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I don't get to drive much during the week. Most of my driving duties get stacked up for the weekend. I live out in rural farm country, 2 lane highways in the Ozarks with 35-55mph posted limits. Based on everything I had watched or read here on the forum lead me to believe that my typical commute on this sort of road and distances I drive are ideally suited to the hybrid. It is not disappointing.

This is the first weekend of driving it with my normal local errands, and shopping. The average weekend is between 70-100 miles with one or more weekends during a month that are up to 200 mile weekends for my routine stuff.

With the slow average speeds LOTS of hills, and curves to get to the nearby towns for my shopping. Then a few miles in town as I make my loop to my normal stops. Then back home on the same highways. On these roads if they post reduced speed sign for a curve you had better pay attention! LOL

I am still on the tank of fuel the dealer put in it. 200+ miles and the range remaining is still right at 490ish. It is getting over 50mpg on this route it would appear. It is looking like a 700 mile tank is possible with the hot temps, summer time, and slower driving speeds and in town driving. Granted I am driving for efficiency right now to see just what it is capable of, but the road conditions and driving appear to ideally fit the way the Maverick likes to run. It is over 40% running on battery from the looks of it. First weekend with it to do my normal routine and it was a short miles weekend.

I am heading out on a road trip this week and taking the Maverick. Looking forward to seeing how it does. I am a little bugged that I will be on the road and not able to do my first break in miles oil change when I normally would, but I will get it scheduled for as soon as I get back from my trip.

The hybrid working very well and I am happy so far. I think the moral of the story is. If you want better MPG then slow down! Tighten up the loose nut between the seat and the go pedal! ROFL
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I'm about to pull the trigger on ordering a Lariat and I'm trying to figure out whether the Hybrid makes financial sense. Not only are they harder to get but they're obviously more expensive. I only drive about 10,000 a year. Anyone have any observations about how I can figure the math out on paper? i.e., whether the extra cost of the hybrid is worth it?
 

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Well..I ended up figuring it out, lol, but thought I would share my math for anyone trying to figure out the same thing. I used 26 as my MPG for non-hybrid and 38 for my hybrid MPG. I also used $3.00 a gallon for gas, because that's what it has reliably been where I live in MD, and 10,000 miles per year.

Non-hybrid - I'll need 385 gallons at a cost of $1,155
Hybrid - I'll need 263 gallons at a cost of $789

The price difference between a non-hybrid and a hybrid right now is $1,670. So using those numbers, it will take me about 4.5 years to make up for the additional cost of the Hybrid. I rarely keep a vehicle more than 4 years, so I think I just answered my own question.

Does that math seem reasonable to you guys?
 

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I'm about to pull the trigger on ordering a Lariat and I'm trying to figure out whether the Hybrid makes financial sense. Not only are they harder to get but they're obviously more expensive. I only drive about 10,000 a year. Anyone have any observations about how I can figure the math out on paper? i.e., whether the extra cost of the hybrid is worth it?
The Hybrid, It’s worth it in the urban environment no doubt but I wanted and therefore talked myself into thinking I needed Ecoboost power. I’m glad I did.

My 2.0L Turbo feels like V-8 power. I’m very happy.
 
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I am heading out on a road trip this week and taking the Maverick. Looking forward to seeing how it does. I am a little bugged that I will be on the road and not able to do my first break in miles oil change when I normally would, but I will get it scheduled for as soon as I get back from my trip.
Don't worry too much about the 1st oil change, the gas engine is only doing 60% of the miles so you can stretch it a bit
 

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Well..I ended up figuring it out, lol, but thought I would share my math for anyone trying to figure out the same thing. I used 26 as my MPG for non-hybrid and 38 for my hybrid MPG. I also used $3.00 a gallon for gas, because that's what it has reliably been where I live in MD, and 10,000 miles per year.

Non-hybrid - I'll need 385 gallons at a cost of $1,155
Hybrid - I'll need 263 gallons at a cost of $789

The price difference between a non-hybrid and a hybrid right now is $1,670. So using those numbers, it will take me about 4.5 years to make up for the additional cost of the Hybrid. I rarely keep a vehicle more than 4 years, so I think I just answered my own question.

Does that math seem reasonable to you guys?
Seems reasonable. On your calculations, did you figure the hybrid retaining a higher percentage of its original cost? I'm sure this is the case, but I don't know what that number is or if is a very great amount.
 

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I didn’t actually account for that because I don’t know how to. I also don’t know if maintenance in out years is actually more on the hybrid. But good point. One other factor is that hybrid Lariats with the 4K tow package are almost impossible to find right now, while non hybrids are everywhere. That means I can get a better deal there. Also, I have a trade in allowance right now of about $31,000 on my Honda, but if I order a hybrid and it takes 3 months or more to get, that value would and probably will drop some.
 

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Great report. I don;t have the hybrid but was curious to see what the Maverick was going to do on a long trip. The end of June we drove 300 miles to visit family, lots of city driving while there for 2 days and then return via some 2 lane back roads and interstate. Her's the total trip MPG with my EB. I would think you will do better with the hybrid.
TotalTripMPG.JPG
That is very good mileage for an EB. I’ve only managed to get over 500 miles once in mine! We just did a 2000 mile road trip up to VA and back in my Wife’s Outlander PHEV and only got around 30 mpg.
 

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Well..I ended up figuring it out, lol, but thought I would share my math for anyone trying to figure out the same thing. I used 26 as my MPG for non-hybrid and 38 for my hybrid MPG. I also used $3.00 a gallon for gas, because that's what it has reliably been where I live in MD, and 10,000 miles per year.

Non-hybrid - I'll need 385 gallons at a cost of $1,155
Hybrid - I'll need 263 gallons at a cost of $789

The price difference between a non-hybrid and a hybrid right now is $1,670. So using those numbers, it will take me about 4.5 years to make up for the additional cost of the Hybrid. I rarely keep a vehicle more than 4 years, so I think I just answered my own question.

Does that math seem reasonable to you guys?
I think that is a very fair assessment. I’m particularly a fan of hybrids and not too much a fan of turbos. They both have their place. I like the hybrids because they don’t have the hard start of the new engines after coming to a stop at a red light. I know you can disable it each time you start a drive. The eco boost has had its share of problems, so that’s reason enough for me. I have a 2008 Prius I bought brand new. I still have it. I have a Hybrid Highlander. No problems ever on either. I’ve heard the Maverick uses the same hybrid setup, thus the reason I bought my hybrid Maverick. If you’ve driven your hybrid Maverick in sport mode, it’s quite capable. I like the torque hybrids give.
 
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Well..I ended up figuring it out, lol, but thought I would share my math for anyone trying to figure out the same thing. I used 26 as my MPG for non-hybrid and 38 for my hybrid MPG. I also used $3.00 a gallon for gas, because that's what it has reliably been where I live in MD, and 10,000 miles per year.

Non-hybrid - I'll need 385 gallons at a cost of $1,155
Hybrid - I'll need 263 gallons at a cost of $789

The price difference between a non-hybrid and a hybrid right now is $1,670. So using those numbers, it will take me about 4.5 years to make up for the additional cost of the Hybrid. I rarely keep a vehicle more than 4 years, so I think I just answered my own question.

Does that math seem reasonable to you guys?
For others doing math using your example - Include whatever your state adds for title/registration yearly to recoup for road repairs missed in gas taxes.
Could be barely anything to $200 or over, and look for news of increases to it as states realize what's happening.

But if planning to keep for 10 yrs or over - start subtracting some of the maintenance costs differences. (my own math for 10K annual was barely on positive side, due to mainly city driving except for a few yearly hwy trips, the saved maintenance for parts pushed it even better)
 

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I don't due any math, this is what I know, I don't drive much 20/25 miles a day, I had a 22 eco FX4 for 3 years and filled up every 2 weeks cost me 25/30 bucks or more never go less than 1/4 tank it has 16gal tank, I now have a 25-lariat hybrid 13gal tank same fill up every 2 weeks and always have half a tank at fill up cost me 12/13 bucks a fill up, am running about 55/60% electric with the driving am doing. What I don't understand am getting 36/42 miles a gal on short road trips 50/100 miles all highway on weekends every 2 weeks or so, local driving stop and go using the PLUSE/GLIDE been getting 32/35mpg. So am saving 10/15 bucks every fill-up, rough math about 325 saving a year in fuel and running at 55/60% electric half the Maintenace, saving about 200 there that's 500 a year savings.
Forgetting all that the Hybrid is cool and it works, I think they got all the bugs out, its not a hotrod but has plenty of power, its the future, wouldn't be Surprised if all vehicles are hybrids. To me when I see people standing around at charging stations reading books and BSing with others don't make sense. Am I wrong??
 

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I don't due any math, this is what I know, I don't drive much 20/25 miles a day, I had a 22 eco FX4 for 3 years and filled up every 2 weeks cost me 25/30 bucks or more never go less than 1/4 tank it has 16gal tank, I now have a 25-lariat hybrid 13gal tank same fill up every 2 weeks and always have half a tank at fill up cost me 12/13 bucks a fill up, am running about 55/60% electric with the driving am doing. What I don't understand am getting 36/42 miles a gal on short road trips 50/100 miles all highway on weekends every 2 weeks or so, local driving stop and go using the PLUSE/GLIDE been getting 32/35mpg. So am saving 10/15 bucks every fill-up, rough math about 325 saving a year in fuel and running at 55/60% electric half the Maintenace, saving about 200 there that's 500 a year savings.
Forgetting all that the Hybrid is cool and it works, I think they got all the bugs out, its not a hotrod but has plenty of power, its the future, wouldn't be Surprised if all vehicles are hybrids. To me when I see people standing around at charging stations reading books and BSing with others don't make sense. Am I wrong??
What I didn't mention was the 3 years I drove the 2.0 FX4 I didn't have any problems [ except the radio] and enjoyed driving it. It held its value pretty good, the Hybrid with its 10-year battery and 5-year drivetrain will hold resale value much better.
 
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I don't due any math, this is what I know, I don't drive much 20/25 miles a day, I had a 22 eco FX4 for 3 years and filled up every 2 weeks cost me 25/30 bucks or more never go less than 1/4 tank it has 16gal tank, I now have a 25-lariat hybrid 13gal tank same fill up every 2 weeks and always have half a tank at fill up cost me 12/13 bucks a fill up, am running about 55/60% electric with the driving am doing. What I don't understand am getting 36/42 miles a gal on short road trips 50/100 miles all highway on weekends every 2 weeks or so, local driving stop and go using the PLUSE/GLIDE been getting 32/35mpg. So am saving 10/15 bucks every fill-up, rough math about 325 saving a year in fuel and running at 55/60% electric half the Maintenace, saving about 200 there that's 500 a year savings.
Forgetting all that the Hybrid is cool and it works, I think they got all the bugs out, its not a hotrod but has plenty of power, its the future, wouldn't be Surprised if all vehicles are hybrids. To me when I see people standing around at charging stations reading books and BSing with others don't make sense. Am I wrong??
Coming to the Maverick from a EV background I can say that charging isn't as glamorous or interesting as social media portrays it! LOL

I think it makes more sense for the manufacturers to extend those electric miles and keep that internal combustion engine on board. PHEV/EREV and more flexible vehicles like that would be a bonus. It could/should mean a lot of trips where no engine is required at all in the future. The Maverick Hybrid seems to be a nice step in the right direction. I am liking it so far.
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