Does anyone know the expected life for screens in vehicles?

[commadorebob]

Unless you are abusing it, it'll last as long as you have your truck.

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[Phimosis]

25 years.

There are no full color LCD screens that have survived in cars for longer than 25 years.

Mercedes holds that record.
The second longest lived screens are BMW at 24 years.
You wont find any Ford products with LCD screens that have survived longer than 22 years.

 

[dochawk]

The 2022-2024 screens are $85-200 on eBay.

But if it's age catching up with your component, a used replacement from the same period is going to be of similar age, and may not have much life left.

I would expect it to be time and heat on a screen, not the amount time used.

I have both an early Lego Mindstorms and a Macintosh Portable waiting to have their capacitors redone so that they can see life again.

 

[Phimosis]

But if it's age catching up with your component, a used replacement from the same period is going to be of similar age, and may not have much life left.

I would expect it to be time and heat on a screen, not the amount time used.

I have both an early Lego Mindstorms and a Macintosh Portable waiting to have their capacitors redone so that they can see life again.

In my field, medicine, we see this all the time. The EOS, “end of serviceable life” is usually around 10 years. This means that if you have a 2 million dollar GE light speed CT scanner that is 8 years old and out of warranty and the x-ray detector array fails, that GE will reliably have replacement parts in stock and be able to fix your unit and get it running in no more than 48 hours.

But somewhere around 8 years after introduction, they stop making new parts. And at around 10 years the parts bins start to become empty and they EOS the unit.

Then after 12-15 years, all new parts become scarce and you start relying on a network of companies that sell used and refurbished units.

Then at 15+ years, you are operating a dinosaur that has been cobbled together from used parts from a dozen other units.

But we do see hospitals in (mostly) rural areas that can’t afford to buy new equipment and they are using CT scanners, computers and monitors and specialized mice and trackballs, that are 25 years old.

 

[MetalsGeek]

There are dozens of expensive modules that could fail at any moment.
Are you SURE you'll pick the right one to have in stock and ready for service?
Electronics can fail in storage, too...

I bring this up in part due to my own 50 years of experience fixing my own cars. More than once, I've replaced parts that I thought were going to fail soon, only to have more troubles with the "new" repair part than the old one could have ever made. I've had this happen so often that I'm now trying an alternate approach: It it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[Suzukiridr14]

These are not the things that fail and make the car undriveable like ABS units or computers that eventually become unobtainable. Things like that are why you can buy an old V-12 supercar for 8 grand, it will become essnetially undriveable the next major thing that fails. Screens will be in junkyards for a long time. Recognize that new cars will not last like cars from the 60s.

You hit the nail on the head! I bought the new Thunderbird in 2002 when they just came out (like I did with the Maverick) I sold it at a great loss, because after 10 years, Ford no longer supplied parts to repair it. (parts from 2003-to 2005 are different) and you don't find t-birds in the junk yards. Go on ebay, and you'll pay thousands for a electronic box to keep it running. I'll keep my 1956 Thunderbird that I can fix.

 

[inline_five]

You hit the nail on the head! I bought the new Thunderbird in 2002 when they just came out (like I did with the Maverick) I sold it at a great loss, because after 10 years, Ford no longer supplied parts to repair it. (parts from 2003-to 2005 are different) and you don't find t-birds in the junk yards. Go on ebay, and you'll pay thousands for a electronic box to keep it running. I'll keep my 1956 Thunderbird that I can fix.

Semi-good news with the Maverick is it's mostly a parts bin vehicle.

It would make the utmost sense for Ford to standardize using the same modules and electronics throughout their fleet. Being able to source a part out of 10 million produced vehicles would be a lot easier than 100,000.

 

[icegradner]

25 years.

There are no full color LCD screens that have survived in cars for longer than 25 years.

Mercedes holds that record.
The second longest lived screens are BMW at 24 years.
You wont find any Ford products with LCD screens that have survived longer than 22 years.

I doubt any of the modern vehicles will be running in 25 years, the build quality is so poor.

 

[Phimosis]

I doubt any of the modern vehicles will be running in 25 years, the build quality is so poor.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/spt-used-cars?px8324=p2&cgcid=2163&cgagid=910476&sourceContext=cargurus&ax8324=175453616&type=GoogleAdWordsSearch&kw=car gurus&matchtype=e&ad=735315176110&placement=&networktype=g&device=m&devicemodel=&adposition=&physloc=9031778&intloc=&aceid=&cid=141954780&agid=7773129660&tgtid=kwd-4934157750&fid=&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Jm5aemfVrM5F4y2SmlZzX_Jt6Y#listing=402048685/NONE/DEFAULT

vs Lincoln in that same era:

 

[icegradner]

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/spt-used-cars?px8324=p2&cgcid=2163&cgagid=910476&sourceContext=cargurus&ax8324=175453616&type=GoogleAdWordsSearch&kw=car gurus&matchtype=e&ad=735315176110&placement=&networktype=g&device=m&devicemodel=&adposition=&physloc=9031778&intloc=&aceid=&cid=141954780&agid=7773129660&tgtid=kwd-4934157750&fid=&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD9Jm5aemfVrM5F4y2SmlZzX_Jt6Y#listing=402048685/NONE/DEFAULT

I wasn't talking about the early 2000s vehicles, I meant the ones we are buying post 2020.

 

[Phimosis]

I wasn't talking about the early 2000s vehicles, I meant the ones we are buying post 2020.

Post 2020 vehicles have waaaay better build quality than year 2000 vehicles. Most cars, especially cars made in the US, were complete trash in the 1970’s. They were bad, but getting better in the 1980’s. Half way decent in the 1990’s and went from “meh” to “yeah, this is really nice” between 2000 and 2010. And their longevity keeps improving every decade as well. Back in the 70’s and 80’s, you only expected cars to last 100k miles. Now we expect them to last 200k miles.

 

[icegradner]

Post 2020 vehicles have waaaay better build quality than year 2000 vehicles. Most cars, especially cars made in the US, were complete trash in the 1970’s. They were bad, but getting better in the 1980’s. Half way decent in the 1990’s and went from “meh” to “yeah, this is really nice” between 2000 and 2010. And their longevity keeps improving every decade as well. Back in the 70’s and 80’s, you only expected cars to last 100k miles. Now we expect them to last 200k miles.

I never owned an American vehicle before the Maverick. But both of my Asian built cars from the 2000's were better built than the Maverick, it's not even a contest. If not for an acciden the MY08' car I had was at 150k miles and was didn't need anything beyond tires and brakes, engine still good, likely would have gone another 150k miles with ease. Not much rust either. Now my parents had older American cars (70's/80's vintage), and yeah they were trash. My mum's first Toyota on the other hand '79 Corolla, only died in 2005 because you couldn't get parts for it anymore.

 

[patenter]

I didn't know screens were an option. I'm sure they'd really be good for camping in the summertime. Can they be added after factory?

 

[Phimosis]

I didn't know screens were an option. I'm sure they'd really be good for camping in the summertime. Can they be added after factory?

Absolutely they can be added aftermarket. The problem is that most screens require a double-din form factor and the Maverick receiver opening is only single height. So you will need to do a little cutting and buy a Maverick specific install kit.

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