Maverick Hybrid transmission fluid change at 150,000 miles?

[AVC]

The truth is, you probably don't have to change it at all unless you are really hard on it. Most people won't and they will be fine.

THIS IS NOT A TRANSMISSION LIKE ANY OTHER in the past, unless you had an Escape or Fusion Hybrid.

These planetary transmissions are very gentle on the oil and they never get hotter than 20 degrees above whatever ambient is. Really.

Agree. Mechanically the eCVT is more similar to a manual transmission than a traditional automatic, CVT, dual clutch, etc., as it deletes any friction-based components (clutches, bands...) or a torque converter that causes deterioration of fluid by sheer.

IMO, changing fluid maybe every 60k or even at 100k intervals mi may be beneficial to remove small amounts of circulating metallic particulates, or any fluid deterioration causes by the heat from friction and motors.

As '22 hybrids gather miles--most likely to have high miles in the near future-- it would be interesting to observe reports of fluid condition at 60k to 100k miles.

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[Tim d]

The hybrid transmission doesn't shift through gears, so there are fewer opportunities for mechanical wear. There are no synchros or clutches that would break down over time and contaminate like traditional transmissions.

I might change my fluid once before 150k, but there are better uses for my money than changing it every 30k like my other vehicle's 10-speed.

Agree. I have two 15 year old dodges with lifetime fluid, if I would have changed it every 30 thousand miles that would be alot of money wasted by now. One person said he changes trans fluid once a year.that would have been 30 times so far with my 2 vehicles instead of never!

 

[HeyBales]

I'll add that the Car Care Nut when discussing Toyota hybrids with similar tranny and service interval, mentions 150K won't be optimal if you desire to go a lot farther than that, but it would likely get past the warranty period no problem.

And he discusses in other videos even with Toyota the fight between engineer true recommendations and what marketing is able to get in the manual so it appears lower cost of ownership, at least thru the warranty period.

I'm planning 75K. Assuming Ford's version is as good as Toyota's.

 

[The Real Maverick]

The hybrid transmission doesn't shift through gears, so there are fewer opportunities for mechanical wear. There are no synchros or clutches that would break down over time and contaminate like traditional transmissions.

I might change my fluid once before 150k, but there are better uses for my money than changing it every 30k like my other vehicle's 10-speed.

100% this.

 

[The Real Maverick]

There is also the theory of:

The Act of changing can do harm.
You could damage the threads of the drain plug. You could let dust or moisture in that wasn't there before.

You could add the wrong fluid or a bad batch of fluid. You could dislodge some harmless sediment. And more.

While each has a small probability, cumulatively those small probabilities add up.

 

[FreedomPenguin]

Do you guys think this is a good fluid for hybrids? I only ask because I use primarily amsoil fluids. or its get lower MPG etc because it says severe usage

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-sig...tomatic-transmission-fluid-ulv/?code=ULVPK-EA

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Do you guys think this is a good fluid for hybrids? I only ask because I use primarily amsoil fluids. or its get lower MPG etc because it says severe usage

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-sig...tomatic-transmission-fluid-ulv/?code=ULVPK-EA

Does it have the additives to protect the polymer coatings of the windings of the electric motors?

 

[FreedomPenguin]

Does it have the additives to protect the polymer coatings of the windings of the electric motors?

I have no idea, it says in the title thing I posted, hf45 trans which google says it's the hybrid trans. so id reckon yes? dont know

found this son the page

https://www.amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3110.pdf

 

[inline_five]

Do you guys think this is a good fluid for hybrids? I only ask because I use primarily amsoil fluids. or its get lower MPG etc because it says severe usage

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-sig...tomatic-transmission-fluid-ulv/?code=ULVPK-EA

Why use Amsoil? Ford ULV is $6/qt at Rock Auto. Ford has a history of using extremely good fluids.

 

[FreedomPenguin]

Why use Amsoil? Ford ULV is $6/qt at Rock Auto. Ford has a history of using extremely good fluids.

dunno. I have a 15 year membership, so yearly I just order everything at once, mowers, motorcycles, cars, backup generators, just convenience. I think it's still good for another 6 years or so before membership expires

back when used to ride motorcycles on the track with a big group, I was the amsoil supplier/dealer. so I made $$$$ off the orders. now im just a consumer account. but still got a long lasting account lol.

 

[HeyBales]

Break out your manual for required fluid specs to meet warranty.
Of course if you go to 150K doesn't matter.
You planning out for 150K already?
What's the manual say?

 

[FreedomPenguin]

Break out your manual for required fluid specs to meet warranty.
Of course if you go to 150K doesn't matter.
You planning out for 150K already?
What's the manual say?

I was just considering long term ownership, will change the fluid out at 100k. I do a lot of major services at like 50/100/150/200k when all said and done and im out of warranty, its going to be 100% amsoil vehicle lol

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Just an FYI moment. (At least check fluid level every so often?)
Out of an escape, I think.

 

[The Real Maverick]

Just an FYI moment. (At least check fluid level every so often?)
Out of an escape, I think.

Good video. I like seeing those.
That was a high mileage tear down.
(300,000 km / 186,400 mi)
Not sure how or if changing the fluid more often would have changed anything. Other than early detecting fluid was low, if fluid was low earlier in its life.

Note all the gears were in great shape.
Common everyday bearings failed.

 

[Phimosis]

The owners Manuel says change at 150,000 miles…. Is this really a good idea? Seems high. I got the hybrid

Do I think that is a good idea? No. That is just the executives being overly conservative to help dealerships generate more revenue from unnecessary service and to help quell the fear mongering of the unenlightened. I just refill the oil, but don’t change it. Something else will fail long before the transmission does.

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