hybrid torque?

[MakinDoForNow]

I saw that, but when I use the electric motor it doesn't act like it has that much torque. I don't think Ford would spend the extra money to put a powerful electric motor and then not make it usable. Maybe the battery can't supply enough power to maximize the motor's potential so it only puts out full power when the engine is running, but I don't know enough about the battery to say of that's reasonable or not.

There is no wasted torque. Depending on how much torque you are requesting the computer will furnish that selecting the source through the planetary gear set. If the ice needs to be started the starter generator can do that very quickly and the armature does not have to reverse direction when it switches from start (motor) mode to generate mode as that is handled electrically. Once started the ice can supply some, all, or none of the torque directly to the gear set. Most of the time the computer will be balancing the distribution.

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[MakinDoForNow]

I saw that, but when I use the electric motor it doesn't act like it has that much torque. I don't think Ford would spend the extra money to put a powerful electric motor and then not make it usable. Maybe the battery can't supply enough power to maximize the motor's potential so it only puts out full power when the engine is running, but I don't know enough about the battery to say of that's reasonable or not.

If you want more perceived torque put hybrid into sport mode. (???)

 

[gorignak]

If you want more perceived torque put hybrid into sport mode. (???)

I don't want more torque overall. When I push the gas pedal the truck has so much more power than any other vehicle I've had. The lack of torque is only in pure electric mode. Even in eco mode the power response and switch from electric to hybrid are great.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

I don't want more torque overall. When I push the gas pedal the truck has so much more power than any other vehicle I've had. The lack of torque is only in pure electric mode. Even in eco mode the power response and switch from electric to hybrid are great.

Hummm I do not have any idea what the battery temps would have to be to get maximum draw amps from the battery. In any case I would expect it to be quite high and the ice would have to be running for some time to get battery temp high enough to operate with high draws. I'm sorry but I am not understanding what you are expecting. I will pay closer attention to mine and see if I can detect how electric miles differ from hybrid miles and even all ice only miles.

 

[gorignak]

Hummm I do not have any idea what the battery temps would have to be to get maximum draw amps from the battery. In any case I would expect it to be quite high and the ice would have to be running for some time to get battery temp high enough to operate with high draws. I'm sorry but I am not understanding what you are expecting. I will pay closer attention to mine and see if I can detect how electric miles differ from hybrid miles and even all ice only miles.

I don't expect any more than I get from the electric motors. My original post was a response to someone saying that the electric motors are the same as in a previous generation of the powertrain and should have lots of power.

I once went down a very long hill and before I reached the end of the hill the regenerative braking stopped working, so I'm guessing that the battery was full. When I reached the bottom I used the hybrid coach display to max out the electric output and even with the battery presumably as full as it will every be there just wasn't that much electric only power. So I am not convinced that it has the same electric motor as the previous generation powertrain since it would be a waste to use such a powerful motor and limit it so much. I think the motor is probably less powerful since that serves the purpose of the Maverick just fine. If I want to go faster I just push the pedal more and it goes. If I want to use only electric power I have to be careful about how much I push.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

I don't expect any more than I get from the electric motors. My original post was a response to someone saying that the electric motors are the same as in a previous generation of the powertrain and should have lots of power.

I once went down a very long hill and before I reached the end of the hill the regenerative braking stopped working, so I'm guessing that the battery was full. When I reached the bottom I used the hybrid coach display to max out the electric output and even with the battery presumably as full as it will every be there just wasn't that much electric only power. So I am not convinced that it has the same electric motor as the previous generation powertrain since it would be a waste to use such a powerful motor and limit it so much. I think the motor is probably less powerful since that serves the purpose of the Maverick just fine. If I want to go faster I just push the pedal more and it goes. If I want to use only electric power I have to be careful about how much I push.

Ok understand how you are looking at this. So (not in any necessary order but here are what I believe you should consider). The long downhill Regen braking would charge the battery which when charged to a certain level but almost certainly not to 100% in order to have Regen braking capacity held in reserve to assist the hydraulic brakes for things like the precollision braking. The ice probably is running and providing some of current but mainly to actively wait for any necessary engine braking since computer is prepping for another downhill stretch and Regen braking is not now available. I read where the electric motors were in fact changed and do have increased capacity. The computer will determine using all conditions when to turn ice on only one being your pedal push. I would believe that the computer has a good reason to use the ice after the long downhill and would suspect that putting in all those downhill amps that the battery has been warmed up to a point that it is better to cool it down some before withdrawing a large amount of current. Only the computer knows??? Believe that the computer will withdraw current from the battery to lower it's state of charge to a lower level over the next few miles and at appropriate time reactivate cruise.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Regen braking not cruise.

 

[Darnon]

There's more parts to the system than the motor assembly itself. The theoretical max the motor can handle may be 92kW but there's also the limit of how much the inverter/converter delivers and in turn the battery to it.

I certainly had hoped for a bit more power limit with the Maverick, but as is it's about on par with my Fusion Hybrid. The exception being the Fusion had an EV+ mode it auto switched to where it could temporarily drive a bit more power about 1/4 mile from frequent destinations (home/work mostly).

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