Hybrid: winter engine temp?

[The Real Maverick]

Can anyone show me what the radiator cover looks like and where to buy a radiator cover for winter?

You can get any number of "generic" one-size-fits-most covers from any number of sources. You can get them with velcro, bungee straps, or snap-on connections.

I've not had the need to look for a Maverick specific one. Some, like one I had 18 years ago had two layers. One was a bug screen you kept on year round. Keeps bugs and small rocks out of your radiator and there was a second cover that blocked the air for winter use.

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[MakinDoForNow]

Can anyone show me what the radiator cover looks like and where to buy a radiator cover for winter?

My 2022 hybrid came with automatic radiator shutters that due to a recall the bottom 2 or 3 were removed by a recall. I assume the newer ones not subject to recall have a full set to block air through the radiator.

 

[Cherokee]

So the hybrid engine runs at a low or below normal operational temps. Because it’s not always on.
So in town your stopping and restarting a cold or colder than normal engine over and over ?
Heating up and cooling it down. That has got to be hard on any motor. Did Ford do something special to help the engine deal with all that heat cycling ?

I would think that is when the most engine wear occurs would it not ?

Second question from an Eco driver that may consider a hybrid for my next truck if fuel heads north if $5 a gallon.
Anyone have to replace the power batteries yet ?
I heard on a Lightening forum the main battery pack was way way north of $40,000.

Way back in the day a friend bought a used Prius with 180,000 miles. He got it cheap.
A new battery pack set him back only $2,400

Signed, a very curious internal combustion aficionado.
I’d want to know before I buy one because after this 2024 Eco AWD Lariat wears out I will most likely be looking at my last new car.
I have many times taken my vehicles past 350,000 miles with no problems. I’ve always installed larger transmission intercoolers using sound math to not over cool in the Florida heat where I grew up.
Never lost a tranny even in my Tacoma 2.7 Ltr that lasted 528,000 trouble free miles, then started loosing compression. Imagine that !

if someone kept a Hybrid Mav my mind says they would loose all the savings benefit of the hybrid mpg’s and then some when replacing the battery pack.
My simple math on the Ford F-150 Lightening bright the long term Mpg saving past zero way into the negative.
After a replacement battery the lifetime mpg’s would be right back in line with a big V-8
If Hybrid tech is not a better than average investment long term I’ll not get one.
I don’t plan on living forever.

 

[NedF]

So the hybrid engine runs at a low or below normal operational temps. Because it’s not always on.
So in town your stopping and restarting a cold or colder than normal engine over and over ?
I would think that is when the most engine wear occurs would it not ?
Second question from an Eco driver that may consider a hybrid for my next truck if fuel heads north if $5 a gallon.
Anyone have to replace the power batteries yet ?
I heard on a Lightening forum the main battery pack was way way north of $40,000.
Signed a very curious internal combustion aficionado.

If you use the specified oil the wear at start would be minimal and consistent with any ICE, The ICE does not stay off very long when "Ready" so subsequent starts would not have any additional "start" wear as the oil is already distributed. The HV Battery is much smaller in the Maverick than a EV Lightning... I have heard $3,000 - $4,000 mentioned as the replacement cost and unless you have a faulty battery which would be replaced on warranty it's doubtful you would ever have to replace the HV battery.

 

[710-oil-614]

In my opinion.
I consider the Maverick hybrid A/C outstanding even at 117°+
The heater only mediocre when the engine is cycling on and off constantly.
If I lived back in the upper midwest, I would want the Ecoboost for sure.

My big issue is that when the ICE engine isn't to operating temp the auto fan speed tends to stay much higher than it would once the EB reaches temp.

 

[Cherokee]

I would assume like the Prius of old the Lithium tech has improved. I would assume a battery would last at least 200,000 miles or 7-8 years ?
$4,000
Still that’s a lot of gas, I’ll have to waste some time on the calculator.
Thanks for the intelligent answer..

 

[MakinDoForNow]

I would assume like the Prius of old the Lithium tech has improved. I would assume a battery would last at least 200,000 miles or 7-8 years ?
$4,000
Still that’s a lot of gas, I’ll have to waste some time on the calculator.
Thanks for the intelligent answer..

Factor in that deducting 1/3 of all gas put in from the replacement cost of the battery is $$$$ savings the battery furnished. Also as the battery loses capacity over its warranted 10 year life, the majority of battery gas savings is saved by using SOC from 30-50%. Probably running with 100% ice would still yield decent mpg. Someone posted they purchased an HVB salvage takeout for about $800-$900 if I remember correctly.

 

[TheSEARCH]

Well lets say 14K miles a year Eco does average 26 mpg the Hybrid 37 mpg . Lets also use gas at 3 a gallon. So 14000 / 26 = 539 gallons. 14000/ 37= 378 gallons. At 3 a gallon Eco is $1617 and Hybrid $1134 in gas. So saved $434 per year . So in 9 years after 8 year 100K warranty runs out on HV battery. You have saved $4347 to pay for HV battery . The 1.1 kilowatt not sure on cost BUT I bet around 3 to 4 k maybe. Maybe less not

This assumes it WILL go bad. Plus assumes 3 a gallon gas and 14 K a year mileage driven.

Now no need to tell me how you get higher mpg. Many factors change that like SPEED. Live in TX speed limit over 80 mph I think? Live in NY 65 mph top. mpg drops quite fast as you go faster. like me I mainly drive 60 or slower. Plus cold winter lowers mpg . This winter for me has been super cold compared to last winter. Down several mpg to last winter.

 

[Cherokee]

Well lets say 14K miles a year Eco does average 26 mpg the Hybrid 37 mpg . Lets also use gas at 3 a gallon. So 14000 / 26 = 539 gallons. 14000/ 37= 378 gallons. At 3 a gallon Eco is $1617 and Hybrid $1134 in gas. So saved $434 per year . So in 9 years after 8 year 100K warranty runs out on HV battery. You have saved $4347 to pay for HV battery . The 1.1 kilowatt not sure on cost BUT I bet around 3 to 4 k maybe. Maybe less not

This assumes it WILL go bad. Plus assumes 3 a gallon gas and 14 K a year mileage driven.

Now no need to tell me how you get higher mpg. Many factors change that like SPEED. Live in TX speed limit over 80 mph I think? Live in NY 65 mph top. mpg drops quite fast as you go faster. like me I mainly drive 60 or slower. Plus cold winter lowers mpg . This winter for me has been super cold compared to last winter. Down several mpg to last winter.

Are all these low temp lower MPG's factored In to your figures ?

 

[vandeda2024]

Are all these low temp lower MPG's factored In to your figures ?

Personally, I have no idea how the Maverick will fair as I've had it less than a week, and so far have only driven it home from the dealer (I'm close to work, so I typically ride my bike ... though the -8F day was quite cold lol).

However, I traded in a Prius V. My experience is in summer I beat the estimate by a few mpg, and in winter (upstate NY, so can get quite cold) I'm under the estimates by a few mpg. In the end, it averaged out to about the estimated combined mpg.

Hopefully I'll have the same experience with the Maverick.

 

[Don806]

I own an ordered 2022 Hybrid XLT, live in cold Canada….since ownership I have been concerned by the indicated temp on the gauge. In mind, the gauge should always read mid temp, winter summer highway town…an ICE makes and needs heat to run at its peak. Has anyone put a winter front on the grill or gawd forbid, cardboard over the radiator? If so did it raise the ICE temp ? At 100 kmh its hard to keep the cabin warm and the windows clear. Rear seat passengers need a throw blanket to be comfortable at -20 C in this vehicle. Thoughts?

in my 22, I found the back seat HVAC was blocked by the all weather floor mats, so I plugged up part of it and connected vinyl tubing to it and routed it beside the center console to the back seat, mostly for air for the dog when she's in the back, but it helped a bit with heat also.

 

[Cherokee]

(I'm close to work, so I typically ride my bike ... though the -8F day was quite cold lol).

You ride a bike in -8F !!! Are you cwazy ??

 

[vandeda2024]

You ride a bike in -8F !!! Are you cwazy ??

2 miles only takes about 10-15 minutes or so. Layers, some homemade lotion with beeswax on exposed facial skin, and putting my gloves/boots in front of the woodstove to get nice and toasty warm make the ride bearable.

I get some exercise, and it's good for the car(s) as they never get anywhere near warmed up in such a short drive on such a cold day.

 

[SoonerBrink]

We have had temps in the high 30s and as low as single digits here recently. In this range the engine temp runs too cold. I monitor temp with scan gauge. I have no clue about long term engine reliability with the engine running about 130 degrees, but I know it's a huge waste on gas trying to run the heat. With city driving, the engine will keep running when high voltage battery is maxxed out, just to keep the temp above 130 to run the heat, then it will shut off. Not an issue with highway driving, but low speed and stop and go city, the engine will not get and stay warm in cold weather. I can't imagine those in below 0 weather. Perhaps the programming to keep the grill opened really hurt winter efficiency.

 

[Cherokee]

2 miles only takes about 10-15 minutes or so. Layers, some homemade lotion with beeswax on exposed facial skin, and putting my gloves/boots in front of the woodstove to get nice and toasty warm make the ride bearable.

I get some exercise, and it's good for the car(s) as they never get anywhere near warmed up in such a short drive on such a cold day.

For Christmas my wife bought me a $120 pair of heated leather gloves,
So I can ride my Terra Trike Rambler All Terrain,
They work great.

But when it hits single digit temps I go toes up on the couch, watch Net Flix and drink her home made hot chocolate.

She uses Judy’s 1200 year old hot coco recipe.
Not too hot,
Extra Chocolate,
Shaken,
Not stirred.
:’P

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