Reason why Hybrid Maverick interest so high? [WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[MimiE]

This thread also highlights the appeal and versatility of the Mav. It can satisfy the crowd that requires mileage and commutability along with the folks that need a bit more torque and towing....

The Mav community should represent quite a diverse section of people and how they use their new truck. There’s a place for all of us here!

This sums up the appeal of the Maverick quite nicely! Thank you for phrasing it so elegantly and yet succinctly!

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[tateconcepts]

Why so much interest in the hybrid? Just curious. Lower hp. Is mpg difference that important to many? Or is it cost?

So from an exec at one of these large companies. It's called economies of scale and law of diminishing returns. Electric models from everyone are on the way in (Rivian, Tesla, GM, Ford, Toyota and Subaru, Volvo, etc.) lobbyists on both party lines are pushing for more investment in this area. Oil companies need to sell more plastic in autos, need to sell more lithium salts for batteries to make up for oil - need to keep selling oil until that happens. Both Ford and all the other players in the automotive industries need the ball to keep rolling and the Maverick, like a few others help to keep demand for gas vehicles alive while the higher end models get the focus for EV. Hard to sell an EV today at a $40k price point AND be profitable, so this is a case where we see where the market takes this product.

No politics my dear sir, just business as usual.

 

[Arukoru]

Always wanted a truck but they are too expensive, need a new car because both of mine are on the way out, don't want to spend a lot of money, Maverick comes out and I realize that its just a more flexible crossover basically with better mpg. The heaviest thing I'll ever haul is probably a refrigerator or maybe some lumber. I plan to get a cover + spray and then treat the bed as a trunk until I need to use it as a truckbed.

 

[Camlt12010]

I will absolutely argue with the sales person, my source is I've driven a hybrid Ford for 10 years, my wife had one for 5 and now she has a plug in hybrid.

Her plug in hybrid gets about 36 miles, more or less depending on how you are driving, in pure electric when it is fully charged. Well, it isn't 100% pure electric, if you floor it the ICE will still kick in for the extra power. Then when you run out of battery it acts like a regular hybrid and uses regen braking to charge the battery back up.

Another example is the jeep wrangler 4xe, it is a plug in hybrid that gets about 25 miles electric only on a full charge. The difference between it and my wifes is that the jeep lets you select between three modes - electric only (really mostly), hybrid mix, or gas only. So if you want to save the battery until you get on the trail, you can set it to gas only for the drive there and have a full battery when you get to the trailhead.

My hybrid does not plug in, it is more like the mav and the cmax and escape hybrids before the mav. The battery is a whole, whole lot smaller than the plug in hybrid batteries (which are a whole lot smaller than 100% EV batteries). I might drive in pure electric only for a block or two downtown going slow in traffic, or going through a parking garage. But it is only for short distances and low speeds. Most of the time, the electric motor and the gas motor are working at the same time together, in a hybrid mode. So the battery motor gives the gas motor extra push.

You're telling me about other hybrid vehicles. I'm telling you what my ford dealer relayed to me. I never had one so he was telling me all about the Maverick hybrid.

 

[Red Ryder]

TCO, as huunvubu indicated.

I had an Excape with the 2.3L predecessor to this engine (MZR line), and put 266,000 trouble-free miles on it, the current owner reportedly over 300K now.

That, and being able to guiltlessly "joyride" through the mountains or other leisure driving while maintaining sufficent utility and capability.

 

[jwesterly]

My first instinct was that the hybrid would be a wildly hot seller to the fleet market (besides us). You car aficionados have probably seen the vehicle of choice that did the daily resupply of parts in tote boxes to the pepboys, o'reilly, autozone (and an occasional crate motor) from the distribution center was a ford ranger. Same for the cvs, walgreens etc and probably many other big chains. City vehicles for parking enforcement, building inspection, animal control, street maintenance, etc were also ford rangers. And the water and gas utilities used them for meter reading. Acquisition cost, maintenance cost, and operating cost were all important factors in their choice. I thought the hybrid maverick would become the ideal replacement - though in more wet or snowy states the vehicle of choice might be different.
Those auto parts suppliers are still driving earlier rangers, but I have to admit many city vehicles have transitioned to prii, and a few leafs (having installed a few free charging stations citywide). And a funny story of reality occurred: many years ago, a family gathering from hundreds of miles around and we got a laugh as it looked like a toyota car lot with 4 prii, 2 siennas and a four runner only! Fast forward to today, the prii have become the children's college cars, the parents bought teslas and some are looking at a 2nd next model up. The switch to electrification is happening so fast! Still, purchase cost and utility may dictate more of the decision for the fleet buyers. - and to satisfy those tending toward full electric, a phev hybrid might win them over.
And finally, there are dozens of cities (ny, los angeles, austin, chicago, boston, seattle, san jose, etc) where 10mph gridlock traffic is all too common. Govt epa numbers become meaningless. The efficient use of fuel of a hybrid or bev shines over the always running standard ice.

 

[AUTUS_FL]

For me - it is both an MPG issue and an emissions issue. I like the idea of a truck - but have always shied away because of the MPG/emissions. I really like the idea of an environmentally responsible truck.

A fleet of over 120K+ Hybrids will reduce their carbon footprint drastically, improve mpg and its price is well under $40k.
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[ChopperPilot6]

Yeah MPG is super important, plus the base price is less than the ecoboost so savings all around. Poor gas mileage and higher sticker prices were the main reasons I hadn’t bought a pick up truck so far. Ford totally eliminated both those obstacles. I don’t need the extra power, 190 hp is entirely sufficient.

 

[HITruck]

MPG for sure, and as soon as someone makes a small truck that's electric, I'll trade in for that. The F-150 Lightening is just way more of a beast than I need. Our car is electric and I'm already bummed that I have to get a gas vehicle (there's no getting around it - we need a truck), and the Maverick Hybrid makes me less sad than the other options.

 

[Terrenceyao]

MPG for me. No need for HP, i just need the bed so i can transport my motorcycle to the track and go fast there. And having a bed means i can carpool with a friend and take 2 motorcycles. It’s wasteful to take 2 separate vehicles to transport 2 people and 2 motorcycles and both vehicles only getting 20mpg. One vehicle, 2 people, 2 motorcycles, and mid 30’s mpg (i’ll assume it’s lower loaded with people, bikes, and gear). The rest of the time, i’m just commuting to work and i’m in no rush to get there in the morning. Not like you can go fast in traffic anyway.

 

[ttthhasdf]

You're telling me about other hybrid vehicles. I'm telling you what my ford dealer relayed to me. I never had one so he was telling me all about the Maverick hybrid.

I'm trying to give you real world examples to help you understand how a hybrid works in reality.

First, the mav didn't just fall out of the sky as a whole new thing. It is the descendant of my ford escape hybrid and my wife's ford cmax.

Second, I am trying to use examples to explain to you that there is a difference between a traditional hybrid and a plug in hybrid. A plug in hybrid would behave the way the dealer is telling you. The maverick available at this time is not a plug in hybrid and will not behave that way.

I am honest when I say I would be happy to explain that difference to the dealer.

The reality is, the maverick has a battery that is far smaller than the batteries in a plug in hybrid, and it is not possible for it to go 20 miles on battery. It is not intended to, and the dealer is making things up.

 

[Bayview boy]

Our reason is the fuel economy, less fumes being spewed in the air. We have no need for an oversized pick up truck. The standard size pick up will be a chore for us to get into considering our ages. Our travel trailer weighs 3,850 pounds , close to the maximum towing of the Ecoboost.

 

[Camlt12010]

I'm trying to give you real world examples to help you understand how a hybrid works in reality.

First, the mav didn't just fall out of the sky as a whole new thing. It is the descendant of my ford escape hybrid and my wife's ford cmax.

Second, I am trying to use examples to explain to you that there is a difference between a traditional hybrid and a plug in hybrid. A plug in hybrid would behave the way the dealer is telling you. The maverick available at this time is not a plug in hybrid and will not behave that way.

I am honest when I say I would be happy to explain that difference to the dealer.

The reality is, the maverick has a battery that is far smaller than the batteries in a plug in hybrid, and it is not possible for it to go 20 miles on battery. It is not intended to, and the dealer is making things up.

So I currently own a hybrid car and there is a massive difference in battery size between a plug in hybrid and a standard hybrid. The maverick is a standard hybrid and from what I have read has a 1.5 kWh battery. 1.5 kWh would probably get the maverick in the range of 2-5 miles depending on driving conditions. For most likely that exact reason Ford has not included any way to force the hybrid to stay in electric only mode. I would really try and find an escape hybrid or another to test drive to see how it works. Usually the infotainment has a display that shows how power is moving around the system. Also from my personal experience the hybrid system in my cars still does a lot of work on the highway. It will run on just electric motor even at 75 mph for short distances and the ioniq only has a 46 hp electric motor compared to the Maverick's 132hp.

The Maverick has a 132 hp electric motor?

I've always wanted a truck, but I don't "need" one so it's been impossible to justify the cost of buying one and also they're all far too large and far too thirsty. I was shopping for a Prius when I learned about the Maverick. It seems very promising. It checks all the boxes for me, and rings in at under $30k making it one of the cheaper vehicles I've bought.

I would not buy an Ecoboost Maverick, period. But I think the hybrid Maverick is the best new car deal out there.

I'd get one if it were a AWD. For me a truck needs to be AWD or 4WD.

 

[brnpttmn]

The Maverick has a 132 hp electric motor?

Yes, but it's limited to 126 HP in the Maverick configuration.

 

[Camlt12010]

Yes, but it's limited to 126 HP in the Maverick configuration.

Doesn't make sense the engine is 126 HP and 191 combined.

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