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Being part of 1199 (SEIU) union. I am all for workers, however being in the largest union in the US. Union's really do not care about workers, nor do corporations. However that being said many union hospital worker are lazy and milk the system. It is a mixed bag, unions are definitely a money laundering operation. The top brass always sells members dreams and only one living those dreams are the top brass.

Our union threatened to strike late last year and that would've shut down NYC's hospitals instantly. They asked for 23% raise over 3 years, to our surprise they agreed to 18% raise. UAW workers definitely deserve raises. Ford used inflation as excuse to raise prices of all the cars, which is slap in the face to workers not getting raises. We dealt with covid insanity and hospitals raked in hundreds of millions, grants & reimbursements. Then claimed no money for any raises until strike was announced. Hope UAW agree at last minute. Hopefully this strike does not last long as I have a maverick built on 8/25/23. Are the transport companies ford use also union?
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My perception of unions is that many of the workers believe they work for the union and forget who pays them. It is sad there is no longer any loyalty between management and workers! Unions protect feather bedders and management pays exorbitant salaries to the big shots. Many unions are responsible for jobs being shipped to other countries; Mexico, China etc. This is the 2020's not the early 1900s!
I don't work for a union and I see some ugly things that unions do, but.... I work for a company that has union workers and their presence helps encourage the company to provide better benefits and compensation to it's non-union workers also. Enough that it is a clear difference in work/life balance compared to many other companies I've worked for in the 2000's.

I think more unions in this country might lead to better work life balance here, but like any institution the longer they exist the more corrupt and inefficient they can become. Just because it's 2000's not 1900's doesn't mean all labor issues are solved, but it could mean that those unions need to be retooled from the ground up to operate on behalf of the 2000's workers.
 

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They want to work a 32hr week and get paid for 40. I hope they strike permanently!
 

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Not concerned, but fascinated. I can't wait to grab some popcorn come September. The UAW has sent OEMs into bankruptcy once. They're currently under federal monitoring after the most recent round of leadership corruption convictions. Can they bankrupt the US auto industry yet again? Is the UAW gonna bargain wisely, or will they cut off their nose to spite their face? History suggests the latter, but we're all hoping for the former.
 

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Hopefully they don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs!
 

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well, my better half makes the cvt transmissions, and she said they are hand to mouth...so if a strike happens, Mexico or no Mexico, no production pdq.
 

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WOW, how stupid is that? Imagine designing a production line that was vulnerable to one blown bulb. Plant engineer needed to be fired.
Has nothing to do with the line design. Union rules. Only an electrician can touch anything to do with electricity. It was something anyone could do (unscrew burnt out lightbulb, screw in new lightbulb). It was under the guise of employment security. Didn't even really need to be done, as there was plenty of light, but you know, rules are rules.
 

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Didn't even really need to be done, as there was plenty of light, but you know, rules are rules.
plenty of light but some how there is a rule that a blown bulb requires production to be shut down?

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The auto companies need to increase the use of robots to the max. Right now it's a negotiated contract item keeping employees that are not needed. With an increase in automation auto companies cold probably eliminate about 70% of the headcount.
Remember it's not the responsibility of auto companies to make sure someone has a job but to assemble a product for public consumption.
 
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The auto companies need to increase the use of robots to the max. Right now it's a negotiated contract item keeping employees that are not needed. With an increase in automation auto companies cold probably eliminate about 70% of the headcount.
Remember it's not the responsibility of auto companies to make sure someone has a job but to assemble a product for public consumption.
Correct, eliminate all workers, white collar with AI and blue collar with robots.
Can't quite figure out who's going to be left buying product though.
 

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Correct, eliminate all workers, white collar with AI and blue collar with robots.
Can't quite figure out who's going to be left buying product though.
Someone (white collar) has to program the robots. Someone (white collar) has to design and test new parts. AI has come a long way. But not quite where you described it.
The asian plants are already about 80% automated. It's only the dinosaur unions getting in the way of 21st century.
 

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Someone (white collar) has to program the robots. Someone (white collar) has to design and test new parts. AI has come a long way. But not quite where you described it.
The asian plants are already about 80% automated. It's only the dinosaur unions getting in the way of 21st century.
Everything you've described is being done by AI now. those white collar automation jobs are toast, design, testing all done through simulation. All that's left is for the blue man crew to hammer out the wrinkles to put it to work. Sorry, enjoy the Fa sun
 

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Someone (white collar) has to program the robots. Someone (white collar) has to design and test new parts. AI has come a long way. But not quite where you described it.
The asian plants are already about 80% automated. It's only the dinosaur unions getting in the way of 21st century.
Well there are white collar unions as well that include engineers and programmers, maybe not yet at Ford. A friend who works at Google in Austin tells me there's a lot of support for the union there. A corporation will always try to minimize labor costs in order to increase return to investors. By the same token employees will always push back when they are being used. After all, how many many mansions, yachts, and space ships do the executives really need?
 

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Everything you've described is being done by AI now. those white collar automation jobs are toast, design, testing all done through simulation. All that's left is for the blue man crew to hammer out the wrinkles to put it to work. Sorry, enjoy the Fa sun
AI is pretty far along but not as you have described. The union brings nothing to the table. They only take. Someone has invested, designed and started a process. Now someone wants to jump in and take a hunk of the pie, Go start your own business.
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