Issues with Tariffs, both Mexico AND Canada [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS; MEMBERS ALREADY BANNED FOR IT]

[FreedomPenguin]

Wonder if ford is going to put out a bullitin.

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[CajunMick]

"Raw Aluminum " OK. But crude aluminum is sourced from bauxite ore. And that does not come from Canada. Maybe other locations will be developed to process the ore into raw metal. Who knows but why is Canada unique here in processing ore into useable metal form ?

During my college days in the 60s, worked summer for Kaiser Aluminum & Chemical in Gramacy, La. Shiploads of bauxite from Jamaica would come in. There the bauxite refined and many byproducts made. One was aluminum fluoride, a sugary like powder, which I think was used to treat aluminum smelt into the aluminum we use daily.

When ships comes in, docks at cranes/hoppers, cannot get all the bauxite out of the ship holes. So us boys had to go in those holes, with masks n shovels, along with a front end loader to scoop up last remains of that “red dirt”, load front end loader, and it dumps into the hugh buckets from cranes to haul out. It was hot and dusty down there! And days later, while showering, still get that red dirt on wash cloth! Working for Kaiser, had to get first x-ray, and last day leaving get another final x-ray.p of our lungs. If techs see bad imagines on lungs, I’m not sure what that meant.

We drove trucks in the plant. Couldn’t see out windshields, windows. They frosted. Attacked by fluoride acid. Acid eats windows, but not the metals of the truck, or steel.

Plant also produced phosgene gas. Stuff used in WW1 by Germans. Sensors in the plant would go off, we had to evacuate. Many drills to “run and escape” any leaks.

 

[2lbgill]

No Auto Mfg. is going to move their plants out of Mexico being as they have a world wide market to serve without any tariffs.

 

[Whitty1]

I saw on here a lot of posts about the upcoming tariffs, and I just wanted to mention that while all the posts I read exclusively mentioned the Mavericks Mexican involvement, I also wanted to tell everyone that Canada is definitely involved as well.

I work at Arconic in Davenport, IA. We make the aluminum alloys for all the Ford bodies and frames. I can tell you, without hesitation, that 90+% of all our raw or "prime" aluminum originates in Canada. I have unloaded thousands of tons from railcars myself. No raw aluminum=no aluminum alloys. We do a fair bit of recycling/reusing but at best thats 76%, and thats not perpetually sustainable. We need millions of tons a month of prime aluminum.

So, with the vehicle being assembled in Mexico, with aluminum sourced from Canada, it could be, functionally, a 50% tariff.

Not trying to be political. I am stating provable facts. Not solutions.

Yahoo News reported yesterday that they have been put off until March 1. Just to be clear on this, TARIFFS won't have any impact on the current inventory on the lots. Therefore, it will take a little time for price increases to work their way through the system. Also, Ford may choose to cut costs (Layoffs) or absorb the tariffs in the form of lower profit margins rather than raise prices or any combination of

 

[Whitty1]

Yahoo News reported yesterday that they have been put off until March 1. Just to be clear on this, TARIFFS won't have any impact on the current inventory on the lots. Therefore, it will take a little time for price increases to work their way through the system. Also, Ford may choose to cut costs (Layoffs) or absorb the tariffs in the form of lower profit margins rather than raise prices or any combination of

Don't assume we will see price increases the next day. It will take some time for prices to work through the system

 

[MichaelG]

Don't assume we will see price increases the next day. It will take some time for prices to work through the system

If Canada enacts a tariff on crude oil exports to the US, gas prices will spike very quickly in the upper mid-west region.

 

[Whitty1]

If Canada enacts a tariff on crude oil exports to the US, gas prices will spike very quickly in the upper mid-west region.

TARIFFS are taxes on your own people. If Canada raises tariffs on oil it is the Canadians that will pay higher prices. If the president puts tariffs on Canadian oil, then we will see the higher prices and it could happen quickly. It seems like oil goes up immediately when there is an issue while the price comes back down slowly. You are talking about a different market. Ford sets the prices for its vehicles and parts. Energy is traded on the futures market and is more determined by what happens when those markets trade around the globe. This is a lot more complicated than people think. Higher oil prices also affect the economy and inflation.

 

[FreedomPenguin]

Come on ford honor your peoples orders no tariff price

 

[Maverick2023]

After I retired I purchased a used semi-truck and traveled the country delivering supplies. One of the items was

After I retired I drove a semi-truck across the country for about 5 years. During that time I picked up a load of very large steel posts from Windsor Canada that the U.S. paid for. Then carried these loads to El Paso, TX where crews from Mexico built/welded these posts together to construct the wall across US/Mexico boarder and we paid their wages to do this. We purchased steel from Canada and hired Mexicans from Mexico to build the wall. Are we a bunch of hippocrytes or what? Makes me sick. Now with these tariffs it will cost us much more for the wall that Mexico DID NOT pay for. Thanks for letting me vet.

i guess you don't know the truth or reality unless you witness it happen in person. Has anyone actually been to the border and touched the wall? Anyways, what real is my wallet is getting thinner nowadays. Feel bad for those who are even less fortunate than me.

 

[Ken L]

IF the tariffs (and/or counter tariffs) are introduced (I haven't heard anything yet Noon Feb 1), it will be the 'bean counters ' at Ford or others that will have to work out the details.
How many times do the raw materials, parts supplied etc cross borders before the finished product , your MAVERICK//Bronco Sport does the final crossing.

Ken

 

[SLINGSHOT]

Her cousin got a kicks, she went out and bought a rogue like week later, it was a step up from her Chevy sonic but I actually liked it, and I paid 6k for it was paid off

now she owes like 30k overpaid hard.
I just don’t love riding around in it, and I don’t think Maverick had such abrupt engine on and off like the rogue

everytime we stop, I legit feel it on and off on and off. Maverick didn’t feel like that when I test drove. Am I wrong?

I have a 2023 Hybrid. Constantly On and Off in town driving. I never know it unless I look at the RPM indicator on my ScanGuage. They got that part of the software perfect.

 

[SLINGSHOT]

Wonder if ford is going to put out a bullitin.

Nah. Another "software update". Farley and Elon thinks they can cure anything with a software update.

 

[Linc64]

If you already own a Maverick...why care?

Because many replacement parts come from Mexico and Canada.

 

[SLINGSHOT]

Yahoo News reported yesterday that they have been put off until March 1. Just to be clear on this, TARIFFS won't have any impact on the current inventory on the lots. Therefore, it will take a little time for price increases to work their way through the system. Also, Ford may choose to cut costs (Layoffs) or absorb the tariffs in the form of lower profit margins rather than raise prices or any combination of

You think the vehicles currently on the lots won't be affected? Have you never noticed that when someone in the far east oil fields farts, the price of gas goes up even if it has been sitting in the underground tank for a month? When the tariffs kick in, the new car lots will be littered with old window stickers. Dealership+Stealership.

 

[MAVornoMavisthequestion]

Wonder if tariff will be eaten up by ford or the consumers. Will it bring up older maverick models in value?

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