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Ford execs say they made a mistake when they replaced human engineers with AI

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I really do like AI, in a limited capacity, as an alternative to Google or Bing or any search engine. The AI cuts through all the paid search links and it does the dirty work, actually giving a useful answer to the search query.
I like www.perplexity.ai, but there are many other free services, that are independent and don't "feed the beast."
😁😁 I would like to see AI say something like "Per Glen...... The Duck Waddles..." so we could believe or not believe. 🤗
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Ford screwed the pooch !
I could’ve told em that for free !
 

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I expect all these sneers to turn to sheer horror and shock by 2030.

Look, you can chest thump, howl at the moon, claim that you are superior to any machine, or attack the messenger. The future doesn't care. It's gonna happen and you can adapt or be left behind.

AI is a steamroller. You are an ant. Go ahead, yell and shake your fist at the steamroller, Mr. Ant. Good luck with that.
AI is a fancy chatbot with a token system for retaining data in memory. It frequently hallucinates data it has no reference for. It also requires massive resources to run.

Go ahead, keep pouring billions into that steamroller, I'm sure it will compete in F1 any day now!
I love how you think companies don’t pay to rank higher in AI search results, as if that changed from the old fashion versions.


Companies aren’t spending billions on AI for nothing, the return will be the ability to dump millions of humans. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Taking over no, replacing as many human workers as possible, yes on all counts.
Remind me, how many billions were poured into Crypto and NFTs a few years back? How about EV investment? Remember when Hydrogen was the next big thing?

Just because you pour billions into something does not make it valuable. "Theory of labor" doesnt work in a system where you must make profit. AI can take care of repetitive simple tasks, but it is far from replacing humans.

The vast majority of the companies that have been laying off people for "AI" are in fact just reducing headcount from Covid overhiring, mainly focused in Marketing, HR, and email jockeys. The headcounts of these companies speaks the truth.
 

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I expect all these sneers to turn to sheer horror and shock by 2030.

Look, you can chest thump, howl at the moon, claim that you are superior to any machine, or attack the messenger. The future doesn't care. It's gonna happen and you can adapt or be left behind.

AI is a steamroller. You are an ant. Go ahead, yell and shake your fist at the steamroller, Mr. Ant. Good luck with that.
AI is no steamroller, it’s a useful tool that is useless without humans.
I worked in healthcare for 30 years. AI is doing some cool things like helping radiologists to dig deeper to save time. It might, for instance, see something on a CT scan that requires much more effort and time. It can then flag the radiologist to take a look. BTW, there is a huge shortage of radiologists and they have to read hundreds of scans a day. In the end though, it’s the human that makes the call as it should be.
Many complained jumped the gun and thought it was goi g to save them billions. They were wrong and Ford is just one who is correctly admitting it made a mistake. Now they can say as it for what it is best at, a human assistant.
 
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I love how you think companies don’t pay to rank higher in AI search results, as if that changed from the old fashion versions.
Perplexity does NOT use paid advertising.to formulate its content. That's one reason why it's 1000% better than ChatGPT, or Grok or any of the others.
 

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Perplexity does NOT use paid advertising.to formulate its content. That's one reason why it's 1000% better than ChatGPT, or Grok or any of the others.
But it does collect your data, track you and have security vulnerabilities. No thanks.
 

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Interesting read.

Ford execs say they made a mistake when they replaced human engineers with AI
Ford admits AI couldn't replace experienced engineers, rehiring veterans to improve quality and cut recall costs.

https://www.neowin.net/news/ford-ex...e-when-they-replaced-human-engineers-with-ai/
yeah humans said the same thing when computers started coming out 'they'll never replace humans'. While they of course haven't replaced all of them they for sure killed off many, many millions of jobs.
 

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The company's VP of vehicle hardware engineering, Charles Poon said that leaders overlooked the deep experience of veterans who survived many product cycles. Poon admitted that simply replacing them with AI was a huge mistake, and that while AI is "a fantastic tool," it remains "only as good as the information you use to train it."
Think he's related to John?
Ford Maverick Ford execs say they made a mistake when they replaced human engineers with AI 1782671823944-3o
 

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Ai is much cheaper and more efficient than importing software engineers.
 
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AI is a fancy chatbot with a token system for retaining data in memory. It frequently hallucinates data it has no reference for. It also requires massive resources to run.

Go ahead, keep pouring billions into that steamroller, I'm sure it will compete in F1 any day now!

Remind me, how many billions were poured into Crypto and NFTs a few years back? How about EV investment? Remember when Hydrogen was the next big thing?

Just because you pour billions into something does not make it valuable. "Theory of labor" doesnt work in a system where you must make profit. AI can take care of repetitive simple tasks, but it is far from replacing humans.

The vast majority of the companies that have been laying off people for "AI" are in fact just reducing headcount from Covid overhiring, mainly focused in Marketing, HR, and email jockeys. The headcounts of these companies speaks the truth.
That's today, the question is where will AI be in 5-10 years, if companies continue to put billions in? The limit will come when investors/shareholders say, no more, and not before that. Many CEO's of large companies have openly said they want to replace as many workers with AI as possible. Many tech companies for example are forcing programmers to log everything they do with AI, to train it to replace them. If it was just low paying jobs with no skill required I don't think you'd see as much push back. These are good paying jobs that create a lot of middle class lives. Delete too many of those types of jobs and you have some big economic problems.
 

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Think of AI today being a model T soon being replaced by a model A. Current AI being run on a commodore 64! 🤗........
 

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Ai is much cheaper and more efficient than importing software engineers.
It may seem cheaper but it is not more efficient. If everything goes perfectly it “seems” efficient. When problems arise…..not so much.
 

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Ai is much cheaper and more efficient than importing software engineers.
My son-in-law has been working for a contractor with 40+ programmers reviewing and correcting crises calls on systems with overseas programmers all on soon to be rewritten all those years COBOL CODE!!!! I personally quit programming in 1980 because I was stressed out writing assembler routines to scan compiled cobol code and replace portions with more efficiently executing instructions.
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