Is Maverick 200k miles reliable?

[710-oil-614]

Furthermore, I don't know why Maverick owners would care about rusted steel axle tubes or cast differential housings on F-150s, when the Maverick doesn't have any of those parts.

Gee I don't know because the maverick has other heavy casted items that come from the factory rusted....

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[Connect]

I would have never thought about owning a car till 200K until my last one. I had no plans to keep it that long but when the pandemic came and then cars were going for crazy prices I thought 'it's going fine I'll just keep driving it till prices come down'. 10 years and 213K miles in my first problem (the engine light had been going on and off every couple of months for the last 8-10 months I had it) it needed a catalytic converter and it wasn't a cut and weld a new one in. So between that and needing brakes and tires in another 10-15K miles I decided I would put the $2500-3000 into something new. It was a 2014 Nissan Rogue and I have never owned a vehicle that did that well. I was very good about the maintenance and besides brakes, tires and Battery it never needed anything else.

That being said I don't know that I have the same faith in the Maverick would make it to 200K (I didn't with the Nissan either though). My plan is probably around the 100K mark to get something else but only time will tell the real story

 

[Tbone289]

Gee I don't know because the maverick has other heavy casted items that come from the factory rusted....

Right. As I said before, surface rust on castings that can't be seen except when you're under the vehicle, and that has no impact on the life of those parts.

I don't see this as a problem, and doesn't apply at all to the subject of this thread: reliability. Can you explain why it is a problem for you? Clearly from your "gee" attitude you think this should be obvious to me but it's not.

 

[710-oil-614]

Right. As I said before, surface rust on castings that can't be seen except when you're under the vehicle, and that has no impact on the life of those parts.

I don't see this as a problem, and doesn't apply at all to the subject of this thread: reliability. Can you explain why it is a problem for you? Clearly from your "gee" attitude you think this should be obvious to me but it's not.

I’ll direct you further back in the thread to my first comment.

 

[Probity]

More 'fun with numbers' - did a nationwide look at used Mavericks for sale on Autotrader - 17 for sale with over 100k miles. Of those 17, 6 of them are hybrids. The 'winner' a '22 2.0EB with 161k miles. The winning hybrid a '22 with 141k miles.

So 100k+ can be done. But a 2016 F150 2.7EB at 465k miles is hard to beat...........
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[Tbone289]

I’ll direct you further back in the thread to my first comment.

Your first comment was about Mexico build. Your second showed a picture of surface rust on your front spindle, which all of us have.

Is it just a principal thing? Your Honda didn't have rust there, so your Ford shouldn't?

 

[RobbieAG]

I keep my vehicles for a long time. I still have my 25 year old Honda Accord with 296k on it and there's nothing major wrong with it. I'm hoping the Maverick will last just as long, but time will tell. How long it lasts will depend a lot on how it's maintained. Ford's reputation may not be as good as Honda's, but their trucks are built to last. They took the turbo into account when designing the Ecoboost engine - for example - forged connecting rods. I do share your concern about the increased complexity and use of electronics in recent cars though. I think there was a sweet spot of reliability in cars built from the mid 90s to mid to late 2000s where they weren't too complicated, but had many things that made them much more reliable than older cars (fuel injection, electronic ignition etc.).

 

[710-oil-614]

Your first comment was about Mexico build. Your second showed a picture of surface rust on your front spindle, which all of us have.

Is it just a principal thing? Your Honda didn't have rust there, so your Ford shouldn't?

No I responded to a comment that someone said they don’t have any rust. They do.

like you said, we all do.

People also shouldn’t complain about the easily scratched plastics, rattles, or anything else about the Maverick as long as it drives the same.

 

[Tbone289]

People also shouldn’t complain about the easily scratched plastics, rattles, or anything else about the Maverick as long as it drives the same.

Agreed. None of it has anything to do with reliability either.

 

[Ron Neal]

I find it ironic that we preform due diligence and homework to buy a reliable vehicle that should last us years but when we buy an extended warranty we are betting the vehicle might break down and those who sell the warranties are betting its reliable enough they still make a profit.

 

[shadow76]

I don’t trust any vehicles over 100k miles. That’s where I sell it to Carmax and put the money down on a new one. Every 6 years. I’ll be doing the same with my new Maverick.

The last 4 trucks I’ve bought, other than the Maverick, were at or just over 100k. I drove each to over 200k with just minor issues. 3 of the 4 are closing in on the classic range.

 

[shadow76]

Ah, the elusive hunt for that 200k+ miles "forever" car/truck. Best auto brand/model? How long is a piece of string?

Did a purely statistical look at what's available for sale out there in USA autoland with 200k+ miles on it. Everyone has their favorite new/used car buying website, mine is Autotrader.

Looked in a 400 mile radius from my location (70433 zip, so generally the mild/temperate climate south) for used vehicles with over 200k miles. Around 1900 of them (the total literally changes as I was looking).

Over 80% of vehicles listed from 6 brands - Chevy, Ford, GMC, Honda, Nissan, Ram, Toyota.

Ford - around 509 vehicles - over 70% were F-series (F150/250/350/450/550).

Chevy - around 309 - over 75% were trucks or Suburban or Tahoe.

Toyota - around 310 - a real mixed bag, although Tacoma/Tundra/4Runner amount to over 50%.

Of the ~1900 total, only 21 are hybrids (just over 1%). Rest are gassers and diesel.

Of the ~1900 total, 4wd/AWD are around 38%, RWD around 37%, and FWD around 25%.

Of the ~1900 total, around 16% are 4 cylinder, 35% 6 cylinder, 48% 8 cylinder (remainder 3, 5, and 10 cylinders).

Of the ~1900 total, manual trans are just over 2%, remainder some form of automatic trans.

So you can draw your own conclusions. In general, a truck-like RWD or 4WD/AWD model with 6 or 8 cylinders seem to be what has lasted for 200k+ miles around my neck of the woods. YMMV.

Thanks for the analysis.

 

[JSanchez]

First, I'm not sure if this is the right forum. Hopefully.

I really love the maverick size. and price is nice too. however, i currently drive a 08 gmc canyon 4 cylinder. it has 172k trouble free miles so far and thats basically all city driving (i bought it used in 2013 with 30k miles). well i've replaced a few things like a water pump over the years but all shadetree jobs.

my big concerns with the mav is with the turbo engine (I want the ecoboost, wont consider the hybrid) the mexico build, ford reputation (but then again as above, GMC doesnt have a great rep but mine is going strong), all the new technology in cars today, cheap build/price (altho i dont consider 25k cheap, i get it today it is). i've watched a few mechanic breakdown vids of the mav or other new ford models on yt and they're typically not too kind. i have to admit i often derogatorily think of the Mav as a "tinfoil truck" lol. otoh we have for example my dad who says cars today are generally more reliable than the past and i kinda agree with him there too. it's just the last few years with more environmental regulations and turbo engines i kinda wonder about.

the other big issue is a watched danieldeliverz videos a lot and he had a lot of issues iirc, the big one being his transmission went out (and it seemed ford dealer didnt even really know what to do since the model was just a couple years old at that point) that really spooked me. Yes he put a lot of miles on his but so what, it's not like 100k miles isn't 100k miles regardless over 2 yrs or 10.

the alternative would be to look at other mid size. which are generally huge and seem to be getting bigger, too big for my liking. The Nissan Frontier (which seems a bit smaller than Ranger/Colorado) is one I've looked at. Naturally aspirated 6. Main issues seem to be requires timing chain replace to replace the water pump (bad design) and heavy steering (just the way Nissan tuned it I guess). Theres always Tacoma, but I dont love the styling, and the price is getting up there.

i do love that the mav seems to be actually available for around 26k new now. wasnt the case a couple years ago when i looked at them.

so anyways any thoughts?

for one, the Hermosillo Plant in Mexico has been awarded the Best Assembly Plant In The World Award. And my father in laws Fusion Hybrid(built in Mexico) has 200k. With an asterisk. He had a cv axle leak. Didn’t bother to get it taken look at, kept driving and the tranny started making a bad sound. Dealer said it was done! They didn’t want to even just flush the tranny as from their experience he wouldn’t make it home. Anyways, that was FiLs fault. As all he did to it was oil changes. BTW he drove 170K in 3 years, car was used with about 24k.

so I do think the vehicles can go the distance if you do regular upkeep. Or preemptive maintenance like ill be doing to my EBs tranny and diff at 30k.

 

[mcluvin]

I would have never thought about owning a car till 200K until my last one. I had no plans to keep it that long but when the pandemic came and then cars were going for crazy prices I thought 'it's going fine I'll just keep driving it till prices come down'. 10 years and 213K miles in my first problem (the engine light had been going on and off every couple of months for the last 8-10 months I had it) it needed a catalytic converter and it wasn't a cut and weld a new one in. So between that and needing brakes and tires in another 10-15K miles I decided I would put the $2500-3000 into something new. It was a 2014 Nissan Rogue and I have never owned a vehicle that did that well. I was very good about the maintenance and besides brakes, tires and Battery it never needed anything else.

That being said I don't know that I have the same faith in the Maverick would make it to 200K (I didn't with the Nissan either though). My plan is probably around the 100K mark to get something else but only time will tell the real story

And I usually drive my vehicles to 200k+ miles, but because of the pandemic, I have now driven one to 300k+ and still going strong. The big repairs at 200k+ are usually alternator and starter. The AC compressor clutch will probably start slipping too.

 

[Grabber Rick]

First, I'm not sure if this is the right forum. Hopefully.

I really love the maverick size. and price is nice too. however, i currently drive a 08 gmc canyon 4 cylinder. it has 172k trouble free miles so far and thats basically all city driving (i bought it used in 2013 with 30k miles). well i've replaced a few things like a water pump over the years but all shadetree jobs.

my big concerns with the mav is with the turbo engine (I want the ecoboost, wont consider the hybrid) the mexico build, ford reputation (but then again as above, GMC doesnt have a great rep but mine is going strong), all the new technology in cars today, cheap build/price (altho i dont consider 25k cheap, i get it today it is). i've watched a few mechanic breakdown vids of the mav or other new ford models on yt and they're typically not too kind. i have to admit i often derogatorily think of the Mav as a "tinfoil truck" lol. otoh we have for example my dad who says cars today are generally more reliable than the past and i kinda agree with him there too. it's just the last few years with more environmental regulations and turbo engines i kinda wonder about.

the other big issue is a watched danieldeliverz videos a lot and he had a lot of issues iirc, the big one being his transmission went out (and it seemed ford dealer didnt even really know what to do since the model was just a couple years old at that point) that really spooked me. Yes he put a lot of miles on his but so what, it's not like 100k miles isn't 100k miles regardless over 2 yrs or 10.

the alternative would be to look at other mid size. which are generally huge and seem to be getting bigger, too big for my liking. The Nissan Frontier (which seems a bit smaller than Ranger/Colorado) is one I've looked at. Naturally aspirated 6. Main issues seem to be requires timing chain replace to replace the water pump (bad design) and heavy steering (just the way Nissan tuned it I guess). Theres always Tacoma, but I dont love the styling, and the price is getting up there.

i do love that the mav seems to be actually available for around 26k new now. wasnt the case a couple years ago when i looked at them.

so anyways any thoughts?

If you watch his videos he basically abused his truck. Pulling a full size Ford truck out of snow drifts. He also got his stuck in the same snow drifts and repeatedly tried to get it unstuck. He was reving it up rocking forward and backwards. That is not good on any vehicle especially just flooring it and trying to spin yourself free. No doubt he overheated his transmission.

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