Just a thought on the auto-hold brake feature

[gbit3000]

Auto hold is on every vehicle now days, example infinity 55 gas only, also Ford Ranger that I know for sure.

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[AutobahnSHO]

The auto-hold in Maverick is kind of annoying- takes awhile to disengage. My Mazda I can't even tell it's doing it's thing- no hesitation whatsoever once I push the gas when it's been engaged on a hill.

 

[MaVick]

I have neuropathy and find this feature very useful at times. Especially at long traffic lights. Only thing I don't like about it is, when you shut off the truck it doesn't shut off. Auto start/stop bypass does. It's backwards to me, it should shut off and auto start/stop bypass stay on.

I am with you on the neuropathy, more people have it than you think. This feature really helps me too, as my foot is not comfortable with it on the brake pedal for extended periods of time. My other vehicle is a BMW i5 M60, an EV, so hardly ever use the brakes. I was happily surprised when finding out the auto hold on the Maverick, which took the place of a 22 Rivian R1T that we gave to our son. Very happy with the Maverick, tho not so much with gas station visits again. The Maverick would be a great EV, wish Ford would come out with a Lobo E. (Would that tick off Lobo owners like the Mustang Mach E did to Mustang owners?)

 

[scharris99]

Auto hold is on every vehicle now days, example infinity 55 gas only, also Ford Ranger that I know for sure.

I was going to say, it's been on every car we've owned in this century

 

[FSU TONY]

Turbos spin at very high RPM.
Auto stop/start stops oil flow to the turbo bearings while they are still spinning down.
Not smart.
Part of my start up preflight/procedure is to disable start/stop. While my hand is right there clicking my seat belt in.
Always.

Turning off auto stop on my 2025 does not disable the auto brake. This is a terrible feature as you cant roll by realesing the break peddle. You have to give it gas everytime. I live in south florida so its the worst feature on my new mav! Please someone needs to find a way to disable it!

 

[Carlitos_92]

Turning off auto stop on my 2025 does not disable the auto brake. This is a terrible feature as you cant roll by realesing the break peddle. You have to give it gas everytime. I live in south florida so its the worst feature on my new mav! Please someone needs to find a way to disable it!

They are two different functions and two different settings.

Auto start/stop is related to the engine shutting down temporarily to save fuel.
Auto brake hold is related to the brake being held after you come to a stop so you can take your foot off the pedal.

It sounds like your auto brake hold is working as designed; please consult your manual, as there is absolutely a way to turn it off, and it should stay off.

 

[Cherokee]

My auto brake/ hill hold is set by me to permanent off.
I laugh at all these features that are there to comp for peoples inability to drive.
Never had them back in the day, never needed them.

Lane keeping for idiots texting,
Auto braking for idiots texting,
Auto hill hold, so you can pick your nose,
And the little light in the mirrors telling me a car is there, Really ? That is such a distraction when your awareness and field of vision is on driver alert like it always should be.
So many people I see posting won’t even try the owners manual before coming to us.

I say remove ALL the new safety features.
And ALL warning labels. The gene pool needs cleaning out.
:XD

 

[FSU TONY]

My auto brake/ hill hold is set by me to permanent off.
I laugh at all these features that are there to comp for peoples inability to drive.
Never had them back in the day, never needed them.

Lane keeping for idiots texting,
Auto braking for idiots texting,
Auto hill hold, so you can pick your nose,
And the little light in the mirrors telling me a car is there, Really ? That is such a distraction when your awareness and field of vision is on driver alert like it always should be.
So many people I see posting won’t even try the owners manual before coming to us.

I say remove ALL the new safety features.
And ALL warning labels. The gene pool needs cleaning out.
:XD

Dont need them either for sure. But much faster is someone already knows how to do this my thoughts. All the other nanies were easy to disable just by playing with the menu. This one im stumped. Manual it is

 

[rivermaverick]

I saw posts recently about how the brake hold feature is just for lazy/distracted driving. I don't disagree, but did notice something that may help explain why it exists.

With the hybrid coach on, I can see that more electricity is used while stopped if I leave my foot on the pedal, likely because the electric version of a brake booster is working harder. The auto hold feature is probably a way to save battery at long stops. Likely not a big difference if having control over the brakes matters to you (I certainly don't blame that thinking).

With foot on pedal:

With auto hold only:

Interesting observation, I don''t have my Mav anymore so I can't check. I always put auto trans in neutral when stopped, if the road is flat and no wind I don't use the brakes otherwise auto hold! That way the torque converter is not churning oil. I know the hybrid does not have a torque converter but still creeps if you leave it in 'D', I never figured how it does this, I guess it applies current to one of the MGUs. If so there must be some load on the HV battery. Can you check this?

 

[KenE]

I was going to say, it's been on every car we've owned in this century

Younger drivers might not realize this "auto hold" feature is at least 65+ years old. I remember it being on circa 1958 Studerbaker Larks & Golden/Silver Hawk models with manual transmissions. It was appropriately called "Hill Hold". Probably other Autos had it? Depressing clutch, then brake, kept brake engaged when stopped on hills, allowing you to reposition your right foot to accelerator pedal. Then releasing the clutch also released the brake, minimizing rollback will taking off. So 'Auto hold' is old technology, refined & returned to modern vehicles with automatic & eCVT transmissions. It's a feature the Maverick driver either enables or disables with a momentary press on the switch. Your choice.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Doesn't explain why it is a feature on EcoBoost Mavericks. Personally I like it. I often have to cross a busy highway between Vancouver and Whistler. I can be waiting a long time for the light to turn green.

Also, the default setting on the EB is the feature is disabled and the driver has to enable it.

The soc of 12v at some point (12.0-12.1?) will start the ice.

 

[HeyBales]

Dont need them either for sure. But much faster is someone already knows how to do this my thoughts. All the other nanies were easy to disable just by playing with the menu. This one im stumped. Manual it is

Button on your dashboard. Same icon as on your display when it's engaged.
Surprised it doesn't have a light like pre-25MY does.

 

[HeyBales]

Interesting observation, I don''t have my Mav anymore so I can't check. I always put auto trans in neutral when stopped, if the road is flat and no wind I don't use the brakes otherwise auto hold! That way the torque converter is not churning oil. I know the hybrid does not have a torque converter but still creeps if you leave it in 'D', I never figured how it does this, I guess it applies current to one of the MGUs. If so there must be some load on the HV battery. Can you check this?

There is, when brake is released small amount of power is instantly supplied to the traction motor to allow creep, whether ICE on or by battery.

ETA: when Auto-Hold is engaged, the hybrid system merely supplies no power. Brakes of course are engaged.
On level ground the Auto-Hold gives about 153 PSI to the brakes. Which for manual engagement to that level is about a mere 0.4 mm of brake pedal travel, barely anything, light touch on pedal for me is usually above 180 PSI.
On level ground - 5.7 lb/ft of torque is given to motor on brake release, probably more or less depending on how non-level truck is, until you are in the realm of Auto-Hill Assist region and increased torque given.

 

[Tbone289]

Younger drivers might not realize this "auto hold" feature is at least 65+ years old. I remember it being on circa 1958 Studerbaker Larks & Golden/Silver Hawk models with manual transmissions. It was appropriately called "Hill Hold". Probably other Autos had it? Depressing clutch, then brake, kept brake engaged when stopped on hills, allowing you to reposition your right foot to accelerator pedal. Then releasing the clutch also released the brake, minimizing rollback will taking off. So 'Auto hold' is old technology, refined & returned to modern vehicles with automatic & eCVT transmissions. It's a feature the Maverick driver either enables or disables with a momentary press on the switch. Your choice.

You're describing the Hill Start Assist feature, which is not defeatable in the Maverick. It automatically prevents rollback when transitioning from brake to accelerator when stopped on a hill. Auto hold is a separate, defeatable feature.

 

[FSU TONY]

Button on your dashboard. Same icon as on your display when it's engaged.
Surprised it doesn't have a light like pre-25MY does.

Yup sometimes its staring at you in the face!

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