Hybrid thoughts

[Cherokee]

Love my hybrid. At 70mph getting approx 35 mpg. I drive about 2700 miles a month. No complaints

At 70 mph I do 29-30,
At 85 mph I do 30-31 mpg
It’s an Eco boost thing.

But ! In my Appalachian mountains, all ups and downs and curves I do 27 mpg.
I don’t do enough city to know.

Another guy up here averages 41 mpg in these mountains in his AWD MavBrid.
But 3 to 4 months out if the year in winter he drops to 25 mpg.
And due to my warm ups I drop to 26 mpg.
It’s a wash to me so I’m glad I got a turbo.

Zoom Zoom !
I’m never ever going to grow up,
I can’t drive 55 !

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[26mavxlt]

Not a Ford fan, but I bought my 2023 hybrid because it was the right size. $36,000 OTD, had all the toys except sunroof. No "deals" in those days. Lucky not to have to pay over sticker. The other day, my wife and I were cruising along and I said, "God help me, but I really like this little truck. I would like it better if it was a Toyota or Honda, but I still like it."
Then, I realized that the part I like best, the hybrid system, was developed by Ford AND Toyota. The Mavericks and the Toyota trucks are built in Mexico, so even on that point. Toyota has (foolishly in my opinion) gone turbo, so I won't be buying one of those.
Getting 38.4 overall for 18,000 miles. I'm satisfied. Until something else catches my eye.

I like my hybrid so far, just got back from same trip I did last year in my 2022 Tacoma and really enjoyed not stopping for gas as often. I liked my Tacoma TRD off/road great HP comfy leather moonroof and all that but the milage at 19-20 average just sucked and I also don`t like the way Toyota gone turbo and not much better mpg so that got me looking at the Mav AWD Hybrid. Also the Tacoma is a heavy little truck and you notice it when driving, the Mav feels light and very responsive and I like that too as I am an old hotrodder and enjoy performance side of driving. I also like that I paid over 10k less for my Mav and yes both were made in Mexico, I think my 2022 was first year of Mexico production

 

[Suzukiridr14]

Can anyone explain the customer cash back?
Hybrid
I see for new 25’s….a 1,000 rebate
There is also a $1,500 loyalty bonus cash

Can these be used together?

I didn't know they were giving rebates, or loyalty bonus deals. You would have to go to your dealer and ask about that. Second though, maybe that's a way to lure you in?

 

[Master Blaster]

Love my hybrid. At 70mph getting approx 35 mpg. I drive about 2700 miles a month. No complaints

At 60mph it should get around 45mpg, and at 50mph it will get almost 55mpg. It is not a great idea to pick high-speed highways with a vehicle like a truck, that has the aerodynamics of a brick.

 

[Suzukiridr14]

I get your point….Round trip for the week of work is like 12 miles
Week getting grandson at school when bad weather about 10 miles max

Running daughter to work for the week maybe 10 miles with that too for the week

Weekly or bi weekly a 30 mile round trip for groceries

I agree completely with you. There isn't much cost difference on savings with either choice. I would get which drive train came standard with my Maverick. Paying $1500 upgrade for a hybrid, would take you many years to break even.

 

[Suzukiridr14]

X plan doc fee should only be $100 says Ford

Yes, that's what Sarasota Ford charged me.

 

[Master Blaster]

I agree completely with you. There isn't much cost difference on savings with either choice. I would get which drive train came standard with my Maverick. Paying $1500 upgrade for a hybrid, would take you many years to break even.

Most people make poor decisions and ignore the running costs of a vehicle when making a purchase. Work out the fuel costs between the two drivetrains at 28mpg and 48mpg. The payback for most people is under 2 years.

 

[MaverRick]

You just want a new toy, :’P
I drive about 13,000 per year,
I’m very lucky in the fact that I can afford the gas even at $5.00 a gallon.

If gas gets up to $7 or $8 per gallon the
Mavbrids will be unobtainable and I might want one but it will be too late right !

I test drove the Mavbrid,
I did not like it at all.

I test drove the Ecoboost,
Zoom Zoom !

Bought the 24 AWD Eco Lariat,
I’m good.

It really depends on your situation. I used to drive about 20k miles per year but now retired I’m only doing about 5k. I test drove both as well and decided to go with the EcoB I’m good with it as well!

 

[Ohio44890]

Appreciate all your input and apologies for my off and on about a different Mav
It would take yrs and yrs to make up the financial difference of my trade in
Driving only 350 miles a month

best thing to do is keep mine and stop looking at others

 

[HeyBales]

Merely curious since I ran the numbers myself before spending the extra $1500 for hybrid, and the extra now $70 annual registration (was 50 when I got it), and my typical 10k annual miles is considered lower mileage (not low enough for insurance though!), and around here gas was $3.10 when I got it but dropped well below 3, and over last 2 full years is only 2.77 avg. And easily 1/10 of mileage is highway long trips with worse mileage.

Your 4200 annual @ say $3.75 fuel (though likely to go back down short term).

Hybrid @ 42 cty for majority of your driving. (I think with your colder/longer winter it'll be less, and if flat part of OH less again)
EB @ 23 cty (also winter impact but not more than hybrid ICE running more, may be higher depending on how you drive it)
100 gal vs 183 gal.
$375 vs 686 fuel cost.
Savings of $311.

Less OH current annual $100 extra hybrid registration fee.
(ETA: another thread shared that OH calls the Maverick a light duty truck and this extra hybrid fee doesn't apply - so $311 total)

So the potential annual savings of $211 $300 (less when fuel goes down, less if reg goes up, less if worse mpg) is your figure for the trade and extra cost of new truck.

Hopefully OH gives a cut in sales tax with selling the old, and maybe a cut in initial registration on the new (KS does not), insurance likely about the same.

 

[Ohio44890]

Merely curious since I ran the numbers myself before spending the extra $1500 for hybrid, and the extra now $70 annual registration (was 50 when I got it), and my typical 10k annual miles is considered lower mileage (not low enough for insurance though!), and around here gas was $3.10 when I got it but dropped well below 3, and over last 2 full years is only 2.77 avg. And easily 1/10 of mileage is highway long trips with worse mileage.

Your 4200 annual @ say $3.75 fuel (though likely to go back down short term).

Hybrid @ 42 cty for majority of your driving. (I think with your colder/longer winter it'll be less, and if flat part of OH less again)
EB @ 23 cty (also winter impact but not more than hybrid ICE running more, may be higher depending on how you drive it)
100 gal vs 183 gal.
$375 vs 686 fuel cost.
Savings of $311.

Less OH current annual $100 extra hybrid registration fee.

So the potential annual savings of $211 (less when fuel goes down, less if reg goes up, less if worse mpg) is your figure for the trade and extra cost of new truck.

Hopefully OH gives a cut in sales tax with selling the old, and maybe a cut in initial registration on the new (KS does not), insurance likely about the same.

yes they take off the trade for sales tax…
Sales tax is only like $600

 

[HeyBales]

Merely curious since I ran the numbers myself before spending the extra $1500 for hybrid, and the extra now $70 annual registration (was 50 when I got it), and my typical 10k annual miles is considered lower mileage (not low enough for insurance though!), and around here gas was $3.10 when I got it but dropped well below 3, and over last 2 full years is only 2.77 avg. And easily 1/10 of mileage is highway long trips with worse mileage.

Your 4200 annual @ say $3.75 fuel (though likely to go back down short term).

Hybrid @ 42 cty for majority of your driving. (I think with your colder/longer winter it'll be less, and if flat part of OH less again)
EB @ 23 cty (also winter impact but not more than hybrid ICE running more, may be higher depending on how you drive it)
100 gal vs 183 gal.
$375 vs 686 fuel cost.
Savings of $311.

Less OH current annual $100 extra hybrid registration fee.

So the potential annual savings of $211 (less when fuel goes down, less if reg goes up, less if worse mpg) is your figure for the trade and extra cost of new truck.

Hopefully OH gives a cut in sales tax with selling the old, and maybe a cut in initial registration on the new (KS does not), insurance likely about the same.

See - now I did the math on my 2 complete years since this got me curious.
22631 miles @ 37.5 mpg (matches EPA mixed driving 37) = 602 gal @ $2.80 = $1686

EB with same mixed driving EPA figure @ 27 mpg = 838 gal = $2321.
Savings of $635 total.
Leaving out 3rd yr extra registration I paid - less $100.
$535 total savings so far.

$1500 extra paid.
Looks like if these averages keep up (though higher gas & reg) - it'll take 6 years to break even.
Then I'll start to save money. As it's breaking down. Glad I got extended warranty!
Ooop - should I calculate that in?

 

[sprubs]

really depends on your driving. do a lot of highway? no real hybrid advantage. do a lot of stop and go and lower speed driving? hybrid.

I rarely go on the highway so the hybrid is working out great for me.

 

[BRAT]

Even with my highway driving which is a lot . I get great mileage. In the city it's amazing

 

[Ohio44890]

really depends on your driving. do a lot of highway? no real hybrid advantage. do a lot of stop and go and lower speed driving? hybrid.

I rarely go on the highway so the hybrid is working out great for me.

I mostly do stop and go driving 90% of the time

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