EV Deep Dive - Ford/Toyota

[TheSEARCH]

I know for a fact you don't need a 220 volt 40 to amp plug to charge a Tesla. You can use a standard 3 prong wall outlet. I've done it several times. It's slow, but it will work. And the cable for the upgraded wall charger is not heavy at all. My elderly neighbor came over to check mine out when I got it installed and he was surprised how small and light it is.

Sure you CAN but take 40 to 50 hours doing so. LOL.

Like my 220 volt setup has 30 amp breaker meaning I could charge at 20 amp no issue BUT take 16 to 32 hours charge time. Level TWO charger rate is 40 amp 220 volt. So need 50 amp breaker setup. Slower than that you cant take advantage of the charge rate at night.

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[huunvubu]

Very interesting analysis of how Chinese EV’s are forcing Toyota & Ford to “abandon ship” and “build an ark” respectively.

Toyota is abandoning its long established dependence on JIT & CI, while Ford is building an ark to survive the upcoming controlled demolition of Ford…

It is an hour long video that most won’t watch - but those that do will gain some insights into the purpose of Ford’s EV skunkworks. With insights into the current relationship between the Ford CEO and the Ford Family - along with the impact of the Unions & their pensions and the Dealer Network too.

Thank you for posting this.

I watched the entire video and it was very informative especially why Toyota and Ford have made the drastic change and how they are trying to survive.

A lot of posters here on this thread posted their beliefs without ever watching the video.

I have stated that as an owner of a Maverick XLT Hybrid since 2021 I will place an order for the Ford 2027 EV Truck the first day the order banks open and it will replace my existing Maverick.

The more I have seen from the skunkworks videos to the cameo spy shots reinforce my decision.

In fact the cameo spy shots make it out to be what others on the forum have wanted: A Maverick EV.

 

[huunvubu]

My charging cable is no heavier than a gasoline hose, and I've known plenty of people that have ran out of gas or were late to work because they forgot they were on empty. Also, all the hits I get for the Bolt losing money are from 2023 and earlier. The shift to LFP batteries is helping to keep the Bolt affordable, and Chevy will go broke faster from selling the #3 ev in the US (Equinox starts right around 30K) than they will selling Bolts.

I"m starting to think some of the folks on this forum just don't like electric cars

Really I didn't notice !!!

 

[huunvubu]

I'm loving it so far. It's a huge upgrade in every way. Yes it's saving me money. I've spent $447 so far to go 13,000 miles. 98% charging at home. The only maintenance has been a tire rotation and that was $20. My wife and I like to go camping in it. We just lay the back seat down and put a small mattress in it. We both fit comfortably.

If you have a "Discount Tire" store near you they do tire rotation for free.

Discount Tire offers complimentary tire rotations on passenger cars and non-dually light trucks, regardless of where you purchased the tires. While the rotation is free, there is a small balancing fee (if you want that done) if your tires were not originally purchased at Discount Tire.

 

[Propane Burning Man]

Top 3 Best Selling Cars in World:

1) Tesla Model Y
2) Toyota RAV 4
3) Toyota Corolla

Definition of Mass Market vehicles are those 3….

Most people here are talking about the USA market, the biggest market. I am.
In some countries gas is $8 or $10 gallon. Nothing sells electric cars better than expensive gas.
Top 3 best selling cars in the USA:
1) Ford F series
2) Chevy Silverado
3)Toyota RAV4
Vehicles for the masses?
I keep hearing how China builds EV's the right way. Do they build a full size pickup that could get the F150 owners out of their gas V8 and into thier super duper plug in EV full size truck? The lightning was an absolute joke of a full size truck. Ford has given up on a full size plug in F150. So they dont like EV's? People need to get real here. Some of us simply understand plug in electric dont work for every application.

 

[Chops]

Most people here are talking about the USA market, the biggest market. I am.
In some countries gas is $8 or $10 gallon. Nothing sells electric cars better than expensive gas.
Top 3 best selling cars in the USA:

Best Selling Vehicles in USA 2025

Maverick #25 155,000
Tesla 3. #21. 172,000
Tesla Y. #7. 307,000

EV’s are mass market vehicle FCOL.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g...3n-MGGC_Klf1351cjfRw4dhSXGg22o4BoCD00QAvD_BwE

 

[Chops]

Most people here are talking about the USA market, the biggest market. I am.

The video posted in the OP is about China, Japan, and USA. Most people in this thread are discussing China, Japan, and the USA. Watch the video if you want to make relevant comments?

 

[BillHanna]

I use my Maverick just around town. We have solar, so I would think seriously about getting a EV Maverick if they are produced. This would fit our driving perfectly.

 

[Propane Burning Man]

Best Selling Vehicles in USA 2025

Maverick #25 155,000
Tesla 3. #21. 172,000
Tesla Y. #7. 307,000

EV’s are mass market vehicle FCOL.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g...3n-MGGC_Klf1351cjfRw4dhSXGg22o4BoCD00QAvD_BwE

7% market share sounds like a niche to me. But I stand corrected. Mass market it is.

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