Reason why Hybrid Maverick interest so high? [WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[The-Beast]

Probably has something to do with calling it a hybrid truck.

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[brnpttmn]

Doesn't make sense the engine is 126 HP and 191 combined.

It's not at simple as summing the two.

 

[AutobahnSHO]

The "horsepower" of electric motors isn't measured the same as a gas motor- which is torque and time. The hybrid will vary based on gas vs electric vs RPMs....

 

[James D]

I ask you this, do you need 250 horsepower? Most crossovers have around 180-200hp, and they have ample performance. I currently own an Escape 2.0, and it's fun, the maybe one time I was able to actually use it. 99% of my driving it sits at 1.5k rpm in top gear.

I am trading it in for a Maverick Hybrid, which I think is the true value in the vehicle. A reliable smooth ecvt, instant torque, 42/33 mpg, and extended warranty. I work for a living, and I do my job from the road. It makes a lot of sense for me to have a reliable fuel efficient vehicle.

I would say the one thing it won't do as well would be towing. If you tow constantly, it's probably worth it to get the ecoboost. I plan on maybe towing a small trailer with my hybrid for wood or special trips, but nothing heavy.

From the videos I have seen with off-roading, not that it is "bad" but if I wanted to do that I would get a bronco or bronco sport. I imagine even the base bronco sport with the 3 cyl would outperform the maverick on a trail.

Now that the hybrid is sold out, think again about the eco. If it will mostly be a road trip truck, mpg hwy is only 3 mpg less. 250hp engine is also more fun and better for passing.

 

[BMCGC]

The EPA rates the EB at 23/30/26 or 22/29/25 and the hybrid at 42 city and 37 combined.

People claiming 33+ highway on the EB is 10% better than the EPA rating.

I have never seen an EPA rating off that far to the +.

We will not know the actual hybrid real world numbers until we get them on the road.

One size does not fit all.

I am 95% city driving, so for me, the difference is 19-20-ish mpg, 95% of the time and 2-3-4-5-ish mpg the other 5% of the time.

I am all in hybrid.

 

[Deleted member 1483]

Now that the hybrid is sold out, think again about the eco. If it will mostly be a road trip truck, mpg hwy is only 3 mpg less. 250hp engine is also more fun and better for passing.

As a current 2.0 ecoboost owner you'll never hear me say that it's not an excellent option. I am merely saying the hybrid also is.

 

[brnpttmn]

The EPA rates the EB at 23/30/26 or 22/29/25 and the hybrid at 42 city and 37 combined.

People claiming 33+ highway on the EB is 10% better than the EPA rating.

I have never seen an EPA rating off that far to the +.

We will not know the actual hybrid real world numbers until we get them on the road.

One size does not fit all.

I am 95% city driving, so for me, the difference is 19-20-ish mpg, 95% of the time and 2-3-4-5-ish mpg the other 5% of the time.

I am all in hybrid.

I believe the updated EPA testing (2011) is more reliable/conservative so it's possible to exceed the ratings by 10% in the right conditions and driving styles. But the same should be true with the hybrid.

 

[brnpttmn]

Now that the hybrid is sold out, think again about the eco. If it will mostly be a road trip truck, mpg hwy is only 3 mpg less. 250hp engine is also more fun and better for passing.

Keep in mind that, even if you're road tripping a lot or otherwise doing a lot of highway miles, it's nearly impossible to hit 100% highway miles. So even at 80-90% highway miles you're looking at 15-20% better mileage (about 5-7 mpgs). Anyway, here's the efficiency/cost comps for driving mix based on the AWD EB and Hybrid.

City %	Hwy %	EB AWD	Hybrid	% diff	MPG diff	$/yr (@15K $3.50)	$/yr (@10K $3.00)	5 yr est
100​	0​	22​	42​	91%​	20​	$ 1,136	$ 649	$ 4,464
90​	10​	22.7​	41.1​	81%​	18.4​	$ 1,035	$ 592	$ 4,068
80​	20​	23.4​	40.2​	72%​	16.8​	$ 938	$ 536	$ 3,684
70​	30​	24.1​	39.3​	63%​	15.2​	$ 843	$ 481	$ 3,310
60​	40​	24.8​	38.4​	55%​	13.6​	$ 750	$ 428	$ 2,945
55​	45​	25.2​	37.95​	51%​	12.8​	$ 704	$ 402	$ 2,766
50​	50​	25.5​	37.5​	47%​	12​	$ 659	$ 376	$ 2,588
40​	60​	26.2​	36.6​	40%​	10.4​	$ 569	$ 325	$ 2,237
30​	70​	26.9​	35.7​	33%​	8.8​	$ 481	$ 275	$ 1,890
20​	80​	27.6​	34.8​	26%​	7.2​	$ 394	$ 225	$ 1,546
10​	90​	28.3​	33.9​	20%​	5.6​	$ 306	$ 175	$ 1,204
0​	100​	29​	33​	14%​	4​	$ 219	$ 125	$ 862

 

[KathyG]

We will be replacing a 2012 F150 5.0L Lariat (I truly love that truck!) with the hybrid.
We are selling travel trailer and our truck and switching to a small motorhome- we can flat tow the Mav and it will be a better daily driver and vacation trip vehicle while retaining some truck functionality for home projects etc.

 

[mktmgrjrm]

Even five years ago, I did not envision that EV's would be being pushed by nearly all auto manufacturers. Now the handwriting seems to be on the wall that this is the way we're going to be moving - unfortunately, the infrastructure doesn't exist to support a full EV auto nation. Hybrids seemed like a much better alternative to me. We replaced a Honda Civic with a 2020 Fusion Hybrid. Wasn't sure I'd like a hybrid vehicle, but I've been pretty impressed - and it's a bit of a fun game now to try to keep the vehicle on the electric side of the power curve! MPG numbers went from high 20's to mid 40's in the city, which is where we do most of our driving. The Fusion doesn't reach what the Honda did on highway MPG, but it's not bad at high 30's to low 40's. Overall, the experience has been positive. Our second vehicle is a 2018 FORD Transit Connect. It's used mostly around town when needing to haul something, pull a small utility trailer, or take the dogs to the vet. When the Maverick was introduced, I started thinking it might make some sense to replace it. MPG numbers for the TC are low 20's in the city - the Maverick appears to be 40+, a considerable savings considering that gasoline around here is at about $3.50/gallon and I won't be surprised if that price continues to go up. And I get really tired of cleaning up the mulch and potting soil from the carpet in the back of the TC!! Anticipating that it will be much easier to blow out the bed of the Maverick! As far as the power of the Maverick goes, the Transit Connect is also more of a turtle than a rabbit - and if I feel the need for speed, I just jump in our third vehicle.

 

[Deleted member 1483]

Keep in mind that, even if you're road tripping a lot or otherwise doing a lot of highway miles, it's nearly impossible to hit 100% highway miles. So even at 80-90% highway miles you're looking at 15-20% better mileage (about 5-7 mpgs). Anyway, here's the efficiency/cost comps for driving mix based on the AWD EB and Hybrid.

What a high effort post, thanks!

 

[brnpttmn]

What a high effort post, thanks!

No problem. No effort at all. I made that table a couple months ago. 5 mins of work in excel. I've posted it a few times in various threads here.

 

[Hatonapug]

The EPA rates the EB at 23/30/26 or 22/29/25 and the hybrid at 42 city and 37 combined.

People claiming 33+ highway on the EB is 10% better than the EPA rating.

I have never seen an EPA rating off that far to the +.

We will not know the actual hybrid real world numbers until we get them on the road.

One size does not fit all.

I am 95% city driving, so for me, the difference is 19-20-ish mpg, 95% of the time and 2-3-4-5-ish mpg the other 5% of the time.

I am all in hybrid.

I got 31mpg avg and 36 mpg highway in a 2014 soul... It was rated 26 and 30... That's 20% better.

 

[stoptothink]

I got 31mpg avg and 36 mpg highway in a 2014 soul... It was rated 26 and 30... That's 20% better.

My jetta is rated at 40mpg highway, we average high 40's to low 50's. We have gotten from our home in Utah to my brother's in California (it's 658 miles) on a single 13.5 gallon tank about half a dozen times, with room to spare. Yes, it's dropping ~4500' of elevation, but we also do it on the way back. That's 48.5+ mpg, with a slight climb for almost 10 hours. We have always beaten EPA estimates by more than 10%, and yes I drive slow.

 

[icegradner]

EPA rating is base on mixed highway driving does it not? Which means they include driving up grades. If you drive on the flat lands and do a lot of highway driving it's not hard to exceed the rating. I get 4-5MPG better than my vehicle is rated for most of the time, unless I head into the mountains, then it goes down like a rock in a lake.

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