This post is not about tariffs...

[Phimosis]

Tarrifs..... it's where you are pissing on me and telling me the drought is over and it's raining....

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[bsaveloman]

When I joined, my wife asked me are there any woman in the Maverick Truck Club?
Thank you Vicky for joining. I am new to the club. I was glad to tell her, "YES".

 

[DevoMcDev0]

Did you know before we has income taxes, tariffs filled the role.

We were taxing other countries to allow them to do business here.

As for the Mavericks role, build it here, pay AMERICANS, and you eliminate the effects of the tariffs, don't you?

America first, if I pay more to save our country, and jobs come back, I'll take it.

 

[AzureBlueBill]

Did you know before we has income taxes, tariffs filled the role.

We were taxing other countries to allow them to do business here.

As for the Mavericks role, build it here, pay AMERICANS, and you eliminate the effects of the tariffs, don't you?

America first, if I pay more to save our country, and jobs come back, I'll take it.

Yeah, why do they still build Rangers in the US, as well as many other Ford vehicles? How did the Maverick end up 100% Mexican? (I know it's all about $$$, but they really went all-out with outsourcing this particular truck).

 

[TomBill]

TDS is real.

 

[DevoMcDev0]

Yeah, why do they still build Rangers in the US, as well as many other Ford vehicles? How did the Maverick end up 100% Mexican? (I know it's all about $$$, but they really went all-out with outsourcing this particular truck).

Costs, sub 20k, had to use cheaper labor to keep the costs down, hence Mexico.

My Mav I'm picking up Thursday is basically the cheapest hybrid AWD, with one option, the tow hitch.

It's right at 30K, far from 19, 995.

 

[Mark1]

Buy a Tesla, it's owned by a foreign national who bought the boss.

 

[zen_]

Yeah, why do they still build Rangers in the US, as well as many other Ford vehicles? How did the Maverick end up 100% Mexican? (I know it's all about $$$, but they really went all-out with outsourcing this particular truck).

Not that hard to look on wiki and see that the Hermossilo assembly plant has been in operation since 1986. Ford made a decision in 2018 to kill all non-SUV / light trucks besides the Mustang in our market, so the plant in Hermossilo that assembled in the Fusion and MKZ, had capacity for something else. They had been making Fusion hybrids there for some time, so it made even more sense to assemble the Maverick there.

I'm not congratulating Ford for assembling vehicles in Mexico to save on labor, but it wasn't exactly a conspiracy either. They can assemble F-150s and Rangers in the USA with union labor because the margins leave a lot more room for higher labor cost.

Will be interesting to see for sure if Ford moves production of the Maverick and Bronco sport to Kentucky as the Escape winds down, and if so, what that cost. It's a huge gamble for companies to invest billions in reshoring when the political winds could blow in any direction, at any time. The safe bet would be to pull back and hunker down.

 

[DevoMcDev0]

Buy a Tesla, it's owned by a foreign national who bought the boss.

Electric vehicles are for rich fools.

A hybrid is a sensible mix of cost, efficiency and convenience.

 

[DevoMcDev0]

Not that hard to look on wiki and see that the Hermossilo assembly plant has been in operation since 1986. Ford made a decision in 2018 to kill all non-SUV / light trucks besides the Mustang in our market, so the plant in Hermossilo that assembled in the Fusion and MKZ, had capacity for something else. They had been making Fusion hybrids there for some time, so it made even more sense to assemble the Maverick there.

I'm not congratulating Ford for assembling vehicles in Mexico to save on labor, but it wasn't exactly a conspiracy either. They can assemble F-150s and Rangers in the USA with union labor because the margins leave a lot more room for higher labor cost.

Will be interesting to see for sure if Ford moves production of the Maverick and Bronco sport to Kentucky as the Escape winds down, and if so, what that cost. It's a huge gamble for companies to invest billions in reshoring when the political winds could blow in any direction, at any time. The safe bet would be to pull back and hunker down.

I agree, unrest in Mexico if the world economy dumps, bring production back.

 

[MaverickGladiator]

Buy a Tesla, it's owned by a foreign national who bought the boss.

You mean American Citizen who is working on reducing our nation's deficit?

 

[zen_]

I agree, unrest in Mexico if the world economy dumps, bring production back.

I don't agree though, I just put that out there as a very "if" (assembling the Maverick and Bronco Sport in Kentucky).

Ford is already deeply discounting the Escape and Bronco sport to the point where they are probably not even profitable, and this isn't the 80's or 90's where the big 3 just pumped out cheap cars that didn't sell, made no profit, and oh well. Sophisticated financial planning and forecasting models businesses use these days is what guides decisions, and what worries me most is the long range of the vehicle production supply chain has already started massive layoffs in the iron range of Minnesota. People can believe what they want, but 2 + 2 does still equal 4, and thing are not looking great.

 

[Jman79]

Wow 7 pages in this thread, the mods must be tiring of fighting the rising tide.

I miss when the Internet had a higher bar for entry. After dialing in 5 times to get a solid connect and having to wait longer to send something than it took to type, people tended to lean toward making sure those bits were value add.

Now it's ubiquitous and we just flood the net with pontification.

 

[Mark1]

LMAO....ok

 

[MaverickGladiator]

Imagine a family-owned restaurant over the past four years. When the story starts, they’re just reopening after a rough storm shut them down—tables are empty, but the pantry’s stocked from emergency loans. The manager who steps in works hard to get things buzzing again. Over four years, they pack the place—sales jump, they’re serving 15% more meals than before the storm, and they hire back all the old staff plus some new faces. The kitchen’s humming, and they even renovate the place with new ovens and a solar-powered fridge, betting on long-term gains. By year four, they’re pulling in steady revenue, maybe 3% more each year, and the local foodie blog says it’s one of the best turnarounds around.

But not everything’s rosy. Early on, ingredient costs skyrocket—flour’s up 20%, eggs are pricier than ever—because supply trucks are stuck and a far-off market’s in chaos. Customers grumble as menu prices climb; a burger that was $10 now costs $12.50. The manager gets the bills under control by year three, but folks still feel the pinch and complain the vibe’s off, even with full tables. The restaurant’s also racked up a hefty tab from all the upgrades—debt’s twice what it was—and loan payments are starting to bite.

Then a new manager takes over, promising a fresh recipe. Two months in, they’re shaking things up. They slap a big fee on imported spices, saying it’ll force local farms to step up and keep cash in-house. Some suppliers balk, and the pantry’s a bit bare while prices wiggle—regulars aren’t sure if their favorite dish will cost more tomorrow. The new boss cuts the staff’s taxes, hoping they’ll spend more tips on the jukebox, and starts burning cheaper fuel to grill, even if it smokes up the place. They’re betting on a packed house with wallets full, but the ledger’s wobbly—sales dipped 2% last week, and a critic warns the spice gamble might sour the stew.

So, the restaurant’s in a weird spot. The last manager left it busy and modern but cash-strapped and pricey. The new one’s swinging big to tweak the menu and cut costs, but it’s early days—will it pack the booths or empty them? Guess we’ll see when the next review drops.

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