For those of you without hybrid experience

[SgtLip]

Do really really do 55 on the freeway?

I do, but only if the speed limit drops to 55.

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[Fish Chris]

I was under the impression it was 40 highway.

I keep meaning to say this, because people keep bringing it up... Yes, trucks are not near so aerodynamic, and Yes, trucks are not geared for the very best mileage.... Yes, of course.... But they have already taken these things into account, and still said it could get 40mpg's in town.

It's not like.... It can get 40mpg.... Oh but the areodynamics and the gearing.... Okay, so it can get 36 mpg.... Oh but the areodynamics and the gearing.... Okay, so it can get 32 mpg..... Oh but the areodynamics And the gearing.... Okay 28 mpg.....

Common guys, don't you see my point ???

 

[es7129]

Fwiw, my wife’s Tuscon Hybrid Blue is listed at 38/38mpg split and at only 1500 miles the city economy is far better then the highway.
Around town she’s 38-42 and 33 on the highway. I’ve driven on backroads without traffic or stoplights and have hit 50mpg over a 15mile stretch at 40-50mph.
Once the Hyundai is over 55mph it’s very rarely in EV mode and running 90% off the gas engine. Once she’s broken in I’m expecting the highway figures to increase.
I won’t be shocked if our Mavericks struggle a bit on the highway at first.

 

[Fish Chris]

Fwiw, my wife’s Tuscon Hybrid Blue is listed at 38/38mpg split and at only 1500 miles the city economy is far better then the highway.
Around town she’s 38-42 and 33 on the highway. I’ve driven on backroads without traffic or stoplights and have hit 50mpg over a 15mile stretch at 40-50mph.
Once the Hyundai is over 55mph it’s very rarely in EV mode and running 90% off the gas engine. Once she’s broken in I’m expecting the highway figures to increase.
I won’t be shocked if our Mavericks struggle a bit on the highway at first.

Those Tuscon hybrids are freaking nice ! I'm envious !

 

[es7129]

Those Tuscon hybrids are freaking nice ! I'm envious !

Had Hyundai offered the Santa Cruz with the hybrid powertrain I likely would’ve spent the money and purchased it over the Maverick. The NA base engine in the SC is a lifeless turd and considerably more expensive than the Maverick. I can’t think of a better bang for the buck then our trucks.

 

[mikey44]

Well, have never owned/driven a hybrid, but I don't intend to drive my new XLT hybrid any different than my current daily driver, a 2020 Escape SEL (3-cylinder turbo). Have no idea what kind of mileage it gets, just fill it up when the gas guage gets to 1/4 and go about my business. Runs just fine for another month or so, then fill it up again! 80% of driving during the past year has been in town, with only 5k miles on car. If the Maverick gets 40, or whatever, that's fine. I'll just fill it up when the guage reads 1/4!

 

[flyjum]

The Escape gets 40 combined EPA with some drivers hitting 50mpg tank averages. It depends a lot on weather with colder weather hurting MPG significantly same with very hot weather and running the AC non stop. I expect we see some 44 mpg average. Vehicle weights are very similar both being around 3600lbs

The 37 combined is almost double what most crew cab trucks are getting right now.

 

[Zotman]

Lest ye forget (from Ford literature):
" Targets achieved with premium fuel per SAE J1349 standard."
I think I also read in the Owners Manual that while not required, premium fuel results in highest MPGs. Should be interesting when real world reporting begins arriving, but I fully expect the difference in $$$ 'twixt regular and premium fuel won't be justified by the difference in mileage.

 

[mamboman777]

I keep meaning to say this, because people keep bringing it up... Yes, trucks are not near so aerodynamic, and Yes, trucks are not geared for the very best mileage.... Yes, of course.... But they have already taken these things into account, and still said it could get 40mpg's in town.

It's not like.... It can get 40mpg.... Oh but the areodynamics and the gearing.... Okay, so it can get 36 mpg.... Oh but the areodynamics and the gearing.... Okay, so it can get 32 mpg..... Oh but the areodynamics And the gearing.... Okay 28 mpg.....

Common guys, don't you see my point ???

Absolutely! I'm just waiting on official EPA ratings and some first hand experience. The only numbers I've seen are "targets."

 

[Darnon]

Lest ye forget (from Ford literature):
" Targets achieved with premium fuel per SAE J1349 standard."
I think I also read in the Owners Manual that while not required, premium fuel results in highest MPGs. Should be interesting when real world reporting begins arriving, but I fully expect the difference in $$$ 'twixt regular and premium fuel won't be justified by the difference in mileage.

That's for the power output of the EcoBoost. Nothing to do with the hybrid.

 

[Zotman]

Thanks for that correction, though some C-Max owners were reporting slightly better mileage with premium...and even better with pure gasoline (no alcohol).

 

[mamboman777]

Thanks for that correction, though some C-Max owners were reporting slightly better mileage with premium...and even better with pure gasoline (no alcohol).

Great point! I don't think octane makes any difference in performance or economy, UNLESS, the engine has a way to modify combustion accordingly. (The turbo might)

What absolutely does make a difference is % ethanol. Gasoline has a higher energy density than ethanol. I've experienced that first hand. E85 is cheaper! But the mileage lost is not worth it. The only and best time to use E85 is when returning rental vehicle, because I don't care about mileage.

That being said, could some owners experienced better gas mileage because it was premium? I doubt it. Could they have experienced better gas mileage because the premium had a lower ethanol mix? Absolutely.

In my area, I know if one gas station that pumps ethanol free gas and they cost an entire dollar more per gallon. Not worth it IMO. I'm just gonna use Quick Trip 87...

 

[Zotman]

Well, while the love affair lasts with our new trucks, it might be worthwhile to stick with top tier gas.

 

[vap0rtranz]

Great point! I don't think octane makes any difference in performance or economy, UNLESS, the engine has a way to modify combustion accordingly. [...] In my area, I know if one gas station that pumps ethanol free gas and they cost an entire dollar more per gallon. Not worth it IMO. I'm just gonna use Quick Trip 87...

Oh dear lord! it's the octane thread all over again!

Run your back-of-the-napkin #s. Even if premium is $1 more than regular, if I were to pump premium into the Hybrid, then I still come out spending LESS than the EcoBoost on regular. For my #s, I assume a 35MPG for Hybrid (a low estimate IMO) and 25MPH for the Ecoboost (a high estimate IMO based on these drivers' "need" power, aka. they press hard on the accelerator). Is there the ethanol factor? and the power #s factor? Sure but with a 10MPG gap the premium octane's premium cost doesn't beat the MPG savings. And that's a really important point.

The OP came across a bit harsh IMO but MPG gaps cannot be overstated. They're the single biggest way to save money. Conventional gas drivers will talk for days about a big MPG blip but don't tell us context -- it's stretch of flat highway w/ 0 wind on a 60F spring day cruising at 55MPH -- when _anyone's_ MPGs will beat EPA ratings. Unless you're driving a Geo Metro to work, like my brother-in-law who leaves his F250 at home, it's smarter to just ignore these MPG blips.

 

[mamboman777]

Oh dear lord! it's the octane thread all over again!

Run your back-of-the-napkin #s. Even if premium is $1 more than regular, if I were to pump premium into the Hybrid, then I still come out spending LESS than the EcoBoost on regular. For my #s, I assume a 35MPG for Hybrid (a low estimate IMO) and 25MPH for the Ecoboost (a high estimate IMO based on these drivers' "need" power, aka. they press hard on the accelerator). Is there the ethanol factor? and the power #s factor? Sure but with a 10MPG gap the premium octane's premium cost doesn't beat the MPG savings. And that's a really important point.

The OP came across a bit harsh IMO but MPG gaps cannot be overstated. They're the single biggest way to save money. Conventional gas drivers will talk for days about a big MPG blip but don't tell us context -- it's stretch of flat highway w/ 0 wind on a 60F spring day cruising at 55MPH -- when _anyone's_ MPGs will beat EPA ratings. Unless you're driving a Geo Metro to work, like my brother-in-law who leaves his F250 at home, it's smarter to just ignore these MPG blips.

Well said!

Also, I am sorry that my post came across as harsh and thank you for telling me so. I didn't intend it that way.

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