Ford execs say they made a mistake when they replaced human engineers with AI

[A112358]

Interesting read.

Ford execs say they made a mistake when they replaced human engineers with AI
Ford admits AI couldn't replace experienced engineers, rehiring veterans to improve quality and cut recall costs.

https://www.neowin.net/news/ford-ex...e-when-they-replaced-human-engineers-with-ai/

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[commadorebob]

I've been seeing this story a lot. Companies are backtracking on AI because they realized that humans were actually cheaper than the tokens needed to replace them. My company's clients are all pushing back on AI, arguing that the RFP requires human involvement.

 

[icegradner]

AI is garbage, a huge waste of money and electricity, who didn’t see that coming?

 

[commadorebob]

AI is garbage, a huge waste of money and electricity, who didn’t see that coming?

AI can serve a purpose and is extremely useful if used correctly. I just think too many companies went all-in on it without really understanding how to use it properly.

 

[A112358]

I really do like AI, in a limited capacity, as an alternative to Google or Bing or any search engine. The AI cuts through all the paid search links and it does the dirty work, actually giving a useful answer to the search query.
I like www.perplexity.ai, but there are many other free services, that are independent and don't "feed the beast."

 

[Cancunbadlands]

AI ain't gonna take over ever

 

[commadorebob]

I really do like AI, in a limited capacity, as an alternative to Google or Bing or any search engine. The AI cuts through all the paid search links and it does the dirty work, actually giving a useful answer to the search query.
I like www.perplexity.ai, but there are many other free services.

Agree. Asking AI to summarize a large PDF file is great. I've also been using it to proofread my papers for want of anyone I know willing to do it for me. But you can't simply ask AI to "design me a new Ford truck" and expect anything good out of it. AI is trained on what is. I can ask it, "What colors did the 1974 Mustang II come in?" and it'll give me a decent answer. It is not good at innovating what could be.

At the end of the day, AI is good at recognizing patterns and could replace some mindless, repetitive administrative tasks. There are always going to be some jobs that require a human to lay eyeballs on it. It's why I'm encouraging my daughter, who is about to start an accounting degree, to focus on the auditing side of things. The whole point of an audit is for a human to physically look at the records.

 

[tpollauf]

As a recently retired engineer (mechanical) and 40+ years in the HVACR field industry, AI has "limited" uses in both of those fields. It's great for some areas but not for all.

 

[A112358]

Agree. Asking AI to summarize a large PDF file is great. I've also been using it to proofread my papers for want of anyone I know willing to do it for me. But you can't simply ask AI to "design me a new Ford truck" and expect anything good out of it. AI is trained on what is. I can ask it, "What colors did the 1974 Mustang II come in?" and it'll give me a decent answer. It is not good at innovating what could be.

At the end of the day, AI is good at recognizing patterns and could replace some mindless, repetitive administrative tasks. There are always going to be some jobs that require a human to lay eyeballs on it. It's why I'm encouraging my daughter, who is about to start an accounting degree, to focus on the auditing side of things. The whole point of an audit is for a human to physically look at the records.

Agree 100%. I worked for 15 years as an auditor before diverting into the nuts and bolts IT world (systems design, testing, technical writing,, training, etc.). There are really two kinds of audits, AI can do a great job of checking all the numbers and compliance with the rules and regulations.
But there is much more to auditing than that. Human eyes and brains are essential for the other kind of audit, where you use your instincts and experience to find things that AI would just not notice. Follow your nose to sniff out the fraud, corruption and irregularities.

 

[converseguy]

I really do like AI, in a limited capacity, as an alternative to Google or Bing or any search engine. The AI cuts through all the paid search links and it does the dirty work, actually giving a useful answer to the search query.
I like www.perplexity.ai, but there are many other free services, that are independent and don't "feed the beast."

I too use Perplexity daily. I got one year of the Pro version free via having a Samsung phone. That year is up in July. I will probably let it expire and see what the differences are in my use case.

 

[GenMaster]

AI can serve a purpose and is extremely useful if used correctly. I just think too many companies went all-in on it without really understanding how to use it properly.

As someone who's been in I.T. since 1983, AI's whole purpose was to help humans, not replace them. This is corporate greed. Nothing more.

 

[A112358]

I too use Perplexity daily. I got one year of the Pro version free via having a Samsung phone. That year is up in July. I will probably let it expire and see what the differences are in my use case.

I use the free version. It does everything I ask of it. I can't see what more the paid Pro version would do.

 

[Steve Wolf]

There are opportunities to exploit ai's behaviors. I am not talking about hacking. I am talking about knowing that a company is going to use it for a task, knowing that ai will push that task no more than what history provides as an average. I am saying that if that company is going to use ai, they give away their result.

 

[icegradner]

I really do like AI, in a limited capacity, as an alternative to Google or Bing or any search engine. The AI cuts through all the paid search links and it does the dirty work, actually giving a useful answer to the search query.
I like www.perplexity.ai, but there are many other free services, that are independent and don't "feed the beast."

I love how you think companies don’t pay to rank higher in AI search results, as if that changed from the old fashion versions.

AI ain't gonna take over ever

Companies aren’t spending billions on AI for nothing, the return will be the ability to dump millions of humans. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Taking over no, replacing as many human workers as possible, yes on all counts.

 

[Scott Asheville]

I expect all these sneers to turn to sheer horror and shock by 2030.

Look, you can chest thump, howl at the moon, claim that you are superior to any machine, or attack the messenger. The future doesn't care. It's gonna happen and you can adapt or be left behind.

AI is a steamroller. You are an ant. Go ahead, yell and shake your fist at the steamroller, Mr. Ant. Good luck with that.

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