front wheel drive cars (just becoming popular as my alignment "career" ended) had pretty severe limitations on alignment adjustment.
Your left front strut probably bent a little. Control arm probably mess up a little.

Do an insurance supplement. Don't let insurance get away with it.
 

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Your left front strut probably bent a little. Control arm probably mess up a little.

Do an insurance supplement. Don't let insurance get away with it.
So you think I should take this up directly with my insurer, rather than with the body shop when I take it back in for the steering wheel centering (which will no doubt require toe adjustment)? I will at least need to wait to see what the measurements are after that adjustment.
 

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So you think I should take this up directly with my insurer, rather than with the body shop when I take it back in for the steering wheel centering (which will no doubt require toe adjustment)? I will at least need to wait to see what the measurements are after that adjustment.
Most body shops cannot handle suspension work. Mechanic shops are the ones better equipped with troubleshooting suspensions.

From my decades running repair shops, high probability that your front driver suspension is damaged from accident.

You can either try supplement it through insurance after alignment failure or go to a good mechanic shop who can handle insurance claims.
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