Evap Refueling Vent Valve Failing

[mrmagoo69]

Why would it be so hard to block the purge line while fuel door is open? Then opens when fuel door is closed. That is a million dollar question. Just went trough this on my 18 MKC they have known about this for a long time now.

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[Master Blaster]

Why would it be so hard to block the purge line while fuel door is open? Then opens when fuel door is closed. That is a million dollar question. Just went trough this on my 18 MKC they have known about this for a long time now.

That would not fix anything. What happens when you overfill and then close the fuel door? Aside from the filler-pipe-to-tank seal being degraded and eventually breaking down, the vent pipe will still end up clogged and the evap canister damaged.

Just stop at the first click-off and don't overfill.

 

[BlueSpec1]

303-13B Evaporative Emissions - 2.5L Duratec – Hybrid
Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System
The EVAP system consists of an EVAP leak detection control module, EVAP canister, EVAP purge valve, fuel tank, capless fuel tank filler pipe, fuel vapor vent valve (FVVV), fuel tank isolation valve (FTIV), fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor, fuel vapor hoses, intake manifold hose assembly, and the PCM.

The fuel tank side is normally sealed by the closed FTIV and the FVVV which block the flow of vapors from the fuel tank to the EVAP canister.
This system only allows fuel vapors into the EVAP canister during refueling or an excessive fuel tank pressure condition.
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During the EVAP leak check monitor, the PCM controls the EVAP leak detection control module to seal the EVAP canister from the atmospheric pressure by closing the switching valve and applying the target vacuum in the EVAP system by turning ON the vacuum pump.

Operation of the system is as follows:
• The FTP sensor monitors the fuel tank pressure and continuously transmits an input signal to the PCM.

• The FVVV is a PCM controlled valve that blocks the flow of vapors from the fuel tank to the EVAP canister.
The PCM opens the FVVV to allow fuel vapors to the EVAP canister during refueling.

• The FTIV is a PCM controlled valve that blocks the flow of vapors from the fuel tank to the EVAP canister.
The FTIV will automatically open to relieve excess pressure or vacuum if the fuel tank pressure or vacuum reaches a maximum calibrated value.

• The EVAP leak detection control module is used to seal the EVAP system from the atmosphere and apply a vacuum on the EVAP system for EVAP leak check monitoring.
A vacuum pump inside the EVAP leak detection control module applies a vacuum on EVAP system as needed during the EVAP leak check monitor.
The pressure sensor internal to the EVAP leak detection control module monitors the system during the EVAP leak check monitor.

• The EVAP purge valve is used to control the purge flow from the EVAP canister during engine running conditions.

• The EVAP canister is used on the sealed EVAP system to collect fuel vapors during refueling only.

• A valve inside the fuel tank mounted fuel vapor tube assembly prevents liquid fuel from entering the EVAP canister and the EVAP purge valve under any vehicle altitude, handling, or rollover condition.

Component Description
Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Leak Detection Control Module
The EVAP leak detection control module consists of a vacuum pump, a pressure sensor, a 0.02" reference orifice and a switching valve.
The vacuum pump is used to apply a vacuum across the reference orifice and to apply a vacuum on the EVAP system for the EVAP leak check monitor.
The 0.02" reference orifice is used to obtain a reference check for leak detection every time the EVAP monitor runs.
The pressure sensor is used to determine the vacuum level across the reference orifice and for the EVAP leak detection monitor.
The EVAP leak detection control module is vented to atmosphere through the switching valve and allows for purging during engine operation and refueling.

Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Purge Valve
The EVAP purge valve (located near the engine) is part of the enhanced EVAP system controlled by the PCM.
This valve controls the flow of vapors (purging) from the EVAP canister to the intake manifold during various engine operating modes.
The EVAP purge valve is a normally closed valve. The PCM outputs a duty cycle between 0% and 100% to control the EVAP purge valve.

Fuel Tank Isolation Valve (FTIV)
The FTIV is a PCM controlled solenoid that isolates the fuel tank from the rest of the EVAP system.
The FTIV is a normally closed valve blocking the flow of vapors from the fuel tank to the EVAP canister.
This prevents the canister from becoming saturated causing hydrocarbons (HC) to be released into the atmosphere in a situation where the engine does not run during a drive cycle.
The FTIV will automatically open to relieve excess vacuum if the fuel tank vacuum reaches a maximum mechanical relief threshold value.

Fuel Tank Pressure (FTP) Sensor
The in tank FTP sensor or the inline FTP sensor measures the fuel tank pressure.

Fuel Vapor Vent Valve (FVVV)
The FVVV is a PCM controlled solenoid that isolates the fuel tank from the rest of the EVAP system.
The PCM opens the FVVV during refueling to allow the flow of vapors from the fuel tank to the EVAP canister.
The FVVV will automatically open to relieve excess pressure if the fuel tank pressure reaches a maximum mechanical relief threshold value.

2.5L Fuel Filler to Gas Tank:

2.5L

#2 EVAP Purge Valve
Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Purge Valve
The EVAP purge valve (located near the engine) is part of the enhanced EVAP system controlled by the PCM.
Maverick 2.5L I4 Electric XLT Supercrew 2023 NZ6Z-9D289-C.


#6 Fuel Tank Isolation Valve (FTIV)
The FTIV is a PCM controlled solenoid that isolates the fuel tank from the rest of the EVAP system.

#7 Fuel Vapor Vent Valve (FVVV)
The FVVV is a PCM controlled solenoid that isolates the fuel tank from the rest of the EVAP system.

#6,7 Assembly = Part Number: NZ6Z9D665B
Maverick 2.5L I4 Electric XLT Supercrew 2023 NZ6Z-9D665-B.

 

[mrmagoo69]

That would not fix anything. What happens when you overfill and then close the fuel door? Aside from the filler-pipe-to-tank seal being degraded and eventually breaking down, the vent pipe will still end up clogged and the evap canister damaged.

Just stop at the first click-off and don't overfill.

Agree.

 

[Steve Sakumoto]

I had my check engine light come on with no other discernable performance issues. Took to the Ford dealer and they had to replace the fuel filter vapor vent/tank isolation valve assembly. $321 for part plus $230 labor + initial $99 diagnostic fee. Total was $650. The dealer felt bad since I only had 29k miles and the truck is 3.5 years old (six months outside 3 year warranty) and gave me a break on the labor charge. They triple checked and said it's not a warranty item. Unbelievable that component failed so early...

 

[BlueSpec1]

Looks like that assembly (Fuel Tank Isolation Valve/Fuel Vapor Vent Valve) connects back to the top of the gasoline tank and to the fuel filler pipe vent line.
Just before it is the Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor.

Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor and the 2 valves FTIV/FVVV (NZ6Z-9D665-B) behind it.

FTIV/FVVV 9D655 and 9D683 tube assy with Pressure Sensor.

Vapor Line from Gasoline Tank and Fuel Filler Vent line joined together at Y fitting.

View of the vent line from fuel tank and filler vent line.

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