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[Watchman]

A little while back the Administrator posted a list of the Members who's orders were scheduled, built and delivered. I remember a post that stated roughly 7% of the members fell into one of those categories out of close to 4,500 members (didn't check it but no reason to doubt it). A little time has passed so the numbers have changed a bit but the result is pretty much the same. In retrospect, the members on this form represent a relatively small amount of the total orders made with Ford for the Maverick. The numbers from that Order List suggest we're probably around 10% (at best) based on what I see. So, I/we've heard all kinds of order numbers and only Ford knows what the real ORDER numbers are. I read a recent article that the Author predicted Ford would SELL around 80,000 units this year. Well, if I'm right that seems to be WAY OFF!

A week or so ago I scrolled through that Order List and jotted down some dates, numbers and VIN numbers. A couple of disturbing facts on the list revealed Ford has already scheduled the build of well over 51,000 trucks (not including recent scheduling). The proof is in the VIN numbers. The fact is the last six digits of the VIN are Sequential Production Numbers starting at A00001. The lowest VIN number with a scheduled production date was A01021 and the highest VIN with a scheduled production date was A51437. This means the day I scrolled through that list Ford had already scheduled a minimum of 51,437 units. The chances that the truck on this forum that was ordered on 1-14-2023 and scheduled for production on 3-07-023 being the highest VIN on the Ford's schedule is ZERO. This means the scheduled number is much higher than 51,437. Before any of you think a member just typed that VIN number in there by mistake, there are several others in different state with VIN numbers in the 50,000+- range.

What this means is Ford has a much bigger Order number than we are aware of and they are not going to tell us anytime soon. I am not verse in manipulating the spread sheet but it would be nice to see it in different orders. I wish it was also sorted by "Order dates", Scheduled dates, and VIN numbers separately. We could get a much better idea as to what Ford is doing with our orders. If we're only 7% of the selection process out of the 10% who ordered the Maverick, things are very discouraging.

And finally, for every part used to build those Mavericks with those November, December and January order dates on that list are parts they could use to build trucks ordered much much earlier -- regardless of allocations. These are "Special Favor" Mavericks -- most likely the owner/buyer knows nothing about it. According to my uncle, a retired Ford engineer, this goes on all the time. The difference now is this behavior is more easily exposed through forms like this one and social media.

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[FirstOnRaceDay]

A little while back the Administrator posted a list of the Members who's orders were scheduled, built and delivered. I remember a post that stated roughly 7% of the members fell into one of those categories out of close to 4,500 members (didn't check it but no reason to doubt it). A little time has passed so the numbers have changed a bit but the result is pretty much the same. In retrospect, the members on this form represent a relatively small amount of the total orders made with Ford for the Maverick. The numbers from that Order List suggest we're probably around 10% (at best) based on what I see. So, I/we've heard all kinds of order numbers and only Ford knows what the real ORDER numbers are. I read a recent article that the Author predicted Ford would SELL around 80,000 units this year. Well, if I'm right that seems to be WAY OFF!

A week or so ago I scrolled through that Order List and jotted down some dates, numbers and VIN numbers. A couple of disturbing facts on the list revealed Ford has already scheduled the build of well over 51,000 trucks (not including recent scheduling). The proof is in the VIN numbers. The fact is the last six digits of the VIN are Sequential Production Numbers starting at A00001. The lowest VIN number with a scheduled production date was A01021 and the highest VIN with a scheduled production date was A51437. This means the day I scrolled through that list Ford had already scheduled a minimum of 51,437 units. The chances that the truck on this forum that was ordered on 1-14-2023 and scheduled for production on 3-07-023 being the highest VIN on the Ford's schedule is ZERO. This means the scheduled number is much higher than 51,437. Before any of you think a member just typed that VIN number in there by mistake, there are several others in different state with VIN numbers in the 50,000+- range.

What this means is Ford has a much bigger Order number than we are aware of and they are not going to tell us anytime soon. I am not verse in manipulating the spread sheet but it would be nice to see it in different orders. I wish it was also sorted by "Order dates", Scheduled dates, and VIN numbers separately. We could get a much better idea as to what Ford is doing with our orders. If we're only 7% of the selection process out of the 10% who ordered the Maverick, things are very discouraging.

And finally, for every part used to build those Mavericks with those November, December and January order dates on that list are parts they could use to build trucks ordered much much earlier -- regardless of allocations. These are "Special Favor" Mavericks -- most likely the owner/buyer knows nothing about it. According to my uncle, a retired Ford engineer, this goes on all the time. The difference now is this behavior is more easily exposed through forms like this one and social media.

few things to consider
1 80,000 units sounds right. There averaging 6k units a month. So thats 72k.

2 at a 70% reservation to order rate. The last article i saw was there were roughly 120,000 reservations. So likely 84,000 orders.

3 Ford has already built 26k mavericks.

So if your saying they are at vin 50,000
That’s only 24k units. Or Aprils list.
And vins COULD be out of order due to parts issues.

so i fail to see what your concerns are?

 

[Big_T]

Can't go by VIN because I believe it's been determined that the VIN'S also include Bronco Sport models, which are built at the same plant.

 

[FirstOnRaceDay]

Can't go by VIN because I believe it's been determined that the VIN'S also include Bronco Sport models, which are built at the same plant.

There it is. So 26k mavericks this far. And ~30k BS. So thats 56k boom.

 

[The Weatherman]

What Big_T said. ^

 

[Stimpy433]

CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT!!!

 

[Thrillhouse]

 

[Mymaverick2021]

few things to consider
1 80,000 units sounds right. There averaging 6k units a month. So thats 72k.

2 at a 70% reservation to order rate. The last article i saw was there were roughly 120,000 reservations. So likely 84,000 orders.

3 Ford has already built 26k mavericks.

So if your saying they are at vin 50,000
That’s only 24k units. Or Aprils list.
And vins COULD be out of order due to parts issues.

so i fail to see what your concerns are?

Well that would make sense as my last vin#s are A37306 and my build date is 2/28/22

 

[Vongreg]

So you are saying my truck was the first scheduled? At least on here

 

[Watchman]

few things to consider
1 80,000 units sounds right. There averaging 6k units a month. So thats 72k.

2 at a 70% reservation to order rate. The last article i saw was there were roughly 120,000 reservations. So likely 84,000 orders.

3 Ford has already built 26k mavericks.

So if your saying they are at vin 50,000
That’s only 24k units. Or Aprils list.
And vins COULD be out of order due to parts issues.

so i fail to see what your concerns are?

If in fact the Bronco Sport units are included in VIN sequence then that would explain some of it, even though it makes no sense. It would also be something that Ford has changed since my uncle worked at Fords other Mexico plant and several others in the USA for decades. I consulted my uncle about this and you say it was determined the Sport VIN numbers were determined to be in the totals. Who determined that because yes my uncle could be wrong but to his defense, the 2022 Sport VIN numbers are "DXXXXX". ALL the VIN numbers on the "Maverick List" are "AXXXXX".

What I am say in my post is the numbers aren't adding up. Even using your 24k number of maverick -- at 7% we should have almost 1,700 members with a build date or a truck? Not even close.

As for VIN numbers being out of order I am told by more people than my uncle that Ford doesn't give VIN numbers to a build without setting aside the parts for that build.

I'm looking for clarity not an argument. Believe me, nobody is hoping everything your saying is as you say more than me. My concerns are that we are not being told everything we deserve to know. They know exactly how many Maverick orders they have, what's the big secret. We all know they have their hands full with things they can't control but IMO they aren't handling the things they can very well.

 

[Tone]

Is there some reason the daily order rate chart isn't ordered properly by date?

 

[IwannaMav]

Could Canadian orders account for the higher number

And I seen on here some where that someone bought a Maverick in Mexico. So would those South of the border trucks share vin numbers with American bound Mavericks.

 

[FX4M0]

Can we make that orders chart sortable somehow?

 

[Maverstang]

No conspiracy here… no secrets either.

Ford publicly stated the plant planned capacity for MY22 was around 80k Maverick units, 60% EB/40% hybrid. When bona fide received orders (not reservations) approached the capacity, ordering was suspended (Nov for hybrids, Jan for EB). Now they will simply build out the received orders (although the option and commodity mix might cause a few to roll over into MY23 at the end of MY22 production).

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