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[RideSolo]

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I've never connected to the old Maverick and especially not the bullhorns logo. In fact I had to ignore the guy that finds new people / new threads and offers the MTC sticker to them.

I can really agree w/ that. The first time I saw one of these little trucks I was down in Mississippi for the winter. I saw one pulled into a driveway and thought, "Well look at that, that's a kind of a cute little thing. What's that say on the back? Maverick? Are you kidding? Maverick? Well at least they didn't name it Pinto!"

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[Cherokee]

I hate to tell you this, but moving that ~50 pound battery to the trunk did just about jack squat. 50 pounds is 1.5% of the curb weight of a 3300lb 1972 Camaro. I supposed you gained a slight amount of traction, but it didn't do much of anything for F/R weight balance.

Our stop watches and lap times told us differently. I was expecting someone to dispute this. But then again you seem to know nothing about the spring drops effect with that extra fifty pounds over the rear diff.
And it seems the mechanics I came up with had more knowledge than myself, or you.
Proven by trial and error.
We did stuff like super heating engine blocks and burying them in the Florida sugar sand for a year, to harden them. I watched guys spend hours moving a single piston rod bearing by hand to seat it right before installing it.
But again I’m sure someone will call it BS.
It’s common behavior among internet warriors.
Tuning the cars of the day for track fun or the back roads was always done best by listening to the older mechanics.
I moved my battery back and dropped the rear spring mount because so many guys did this with good results.
I could only feel the difference when I had the car out on the edge.
Peace ::XD

 

[Tbone289]

Our stop watches and lap times told us differently. I was expecting someone to dispute this. But then again you seem to know nothing about the spring drops effect with that extra fifty pounds over the rear diff.

Read my comment again. I said absolutely nothing about your spring drop, because I agree that would have noticeable affect.

As for the 1.5% change in weight distribution from your battery having great affect, I guess the laws of physics stopped just inside the interior of that Camaro.

 

[Cherokee]

Read my comment again. I said absolutely nothing about your spring drop, because I agree that would have noticeable affect.

As for the 1.5% change in weight distribution from your battery having great affect, I guess the laws of physics stopped just inside the interior of that Camaro.

The battery helped set the springs deeper in their natural progressive action. Cheaper than changing springs.
The two changes worked together. Like I said we listened to the more experienced people.

Ever hear of using toilet paper for an oil filter ? Inside the oil filters gutted can ?
Or why that was done ?
That was another crazy thing the flat trackers got around to.

‘Iguess the laws of physics stopped just inside the interior of that Camaro.’
Nice Insult, not too bad. You can hold your head high.
Now if I can just remember that one I’ll try and use it one day. :’P

 

[Tbone289]

Ever hear of using toilet paper for an oil filter ? Inside the oil filters gutted can ?
Or why that was done ?
That was another crazy thing the flat trackers got around to.

Sure, and I know what a Frantz oil filter is too. But I'm not really sure why that's relevant. I'm sure there are more old tricks forgotten than passed along in many cases. In some cases, yes, they were crazy and a few were good and worth passing along.

 

[FischAutoTechGarten]

I've never connected to the old Maverick and especially not the bullhorns logo. In fact I had to ignore the guy that finds new people / new threads and offers the MTC sticker to them.

same here... glad I'm not the only cruel bastard here... he's on my list of 91 or so too...

original Maverick feels like the spiritual predecessor to the Mustang II and for that, I cannot love it...

 

[Cherokee]

Sure, and I know what a Frantz oil filter is too. But I'm not really sure why that's relevant. I'm sure there are more old tricks forgotten than passed along in many cases. In some cases, yes, they were crazy and a few were good and worth passing along.

Frantz oil filter,
I did not know it was called that :XD

 

[Meeka]

Frantz oil filter,
I did not know it was called that :XD

He’s right, there was a filter called a Frantz, not to be mistaken for Fram. Not sure if it still exist. I

 

[dochawk]

The battery helped set the springs deeper in their natural progressive action.

A couple/few years ago, I read through pages of a thread about vapor lock on classic cars.

[for those unfamiliar, in the days before electric fuel pumps, on hot days the gasoline could boil in the fuel lines, creating vapor bubbles, leading to the engine not running]

Anyway, someone mentioned that the old "trick" was to put wooden clothes pin on the fuel lines when this happened.

It went on for pages and pages, as I scratched my head, thinking of the laws of thermodynamics, heat transfer, and so forth.

And then, after pages and pages, someone mentioned that you kept the wooden clothespins in a jar of water until needed . . .

so it had nothing to do with the wooden clothespins themselves; they were just a way of delivering water that could boil off and absorb heat!

So many of the "odd" tricks were really about something else . . .

 

[CD_SM]

I still miss the old cars.
Nothing to figure out,
Stick a key in the ignition,
Drive away.
I don’t recall one single recall.
Ever.
I changed the oil for most every car on the block, washed and waxed them.
I made more money doing that and mowing a few yards than the paper boy ever did.

Yeah, they did have more character, and some of them were fun to drive. And simple is generally good.
BUT the exhaust smelled awful and made entire cities orange.
The real reason I don't drive an older car is safety though. Several of the Maverick crashes reported here that MTC members walked away from would likely have been fatal, and certainly involved major injuries in an OG Maverick (or Courier). Just not a risk I want to take.

 

[Kenv24]

I had my brother's '72 Comet as a hand me down for my first car to drive in 82. The Mercury version. Had the 302 V8. Hauled azzzz. It wasn't the Ford puke green...but the Mercury vomit yellow. Friends called it the "Vomit" I'll get a pic from the photo album and post it tomorrow. Fun times for sure.

 

[Fcnrwy]

The one thing I do not miss from these older versions is the amount of play in the steering. Constantly moving the steering wheel to keep the car on a straight line . . . driving was exhausting. No feel for the road. I felt like I had very little say so as to where the car was going.

A here people thought, in the movies. Actors were "see-sawing" the steering wheel on purpose...

Jerry

 

[Fcnrwy]

Our stop watches and lap times told us differently. I was expecting someone to dispute this. But then again you seem to know nothing about the spring drops effect with that extra fifty pounds over the rear diff.
And it seems the mechanics I came up with had more knowledge than myself, or you.
Proven by trial and error.
We did stuff like super heating engine blocks and burying them in the Florida sugar sand for a year, to harden them. I watched guys spend hours moving a single piston rod bearing by hand to seat it right before installing it.
But again I’m sure someone will call it BS.
It’s common behavior among internet warriors.
Tuning the cars of the day for track fun or the back roads was always done best by listening to the older mechanics.
I moved my battery back and dropped the rear spring mount because so many guys did this with good results.
I could only feel the difference when I had the car out on the edge.
Peace ::XD

I remember, guys (my Dad included ). Just Tuning by Sound...

Jerry

 

[Fcnrwy]

Yeah, they did have more character, and some of them were fun to drive. And simple is generally good.
BUT the exhaust smelled awful and made entire cities orange.
The real reason I don't drive an older car is safety though. Several of the Maverick crashes reported here that MTC members walked away from would likely have been fatal, and certainly involved major injuries in an OG Maverick (or Courier). Just not a risk I want to take.

At the time, noone cared..

Jerry

 

[Vickram]

Moving that ~50 pound battery to the trunk did just about jack squat. 50 pounds is 1.5% of the curb weight of a 3300lb 1972 Camaro. I supposed you gained a slight amount of traction from extra sprung weight over the rear axle, but it didn't do much of anything for F/R weight balance.

Coming in at the end of this post and not reading all the other comments .
I just want to say , moving the battery has a differential of 100 pounds . Not sure if it changes 1.5% or not . Just sitting here ( IN DEARBORN MI> ) waiting for the snow to reach a decent level so I can go test my 2023 mav. It's supposed to snow for the next 24 or so hours . We.ll see .

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