Switchback LED for front directionals

[Bob The Builder]

As the title says looking to upgrade my front directionals with LED. The LasFits look to be way too bright in white mode. I don't want to blind people at night and be one of those guys.

Question, does anyone know of a LED switchback that is not so bright. Thanx.

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[Glen Baker LLC]

As the title says looking to upgrade my front directionals with LED. The LasFits look to be way too bright in white mode. I don't want to blind people at night and be one of those guys.

Question, does anyone know of a LED switchback that is not so bright. Thanx.

I don't know what pictures you're seeing.
I have switchbacks.
There's no way that switchbacks white mode are brighter than your headlights.

 

[Bob The Builder]

I have switchbacks.
There's no way that switchbacks white mode are brighter than your headlights.

I did not think that the white mode is brighter than the headlights. My concern is that in conjunction with the headlights the combination may be too bright and lead to getting flipped off all the time at night. As it is I get flipped off more than a few times with just my low beams on.

Judging from your reply I would guess it is safe to assume this is not a problem.

 

[First Sergeant]

I have the Lasfit switch-backs also and agree with Glen, not really THAT bright. I like them and have had zero problems. My Maverick is a 2023 XLT and I do occasionally get flashed by those who think I have high beams on. Had the wife follow me to a deserted road not long after we bought it. The low beams did seem bright to me. At that time I did not have the Lasfits. I don't think adding the switchbacks made any difference. Maybe adjusted to high?

 

[mspmms]

I have the Lasfit switch-backs also and agree with Glen, not really THAT bright. I like them and have had zero problems. My Maverick is a 2023 XLT and I do occasionally get flashed by those who think I have high beams on. Had the wife follow me to a deserted road not long after we bought it. The low beams did seem bright to me. At that time I did not have the Lasfits. I don't think adding the switchbacks made any difference. Maybe adjusted to high?

I too have the Lasfit switch-backs and also have been flashed by those who think I have high beams on even before they were installed.

From the meme thread:

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They left me no choice but to . . .

. . . flash them back:

 

[Bob The Builder]

I have the Lasfit switch-backs also and agree with Glen, not really THAT bright. I like them and have had zero problems. My Maverick is a 2023 XLT and I do occasionally get flashed by those who think I have high beams on. Had the wife follow me to a deserted road not long after we bought it. The low beams did seem bright to me. At that time I did not have the Lasfits. I don't think adding the switchbacks made any difference. Maybe adjusted to high?

I too have the Lasfit switch-backs and also have been flashed by those who think I have high beams on even before they were installed.

From the meme thread:

Spoiler

They left me no choice but to . . .

. . . flash them back:

Thank you both.

 

[Itsdavebr0]

I’ve had these for 2 years. The white isn’t too bright but the amber is. Just like it should be.
Highly recommend.

 

[rgmiller32]

2025 with them installed. The amber was almost as bright.

 

[Sticks]

I don't know what pictures you're seeing.
I have switchbacks.
There's no way that switchbacks white mode are brighter than your headlights.

Even a dim flashlight can appear bright when it shines directly in your eyes.

(I'm sure you already know this part, but..) LED bulbs can't mimic the optical properties of the halogen bulbs they replace. Since the emitters are a different size and location from the original filament, the reflectors scatter light, producing glare.

Glare is glare, so OP gets flashed.

I don't want to blind people at night and be one of those guys.

If you don't want to be "that guy", the most effective solution is to ditch the not use switchbacks. On the halogen bulb, you can disable the amber running light by cutting that pin off the bulb.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Even a dim flashlight can appear bright when it shines directly in your eyes.

(I'm sure you already know this part, but..) LED bulbs can't mimic the optical properties of the halogen bulbs they replace. Since the emitters are a different size and location from the original filament, the reflectors scatter light, producing glare.

Glare is glare, so OP gets flashed.



If you don't want to be "that guy", the most effective solution is to ditch the switchbacks. On the halogen bulb, you can disable the amber running light by cutting that pin off the bulb.

The Op doesn't have switchbacks installed his Maverick yet.
He's getting flashed from the low beams of his headlights as a stated below.

I did not think that the white mode is brighter than the headlights. My concern is that in conjunction with the headlights the combination may be too bright and lead to getting flipped off all the time at night. As it is I get flipped off more than a few times with just my low beams on.

Judging from your reply I would guess it is safe to assume this is not a problem.

Seeing as how you do not have a 25 or newer Maverick. Post # 7 has a picture showing just how much difference there is between the headlights and the switchbacks in white mode.
Unless you have your parking lights on 100% of the time the only time they will be turned on is when your headlights are on.
My advice Bob, is to go ahead and order them install them and go about your day. Nobody's going to flash their lights at you because switchbacks are too bright.

 

[Sticks]

The Op doesn't have switchbacks installed his Maverick yet.
He's getting flashed from the low beams of his headlights as a stated below.

Seeing as how you do not have a 25 or newer Maverick. Post # 7 has a picture showing just how much difference there is between the headlights and the switchbacks in white mode.
Unless you have your parking lights on 100% of the time the only time they will be turned on is when your headlights are on.
My advice Bob, is to go ahead and order them install them and go about your day. Nobody's going to flash their lights at you because switchbacks are too bright.

Oops! I misread that. He should probably check his low beam aiming.

But I stand by my point about glare. Fundamentally, the inherent design deficiencies of LED bulbs in halogen reflectors will cause glare in many lamps. Even if the bulb is relatively dim, it can be harmful when scattered directly into your eyes. The example in Post 7 looks inoffensive at that specific angle, but what about every other viewing angle? If there is truly zero glare at all angles, it's a happy accident.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Oops! I misread that. He should probably check his low beam aiming.

But I stand by my point about glare. Fundamentally, the inherent design deficiencies of LED bulbs in halogen reflectors will cause glare in many lamps. Even if the bulb is relatively dim, it can be harmful when scattered directly into your eyes. The example in Post 7 looks inoffensive at that specific angle, but what about every other viewing angle? If there is truly zero glare at all angles, it's a happy accident.

Those that are having problems with glare from multiple vehicle headlights, should probably have their eyes checked for astigmatism, glaucoma, cataracts and or other eye problems.
Eye disease and other refractive issues: The biggest contributor to vision glare and halos is the development of cataracts – an eye disease that is seen in many .

 

[Sticks]

Those that are having problems with glare from multiple vehicle headlights, should probably have their eyes checked for astigmatism, glaucoma, cataracts and or other eye problems.
Eye disease and other refractive issues: The biggest contributor to vision glare and halos is the development of cataracts – an eye disease that is seen in many .

Are you saying that you prefer to assume that anyone who flashes you must have something wrong with them?

This is what I get for trying to explain high school level optical physics to the general public

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Are you saying that you prefer to assume that anyone who flashes you must have something wrong with them?

This is what I get for trying to explain high school level optical physics to the general public

I suppose that would depend on how often a person is having headlights being flashed at them.
Using common sense. I would think that if it's happening to you often, it's probably because your headlights are out of alignment.
If it only happens occasionally OR very rarely. I would say that, yes other driver should get his/her eyes checked.
But that's just a common sense approach. Sometimes that evades Highly Educated folks.

 

[Bob The Builder]

The Op doesn't have switchbacks installed his Maverick yet.
He's getting flashed from the low beams of his headlights as a stated below.

Seeing as how you do not have a 25 or newer Maverick. Post # 7 has a picture showing just how much difference there is between the headlights and the switchbacks in white mode.
Unless you have your parking lights on 100% of the time the only time they will be turned on is when your headlights are on.
My advice Bob, is to go ahead and order them install them and go about your day. Nobody's going to flash their lights at you because switchbacks are too bright.

Thank you for clarifying that. Getting advice and know how from those who have gone before us tends to save money and the know how is invaluable.

Last time I was at the dealership for one of those software upgrades I asked them to check the headlight alignment just for grins and chuckles. They stated they were spot on from the factory.

I'm guessing it is just one of those things where they get hit with the light just under the cutoff on a hill or whatever. Being a white light some just assume I am being one of those guys who put huge LED bulbs in the reflector lenses of their F350 SD and don't give a damn as long as they can see.

When I wanted HID headlights in my last Ranger I took the housings apart and mounted a Morimoto projector lens inside the housing. Lots of surgery, trial and error and time but finially got them aimed correctly and they were awesome. Biggest reason I ended up getting my price for the truck when I sold it. Hey Dad, look, this Ranger has HID's. Hahaha.

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