How concerned are you with the possible UAW strike?

[Deleted member 14823]

I have my Mav.

What? Me worry?

I'd feel the same if it was more sturdy. But then we keep hearing about Mavericks being declared a total loss by the insurance company after a passing dog farts on the back bumper and bends the frame. All it takes is one moron who's looking at their phone instead of seeing your brake lights.

We're living in an era of disposable cars only now the store is always out of them.

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[Esteban88]

Back when the automakers were in financial trouble the UAW agreed to give-backs. The union is now trying to regain what they lost. The big three have been posting record profits for the past 10 years while the starting pay for new hires is about $16 and hour and there are no cost of living increases. Executives have rewarded themselves with outrageous compensation, for Jim Farley it's $21 million.

They probably won't strike against all three, I expect Stellantis to be targeted because they've refused to negotiate in good faith.

 

[fossil]

Back when the automakers were in financial trouble the UAW agreed to give-backs. The union is now trying to regain what they lost. The big three have been posting record profits for the past 10 years while the starting pay for new hires is about $16 and hour and there are no cost of living increases. Executives have rewarded themselves with outrageous compensation, for Jim Farley it's $21 million.

They probably won't strike against all three, I expect Stellantis to be targeted because they've refused to negotiate in good faith.

Ford will throw a couple grand signing bonus at the workers instead of a hourly raise like they've been doing for a couple decades.
UAW gave Ford the 2 tier wage system during the great recession to help and now wants to eliminate it, pretty big issue. They also gave up indirect labor jobs like house keeping to outside contractors.
$21M, that's just over $10,000.00 per hour, cha-ching.

 

[K5Blazer]

I'd feel the same if it was more sturdy. But then we keep hearing about Mavericks being declared a total loss by the insurance company after a passing dog farts on the back bumper and bends the frame. All it takes is one moron who's looking at their phone instead of seeing your brake lights.

We're living in an era of disposable cars only now the store is always out of them.

I agree completely with you about the disposable car idea. I have told several people that very thing recently. Most don’t get it of course.

The old thinking of a damaged vehicle getting fixed or replaced by insurance is a quaint, but ignorant, idea.

Normalcy bias is a fascinating thing to observe, tragic, but fascinating nonetheless.

People who don’t get “It’s a brave new world” probably never will at this point.

What? Me worry? Is the response to an initial purchase, not about repairing or keeping the darn thing running.

I doubt the Maverick is the only vehicle insurance companies are totaling for the almost minor damage. I haven’t seen figures yet but I‘m guessing they total almost everything now, especially if there is any unibody damage.

Repair bills went up 20% this year. Parts are hard, if not impossible to get in a timely manner. Labor is thin.

The only bright spot for me is that I am starting with a new vehicle instead of trusting that a high mileage used vehicle is going to keep on keep’in on without issues.

 

[Bertram]

With the news of a possible strike happening, how do you think it will affect Maverick production? While I'm not going to pretend I understand how much pull UAW has in Mexico, I sort of think that there will be a bit of pressure to support the striking workers?

Worked for Ford for 32 years. Ford has not been on strike since September of 1976. UAW will either target GM or Crysler. GM is always the likely target. GM and the UAW have been at each others throat for years. Ford has always tried to get along with the UAW and it has been to their advantage over the years. No one wins after a strike.

 

[Reconditioner]

My perception of unions is that many of the workers believe they work for the union and forget who pays them. It is sad there is no longer any loyalty between management and workers! Unions protect feather bedders and management pays exorbitant salaries to the big shots. Many unions are responsible for jobs being shipped to other countries; Mexico, China etc. This is the 2020's not the early 1900s!

Looks like a 2 way street, huh?

 

[40caliber]

Let em strike, overpaid as it is. Cake jobs that don't require much Intelligence .
I own 10'000 shares of Ford

The UAW's top wage is $32.32 per hour after two 3% wage increases since 2019. The union's proposal would bring that to $47.14, nearing the $49 per hour average top rate recently achieved in a tentative agreement by the International Brotherhood of Teamsters with United Parcel Service Inc.

 

[Grumpa]

Looks like a 2 way street, huh?

Yeah! Both going the wrong way!

 

[ejgroth2620]

With the news of a possible strike happening, how do you think it will affect Maverick production? While I'm not going to pretend I understand how much pull UAW has in Mexico, I sort of think that there will be a bit of pressure to support the striking workers?

UAW is another union that should be broken. They add $2,000+ to the price of a new vehicle due to legacy costs, and the only real beneficiaries are the union bosses. US auto manufacturers are near bankruptcy, and Ford just took a $5 Billion loan from the government to stay afloat. Manufacturers are struggling trying to build mandated EV's that not many people want. Worst of all, these demands just force manufacturers to move plants offshore when they can. Finally, one must ask - are the union thugs working with the Global-Fascists to deliberately destroy the US auto industry? As we know, these aspiring tyrants and elites want everyone walking or biking to work and home.

 

[krg]

I was a union member for 30 years and a shop steward, Hermosillo will probably honor the striking workers. When other union shops in my area were on strike we would honor their strike by informing the company that we would be honoring their union by shutting down our plant for Only 1 day in solidarity with the workers. However what you have to worry about is outside vendors like Ups which are unionized workers in my state they will not cross the line to make deliveries, so any unionized employee will not cross the picket line.

no way will Hermosillo workers walk off, slow down or let a uaw strike affect production….as stated US parts plants will have an effect on production…

 

[JohnHartshorn]

I do support unions. However in the 70s I retrofitted a machine with servo controlled ball scews removing the hydraulic slides on that machine. This was at Ford in Yipsilanti MI. First we had to get their guard guy to remove the guards on the machine. Something I could do in 10 minutes, took half the day. Then was told their electrician had to do the work. He showed up we told him what had to be done. He said ok then we didn't see him for 3 days. He did none of the work. But he had to get the credit for it. First time I realized the dark side of the games that were played

My brother worked as a welder at a plant that built GM frames. If the light bulb at his station went out, the entire line stopped waiting for an electrician to come replace the light bulb. Not exactly something that requires an electricians skill set. Unions once served a real purpose. They are just driving companies to move production overseas these days.

 

[krg]

Ford will throw a couple grand signing bonus at the workers instead of a hourly raise like they've been doing for a couple decades.
UAW gave Ford the 2 tier wage system during the great recession to help and now wants to eliminate it, pretty big issue. They also gave up indirect labor jobs like house keeping to outside contractors.
$21M, that's just over $10,000.00 per hour, cha-ching.

they contracted out indirect labor jobs because they do a better job and at a lesser rate…..

 

[JohnHartshorn]

I'd feel the same if it was more sturdy. But then we keep hearing about Mavericks being declared a total loss by the insurance company after a passing dog farts on the back bumper and bends the frame. All it takes is one moron who's looking at their phone instead of seeing your brake lights.

We're living in an era of disposable cars only now the store is always out of them.

It's not just automobiles. My 18 year old dryer died a couple days ago. It could easily be fixed with a new circuit board. Problem is, the board is no longer made. The dryer looks like it just came off the showroom floor, but is headed to the scrapyard for lack of a replacement part. I expect the the replacement dryer (same manufacturer, same tier level) to last 5-6 years max.

 

[2lbgill]

My perception of unions is that many of the workers believe they work for the union and forget who pays them. It is sad there is no longer any loyalty between management and workers! Unions protect feather bedders and management pays exorbitant salaries to the big shots. Many unions are responsible for jobs being shipped to other countries; Mexico, China etc. This is the 2020's not the early 1900s!

Where do you think akll your holidays, pd vacations, ins. etc. all come from ? the goodness of employers hearts? lol ......... Still wet behind the ears.

 

[fossil]

they contracted out indirect labor jobs because they do a better job and at a lesser rate…..

outside contractors was a UAW concession no matter how you try to spin it

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