What are your thoughts on these points against owning a hybrid truck?

[Waterick]

The hybrids are pretty much perfected. Ford just has some quality control and supplier problems. We've had two Prius' over the last 13 years and never had it go in the shop for other than routine maintenance. Even the routine maintenance was minimal. Mostly oil changes and coolant flushes.

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[Surly Old Bill]

The hybrids are pretty much perfected. Ford just has some quality control and supplier problems. We've had two Prius' over the last 13 years and never had it go in the shop for other than routine maintenance. Even the routine maintenance was minimal. Mostly oil changes and coolant flushes.

Our Fiat 500e has had only one maintenance issue requiring attention; the 12v battery went bad after about 7 years. $100 fix (new battery). But, we only have 60k on it. It might blow up and spout flames at any second .

If I had my way, the Mav and other models would be available as an EV with a range extender built in (that's basically a gas powered generator that chargers the batteries). I believe that's a better transition from fossil fuels to electric than the current hybrid system, or plug-in hybrids. At some point in the not too distant future gas/diesel is going to get exponentially more expensive due to both more scarce crude oil and China and India becoming the major users of fossil fuels as they become more like the Merkun middle class. That accounts for 3 billion people combined, compared to the 350 million in Merkuh. So, all things being equal, almost 10x as many drivers as the USA. And almost 10x as much fuel consumption. The fantasy that crude oil will continue to fuel driving very far into the future is over. There are dozens of ways to make electricity, and that's the most practical "fuel" until someone invents some sort of cold fusion or something. Even then, it will still be electricity, but you'll have a built-in lifetime supply when you buy your car.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

is it in the shop for electric drivetrain issues, or for gas drivetrain issues?

Software of course, electrical and transmission.

 

[Taxman100]

We have three hybrids.

A 2009 Toyota Prius at 179,000 miles and the original battery pack. It has had a few typical Prius issues over the years - replacement of the inverter coolant pump, and replacement of the coolant flow control valve - both parts that are under $100, and I did the control valve myself. It is still averaging 48 mpg.

Because that car has been so great (but very slow),

2023 Maverick - just under 25,000 miles and only in for recalls, oil changes, and tire rotations. Per Fuelly, I am averaging 39 mpg over the life of the vehicle, including highway road trips across multiple states.

Because this car has been so great,

2024 Escape ST hybrid - leftover 2024 I purchased on August 30 2025 - I believe it was unsold due to being FWD only at a rural dealer, and was driven a few times as a service loaner over the year it sat on the lot. So far averaging around 41 mpg, but not enough Fuelly entries to confirm yet.

My brother bought a 2024 Maverick Lariat ecoboost with the FX4 package, so we should get to see how each holds up.

 

[TwoTone]

Again SONNY I don't need a lesson! I spent 9 months researching the pros and cons of the hybrid and I DO NOT WANT ONE. I know how it works. 3.93 GPA in Electrical Engineering and happily retired after 47 years applying the technology.

Wow an engineer, you must be smart, yet still made that stupid statement.

 

[TwoTone]

Thanks for playing today and being a polite thoughtful person with his own opinion. Also little late to the thread.

Well recent comment brought it to the top of the feed, so I started reading it.
You're the one that made a proclamation of only driving ICE in reference to hybrids.
Someone pointed out a hybrid is an ICE vehicle and your defense was 'I'm an Engineer and smart'
so yea I ribbed back.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

Software of course, electrical and transmission.

probably the most common "breakdown" in all vehicles of all drivetrains. All the sensors and how they are supposed to contribute to the ECU are the weakest point of any vehicle made right now.

 

[Master Blaster]

. . .
Now disconnect the electrical part of the hybrid and see how great of an ICE vehicle it is and the great mpg.

Assuming that you can fool the ECU about the battery being fine, that's not going to work out well. The EcoBoost uses the Otto cycle like all gas-only vehicles, while the Hybrid uses the modified-Atkinson cycle. The Otto cycle will give considerably more low-end torque at the expense of efficiency, while the Atkinson cycle gives about 30% better efficiency and unfortunately loses most of the low-end torque. You need the electric component of the drivetrain to augment the low-end torque in order to get going.

If you only drive highway then the Otto cycle is almost as good as the Atkinson. However in low-speed and mixed operation, the Atkinson cycle is the clear winner by a large margin.

The other problem that you would face is the HF35/45/55 transmission requiring an energy storage source and sink to function properly. The battery does that. The EcoBoost is completely incapable of that, and you would need to switch to the much more complicated and less reliable traditional transmission.

 

[Cherokee]

I prefer my Ecoboost, because,
It’s not a hybrid.

My next one may be a hybrid if gas prices go cwazy. But for now the cost of gasoline is not a problem for me.

 

[Cancunbadlands]

click bait video tho

 

[grandpa_disney]

Again SONNY I don't need a lesson! I spent 9 months researching the pros and cons of the hybrid and I DO NOT WANT ONE. I know how it works. 3.93 GPA in Electrical Engineering and happily retired after 47 years applying the technology.

That is why they offer EB and Hybrid options . Not one size fits all fits all for sure. I went with hybrid. I get 45 MPG and yes I know the 30K I spent will buy lots of gas! My insurance did not increase. I love the way it drives. It just suited me and my needs.

Now I own non hybrid vehicles as well. My 2013 ram 1500 std cab, 8' bed for instance. It is my dirt hauler and dump run demon. It gets 18 mpg uphill, downhill, head wind, tail wind, loaded and unloaded. I would not replace it with a hybrid. It is for a totally different purpose than the maverick. I also have 2 vintage mustangs that satisfies my shade-tree mechanic itch, so there is that.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

I have a full sized truck with all the bling. I bought the Maverick because of the Hybrid option. Would have bought a hybrid car if it wasn't available. For me no point having a small version gasser. This vehicle looks like a truck, more so than all the midsized sloped front aerodynamic body on frame trucks. I think that is one of it's biggest attractions to many buyers.

 

[Maverick2022XL]

Right, none of the pro's and con's here take into account personal preferences. The video's points are mostly to slow people's roll if they think hybrids are made with unicorn dust or something. I'm probably one of those people, so it helps to consider the fire risks, insurance costs, etc.

Those batteries can catch on fire for sure hybrid or full electric. I knew someone who worked on one in his driveway and the battery went up in flames, so did the car, it also happened to be windy and embers burnt his and his neighbors house down. Not necessarily a point against owning but certainly working on a high voltage battery system without knowing what you are doing.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

Those batteries can catch on fire for sure hybrid or full electric. I knew someone who worked on one in his driveway and the battery went up in flames, so did the car, it also happened to be windy and embers burnt his and his neighbors house down. Not necessarily a point against owning but certainly working on a high voltage battery system without knowing what you are doing.

yes, they CAN go up in flames. It's pretty rare, though. You're more likely to have a gas-fueled vehicle go up in flames. Cuz; extremely flammable liquid. Catch 22; hybrid Mavericks ARE gas-fueled vehicles, AND have a Li-Ion battery (although pretty puny).

I've heard stories of gas-fueled pickups catching on fire while someone was working on them, welding shut a crack in the fuel tank. In both cases, it pays to know what's safe to do and what's not.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

yes, they CAN go up in flames. It's pretty rare, though. You're more likely to have a gas-fueled vehicle go up in flames. Cuz; extremely flammable liquid. Catch 22; hybrid Mavericks ARE gas-fueled vehicles, AND have a Li-Ion battery (although pretty puny).

I've heard stories of gas-fueled pickups catching on fire while someone was working on them, welding shut a crack in the fuel tank. In both cases, it pays to know what's safe to do and what's not.

Thanks for calling it a Pickup and not a Truck.

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